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How do GM's avoid a "Gabbert"? and its relation to Caldwell/2014 draft

#21

Quote:No, the top of the draft is for getting guys that are easy to evaluate as elite players. They should be pro bowl quality guys. If you're drafting a bunch of role players and wash-outs in the first round you end up where the Jaguars are.

 

The top of the first round is for drafting the most desirable guys.

 

Sure sometimes players develop from the later rounds, but the majority of elite players are taken in the first half of the draft.
 

If you don't pick a quarterback in the first round, you will never get a good one, because there is a huge dropoff in talent after the top three guys.

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#22

Quote:If you don't pick a quarterback in the first round, you will never get a good one, because there is a huge dropoff in talent after the top three guys.
 

If there's a QB worth taking in the first round then you take him. If he's not someone the GM believes in you delegate him to the later rounds.

 

Do you recall last off-season? Do you recall the "you have to draft Geno #2 overall because QB!" stuff that some people were smoking?

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#23

You don't draft based on hair and tangibles alone. I believe there's this thing known as gameday?
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#24

Dont draft an inexperienced QB with average numbers.
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#25

Keep drafting O-linemen.


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#26

Quote:Wasn't Colin Kaepernick a project quarterback? He only got the starting job because Alex Smith was concussed.

 

The Bengals drafted Carson Palmer with the idea he can spend a year learning on the bench. He did that, then needed only two years to help the Bengals win the AFC North.
 

He was the first pick of the draft.

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#27

Quote:Anybody who thinks Teddy Bridgewater has a height issue gets him mixed up with Johnny Manziel. Bridgewater is 6-2 1/2. Louisville did not lie, just rounded up to 6-3, on its player roster. Manziel is the short one. People don't know what they are talking about if they think Bridgewater is not tall enough.


Blaine Gabbert was the #10 pick. Everybody was surprised he fell that far. He was picked to spend a year learning behind David Garrard.


You know this how? Have the scouting combine measurements happened yet?
"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."
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#28

Quote:You don't draft based on hair and tangibles alone. I believe there's this thing known as gameday?
unless you're talking about Stanzi's hair

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#29

Quote:Don't draft an inexperienced QB with average numbers.
 

So you think Blaine Gabbert was inexperienced? Um, not really. I don't call a three-year starter inexperienced. And what are you calling average numbers?

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#30

Quote:You know this how? Have the scouting combine measurements happened yet?
 

Are you saying there is zero chance any article on the Internet is correct just because one of them is wrong? That is nonsense.

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#31

Quote:He was the first pick of the draft.
 

He did not have to be the first pick.

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#32

Gene saw prototypical size and a big arm, nothing else. Blaine worked out of a spread, pass happy offense and put up crap numbers. He Was never very athletic or an accurate passer on Game film. His pocket presence was always terrible.
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#33

Quote:Gene saw prototypical size and a big arm, nothing else. Blaine worked out of a spread, pass happy offense and put up crap numbers. He Was never very athletic or an accurate passer on Game film. His pocket presence was always terrible.
 

Gene also saw only two incomplete passes at Gabbert's private workout. He was extremely accurate that day.

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#34

Quote:Are you saying there is zero chance any article on the Internet is correct just because one of them is wrong? That is nonsense.


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I'm saying I would rather believe the actual measurements that will become available at the combine versus someone's speculation on the internet.


People get it wrong. A measuring stick won't.
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#35

Quote:I'm saying I would rather believe the actual measurements that will become available at the combine versus someone's speculation on the internet.


People get it wrong. A measuring stick won't.
 

Fortunately we only have to wait four days to get that measurement.

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#36

Quote:He did not have to be the first pick.
What? I Mean... huh?
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#37

Quote:Are you saying there is zero chance any article on the Internet is correct just because one of them is wrong? That is nonsense.
 

For someone that openly admits to misunderstanding certain things, you sure are an arrogant one.

 

You're the one making definitive claims about his height. Bridgewater's height may end up up shorter than 6'2.5.

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#38

Quote:Gene also saw only two incomplete passes at Gabbert's private workout. He was extremely accurate that day.
 

One does not win Championships completing passes in private workouts.

 

Regardless of how accurate one may be in "shorts."

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#39

Quote:Gene also saw only two incomplete passes at Gabbert's private workout. He was extremely accurate that day.


We've had many Jags look good on underwear practices. Watch some old cut ups of Blaine during a live game, there are a couple of things you will notice: skidish in the pocket, cannon arm but inaccurate especially on deep balls, not a game changer.
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#40

Quote:So you think Blaine Gabbert was inexperienced? Um, not really. I don't call a three-year starter inexperienced. And what are you calling average numbers?


His numbers are average.


He only played two seasons as the starter. He played in only five games his first year.
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