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2020 Presidental Election


(11-04-2020, 09:51 AM)JagJohn Wrote: Seeing you guys whine and moan and cling to your little conspiracies is delicious.

Give me four years to catch up with you guys.
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(This post was last modified: 11-04-2020, 10:09 AM by TheO-LineMatters.)

(11-04-2020, 01:13 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: So that dumb cow Pelosi is going to remain Speaker of the House?!?! Can she just expire already? She is satan incarnate. Four more years of her shrieking voice is going to suck.

This nation would be so much better off if Pelosi and McConnell both dropped dead. Both of them are responsible for the majority of the problems in America.
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I went to bed last night thinking Trump had won, but now I am thinking Biden has a pretty good chance. He has 224 electoral votes, and if he holds his leads in Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Maine, and Michigan, that's 47 more electoral votes, bringing him to 271.
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Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this election was tied up in court until Jan. 1. It's so close, no matter how the final votes are counted, the loser is gonna file some kind of lawsuit alleging that there was cheating. I wouldn't be surprised if we had to have a runoff! Argh!!!!!!!!!
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(11-04-2020, 10:13 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this election was tied up in court until Jan. 1. It's so close, no matter how the final votes are counted, the loser is gonna file some kind of lawsuit alleging that there was cheating. I wouldn't be surprised if we had to have a runoff! Argh!!!!!!!!!

I think one candidate benefits more from a runoff under a watchful eye than the other candidate.

As far as your Pelosi/Mitch comment, I think everyone finds common ground with term limits.
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(11-04-2020, 10:13 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this election was tied up in court until Jan. 1. It's so close, no matter how the final votes are counted, the loser is gonna file some kind of lawsuit alleging that there was cheating. I wouldn't be surprised if we had to have a runoff! Argh!!!!!!!!!

The only place I know of that is controversial is Pennsylvania, where they allow ballots to be delivered until Friday, as long as they are postmarked by election day.  But Biden can win without Pennsylvania.  

And if Biden pulls ahead in Pennsylvania before Friday, you can bet Trump will change his mind and want to count all those late ballots.
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(11-04-2020, 10:16 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(11-04-2020, 10:13 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this election was tied up in court until Jan. 1. It's so close, no matter how the final votes are counted, the loser is gonna file some kind of lawsuit alleging that there was cheating. I wouldn't be surprised if we had to have a runoff! Argh!!!!!!!!!

The only place I know of that is controversial is Pennsylvania, where they allow ballots to be delivered until Friday, as long as they are postmarked by election day.  But Biden can win without Pennsylvania.  

And if Biden pulls ahead in Pennsylvania before Friday, you can bet Trump will change his mind and want to count all those late ballots.

Michigan "found" 140K votes for Biden in the middle of the night. Let's not pretend PA is the only questionable state right now.
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(11-04-2020, 10:15 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(11-04-2020, 10:13 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this election was tied up in court until Jan. 1. It's so close, no matter how the final votes are counted, the loser is gonna file some kind of lawsuit alleging that there was cheating. I wouldn't be surprised if we had to have a runoff! Argh!!!!!!!!!

I think one candidate benefits more from a runoff under a watchful eye than the other candidate.

As far as your Pelosi/Mitch comment, I think everyone finds common ground with term limits.

There is a natural term limit we call old age.  McConnell is 78 and Pelosi is 80.  They won't be around too much longer.
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(11-04-2020, 10:12 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I went to bed last night thinking Trump had won, but now I am thinking Biden has a pretty good chance.  He has 224 electoral votes, and if he holds his leads in Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Maine, and Michigan, that's 47 more electoral votes, bringing him to 271.

I have no dog in this fight, since I hate all the candidates and voted 3rd party, but the worst possible thing is happening. This election is too close to call and no matter what happens, the losing side is gonna allege wrong doing and this thing is gonna be pure chaos! When a winner is finally declared, there will be lawsuits, violence and the divide between the two parties is gonna drift even further (which I didn't even think possible.) Things would've been so much easier if either candidate won in a landslide. Now, all Hell is about to break loose.

(11-04-2020, 10:15 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(11-04-2020, 10:13 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this election was tied up in court until Jan. 1. It's so close, no matter how the final votes are counted, the loser is gonna file some kind of lawsuit alleging that there was cheating. I wouldn't be surprised if we had to have a runoff! Argh!!!!!!!!!

I think one candidate benefits more from a runoff under a watchful eye than the other candidate.

As far as your Pelosi/Mitch comment, I think everyone finds common ground with term limits.

Amen!
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(11-04-2020, 10:18 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(11-04-2020, 10:15 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: I think one candidate benefits more from a runoff under a watchful eye than the other candidate.

As far as your Pelosi/Mitch comment, I think everyone finds common ground with term limits.

There is a natural term limit we call old age.  McConnell is 78 and Pelosi is 80.  They won't be around too much longer.

I don't know. I bet they suck the souls out of little children in order to stay alive. These two demons are gonna live forever.
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To me, one of the best scenarios is Biden winning, and the Republicans maintaining control of the Senate. We get Trump out of the White House, and the Senate keeps Biden from implementing any far-left policies.
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(11-04-2020, 10:42 AM)JackCity Wrote: https://twitter.com/Eldon_Katz/status/13...24292?s=19

Typical Democratic stance, shame people who work hard and do well for themselves. 

Maybe someday the "living wage" will put you in that bracket too.
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(11-04-2020, 10:46 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(11-04-2020, 10:42 AM)JackCity Wrote: https://twitter.com/Eldon_Katz/status/13...24292?s=19

Typical Democratic stance, shame people who work hard and do well for themselves. 

Maybe someday the "living wage" will put you in that bracket too.

I don't think they're shaming them. More so illustrating the average working class person rejected Trump wholeheartedly
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(11-04-2020, 09:08 AM)JackCity Wrote:
(11-04-2020, 08:50 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: You're not psychic. This has been being set up for months.

I can make a case for why this could be naturally occurring, but, at the same time, I have never seen such a quick shift from the odds makers. Trump had a 75% chance to win as the votes were coming in last night, then the states suspended counting and the odds instantly switched to Biden having a 68% chance to win. I know that odds will swing back and forth over the course of the evening, but the timing is so suspicious. It won't matter, though. As soon as I saw it was suspended, I knew Trump would lose. This could all be avoided if we would do voter ID and request mail-in ballots in person. Whether democrats cheated or not, and I think it's going to be impossible to prove, they are always the ones that are destabilizing and undermining our voting process.

When you understand odds makers are looking to make as much money as possible from a huge event like a presidential race and also understand how betting works + understand how live betting with so many multiples as a presidential race like America's can have huge early swings its not actually that confusing or suspicious

I am not talking about the betting odds. I'm talking about the analysts that were giving the odds. They just changed, and the only thing momentous that happened was they suspended vote counting. Normally when odds change, they were waiting on a specific county to report, then they adjusted. 

This could be solved by voter ID laws and working to make our elections more secure, but the Democrats are constantly taking the opposite position. Why? So they can blame conservatives for doubting the election results? There is no reason not to have a way of accurately keeping track of voters and getting results back quickly. Every year, some major blue county in a key swing state ends up being the last to report. Florida fixed those problems, wasn't a swing state, and Broward reported on time. Either way, this problem is going to be made to seem like it's a bunch of disgruntled Republicans, but the reality is this is a problem created by Democrats that don't want secure elections.
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(11-04-2020, 10:42 AM)JackCity Wrote: https://twitter.com/Eldon_Katz/status/13...24292?s=19

What is this chart showing?
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Apparently, between 4am and 7am, they found 138k Biden votes and 0 Trump votes.

Lol not suspicious at all.
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(11-04-2020, 10:56 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(11-04-2020, 09:08 AM)JackCity Wrote: When you understand odds makers are looking to make as much money as possible from a huge event like a presidential race and also understand how betting works + understand how live betting with so many multiples as a presidential race like America's can have huge early swings its not actually that confusing or suspicious

I am not talking about the betting odds. I'm talking about the analysts that were giving the odds. They just changed, and the only thing momentous that happened was they suspended vote counting. Normally when odds change, they were waiting on a specific county to report, then they adjusted. 

This could be solved by voter ID laws and working to make our elections more secure, but the Democrats are constantly taking the opposite position. Why? So they can blame conservatives for doubting the election results? There is no reason not to have a way of accurately keeping track of voters and getting results back quickly. Every year, some major blue county in a key swing state ends up being the last to report. Florida fixed those problems, wasn't a swing state, and Broward reported on time. Either way, this problem is going to be made to seem like it's a bunch of disgruntled Republicans, but the reality is this is a problem created by Democrats that don't want secure elections.


I think they were all fake confident so when Florida seemed terrible they crumbled with ease on past projections. 

If Republicans didn't objectively want less turnout because it means dems do worse so they make it harder for low income areas and black areas to vote there would protect be more leeway given by democrats on voter registration

(11-04-2020, 11:03 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: Apparently, between 4am and 7am, they found 138k Biden votes and 0 Trump votes.

Lol not suspicious at all.

Source?
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(11-04-2020, 10:08 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:
(11-04-2020, 09:51 AM)JagJohn Wrote: Seeing you guys whine and moan and cling to your little conspiracies is delicious.

Give me four years to catch up with you guys.

Only if you give us 8 years after watching you all complain about the Obama era (Birther of all things --- get real)
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