When you clutter every thread in the college forum with the same tired overreactions to anyone who doesn't worship at the altar of Bridgewater  - you will get these reactions. 

 

 

 

The funny thing to me is....I didn't even say Bridgewater was bad. I just think Manziel is better, but I am not going to go around saying people are stupid and resort to name calling just because they having a different opinion than me.

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When you clutter every thread in the college forum with the same tired overreactions to anyone who doesn't worship at the altar of Bridgewater  - you will get these reactions.  And you should.  Lots of people think Manziel will be a great QB at the next level.  I don't. You don't.  Others do . Get over it. 

 

  Everyone here is entitled to their opinion.  Right now - it seems the popular opinion is that you need to take it down a notch. 

 

You come across as strangely obsessive and incapable open-minded discussion. 

Hey, have I ever compared Bridgewater to Michael Jordan???

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The funny thing to me is....I didn't even say Bridgewater was bad. I just think Manziel is better, but I am not going to go around saying people are stupid and resort to name calling just because they having a different opinion than me.

I don't know how you think Manziel is better, but to each his own

 

I wasn't calling you stupid for having a different opinion, its the fact that your comparing a 2nd round talent to a guy who was considered the best coming out of his class...

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I don't know how you think Manziel is better, but to each his own

 

I wasn't calling you stupid for having a different opinion, its the fact that your comparing a 2nd round talent to a guy who was considered the best coming out of his class...

That means it's an opinion.

 

There is no way to factually prove who is better...at least not as an NFL player yet....

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That means it's an opinion.

 

There is no way to factually prove who is better...at least not as an NFL player yet....

Consensus, Jordan was a freak coming out of North Carolina, John Elway level prospect.

 

I guess we shall see come September

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Consensus, Jordan was a freak coming out of North Carolina, John Elway level prospect.

 

 

Ok. If that were true he would have been taken #1 overall. Teams knew he would need to develop, which he did over time in to the greatest ever. But don't act like he was a John Elway level prospect. I already sent a link that showed even the GM wasn't sure what he was getting when they drafted him. The knew he would be athletically gifted, but no one saw Elway level for Jordan.....

 

You're saying that in hindsight because of how he turned out.

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Ok. If that were true he would have been taken #1 overall. Teams knew he would need to develop, which he did over time in to the greatest ever. But don't act like he was a John Elway level prospect. I already sent a link that showed even the GM wasn't sure what he was getting when they drafted him. The knew he would be athletically gift, but no one saw Elway level for Jordan.....

 

Your saying that in hindsight because of how he turned out.

Its not hindsight, its about how big men are valued in the NBA. When Durant and Oden came out in the draft there was a huge debate of who to choose.

 

The big man with the ridiculous upside

 

or the skilled sharpshooter who can score in bunches.

 

The common theory is to get the big man, he has more control of the floor offensively and certainly defensively. 

 

 

I remember him at NC, he was that good. The only thing he really lacked was a jumpshot. His athleticism allowed him to get away with that for a while

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There was never a doubt about Jordan becoming a very good NBA player

 

Its like when Elway came out, no one had doubts he was going to be a very good qb

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I remember him at NC, he was that good. The only thing he really lacked was a jumpshot. His athleticism allowed him to get away with that for a while

That's a pretty big thing for a Basketball player to be lacking. Especially a SG.....

 

If I recall, Elway as a prospect wasn't lacking in anything...except capable teammates on the college level.

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There was never a doubt about Jordan becoming a very good NBA player

 

Its like when Elway came out, no one had doubts he was going to be a very good qb

Elway was projected to be a HOF player before he was even drafted. Jordan was not....

 

Elway was projected to probably be one of the greastest if not the greastest QB to play. Jordan was not....

 

 

He was not an Elway level prospect. A comparable NBA prospect to Elway, would be Lebron James.

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That's a pretty big thing for a Basketball player to be lacking. Especially a SG.....

 

If I recall, Elway as a prospect wasn't lacking in anything...except capable teammates on the college level.

Not for Jordan, he had A+ athleticism and ability to get to the basket. He was unstoppable driving to the hoop.

 

Elway did have a great deep and intermediate ball but his short dink and dunk passes were inaccurate at times

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Elway was projected to be a HOF player before he was even drafted. Jordan was not....

 

Elway was projected to probably be one of the greastest if not the greastest QB to play. Jordan was not....

 

 

He was not an Elway level prospect. A comparable NBA prospect to Elway, would be Lebron James.

Jordan-James-Elway were all equal as a prospect. Elway was considered to become a good to great NFL qb. There was no "crowning"

 

People forget how good of a player/prospect Jordan was coming out

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Not for Jordan, he had A+ athleticism and ability to get to the basket. He was unstoppable driving to the hoop.

 

Elway did have a great deep and intermediate ball but his short dink and dunk passes were inaccurate at times

 

My point was HOF greatness was projected for Elway from the start. People knew ans said he would be one of the greatest if not THE GREATEST to ever play his position before he even stepped foot into the NFL.

 

The same was not said about Jordan. It just wasn't. People fawned over his athletic ability but that only takes you so far. There would teams legitimately concerned that his style of play would only work for so long in the NBA against NBA defenders. Which is why I compared him as a prospect to Johnny. People fawn over his playmaking ability but eventually he will need to learn to develop as a better pocket passer, which I believe he will. Much like Jordan developed a great mid range jump shot.

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Jordan-James-Elway were all equal as a prospect. Elway was considered to become a good to great NFL qb. There was no "crowning"

 

People forget how good of a player/prospect Jordan was coming out

James and Elway were on a different level as prospects than Jordan was before they each entered their respective drafts. That is why James and Elway were taken #1 overall....

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My point was HOF greatness was projected for Elway from the start. People knew ans said he would be one of the greatest if not THE GREATEST to ever play his position before he even stepped foot into the NFL.

 

The same was not said about Jordan. It just wasn't. People fawned over his athletic ability but that only takes you so far. There would teams legitimately concerned that his style of play would only work for so long in the NBA against NBA defenders. Which is why I compared him as a prospect to Johnny. People fawn over his playmaking ability but eventually he will need to learn to develop as a better pocket passer, which I believe he will. Much like Jordan developed a great mid range jump shot.

 

The only prospect I have seen in the last 10-15 who can be compared to Jordan is Cam Newton.

 

He is the only prospect who has the physical tools to match that level of play. 

 

Manziel simply doesn't have the physical tools to match that hype. 

 

If Jordan was a NFL prospect he would be a carbon clone copy of Cam actually.

 

There was never any doubts about Jordan's ability.

 

Complete opposite with Manziel. 

 

 

 

Sorry for ragging on you earlier, I know you Johnny and all but he is simply just not that level of player.

 

If he was 6'5, with a cannon for an arm and can still do everything that he does now I could see it.

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Jordan was the best shooting 2 guard in his class

 

Manziel is not even in the top 2 in his class (its a debate) but that seems to be the consensus

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I don't know that I agree with the comparisons but nice job on an original topic.

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To bad scram doesn't have a brain

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To bad scram doesn't have a brain

Is this serious???? Are you a despondent LSU fan

 

Get out of here with the hate

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Is this serious???? Are you a despondent LSU fan


Get out of here with the hate

Nah he just can't read defenses and is a thief

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