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Election fraud or a nothingburger?

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The link is to a video of a polling location in Anson County, NC. Watch it and tell me what you see.
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(11-13-2020, 07:32 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: Link

The link is to a video of a polling location in Anson County, NC. Watch it and tell me what you see.
Just your average friendly person helping an old person out.

There needs to be some type of aptitude test given before allowing people to vote. If you can't figure out how to vote on your own or even fill the ballot out yourself, you shouldn't be voting.

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(11-13-2020, 07:57 PM)p_rushing Wrote:
(11-13-2020, 07:32 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: Link

The link is to a video of a polling location in Anson County, NC. Watch it and tell me what you see.
Just your average friendly person helping an old person out.

There needs to be some type of aptitude test given before allowing people to vote. If you can't figure out how to vote on your own or even fill the ballot out yourself, you shouldn't be voting.

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IMO, there needs to be an aptitude test before voting, driving a car, owning pets, having kids and several other things. Americans are getting stupider by the day. Have you ever seen the movie, "Idiocracy?" That's what America is gonna look like in 20 years.
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#4

There's only one country in all of world history that ever tried to have an aptitude test for voting.
It was us.
We already did it.
Individual states in the US already tried this, with the intent of making the test hard, but letting white people have a cheat sheet or otherwise evade the test.
It fascinates me that whenever I have an idea, I get these lectures about how I need to be skeptical of how my idea would be implemented by Americans with bad intentions, but then those same people lecturing me come up with intelligence tests for voting being a good idea somehow.
Y'all either
Ignorant
or
Hypocritical and White supremacist.
I hope it's ignorance.
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(11-13-2020, 08:20 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(11-13-2020, 07:57 PM)p_rushing Wrote: Just your average friendly person helping an old person out.

There needs to be some type of aptitude test given before allowing people to vote. If you can't figure out how to vote on your own or even fill the ballot out yourself, you shouldn't be voting.

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IMO, there needs to be an aptitude test before voting, driving a car, owning pets, having kids and several other things. Americans are getting stupider by the day. Have you ever seen the movie, "Idiocracy?" That's what America is gonna look like in 20 years.

I don’t think this problem is exclusive to America
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(11-13-2020, 08:58 PM)mikesez Wrote: There's only one country in all of world history that ever tried to have an aptitude test for voting.
It was us.
We already did it.
Individual states in the US already tried this, with the intent of making the test hard, but letting white people have a cheat sheet or otherwise evade the test.
It fascinates me that whenever I have an idea, I get these lectures about how I need to be skeptical of how my idea would be implemented by Americans with bad intentions, but then those same people lecturing me come up with intelligence tests for voting being a good idea somehow.
Y'all either
Ignorant
or
Hypocritical and White supremacist.
I hope it's ignorance.

Do you not see the difference between what you posted and what they did? I gave you a hint.
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(11-13-2020, 09:14 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(11-13-2020, 08:58 PM)mikesez Wrote: There's only one country in all of world history that ever tried to have an aptitude test for voting.
It was us.
We already did it.
Individual states in the US already tried this, with the intent of making the test hard, but letting white people have a cheat sheet or otherwise evade the test.
It fascinates me that whenever I have an idea, I get these lectures about how I need to be skeptical of how my idea would be implemented by Americans with bad intentions, but then those same people lecturing me come up with intelligence tests for voting being a good idea somehow.
Y'all either
Ignorant
or
Hypocritical and White supremacist.
I hope it's ignorance.

Do you not see the difference between what you posted and what they did? I gave you a hint.

I do see the difference.  I explained the difference and why I'm still bothered by the suggestion in spite of the difference.

I'll be direct.

Say we implement an intelligence test for voting.
Do you trust your government to make that test fair for you? Fair for all of your neighbors?
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#8

How are these people being identified as "democratic operatives"?
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#9

That's fine. There are tons of potential problems with a voting test. I accept the difficulty with making a fair test and think it's a valid point. Can we drop the white supremacist schtick, though?
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(11-13-2020, 09:26 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-13-2020, 09:14 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Do you not see the difference between what you posted and what they did? I gave you a hint.

I do see the difference.  I explained the difference and why I'm still bothered by the suggestion in spite of the difference.

I'll be direct.

Say we implement an intelligence test for voting.
Do you trust your government to make that test fair for you? Fair for all of your neighbors?

Mikesez trust the government for everthing except standards on who should vote.  I have to laugh.  

On a more serious note, Jim Crowe laws were horrific, but that is not the same point.  People with no skin in the game today are voting on how much people with skin in the game should pay and that is an issue that should be addressed somehow.  It is very easy to say and vote for people that have more and are already giving more to give even more when you are contributing nothing.
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(11-13-2020, 09:45 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: How are these people being identified as "democratic operatives"?

He’s the husband of the democratic candidate.
What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???
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#12

(11-13-2020, 08:58 PM)mikesez Wrote: There's only one country in all of world history that ever tried to have an aptitude test for voting.
It was us.
We already did it.
Individual states in the US already tried this, with the intent of making the test hard, but letting white people have a cheat sheet or otherwise evade the test.
It fascinates me that whenever I have an idea, I get these lectures about how I need to be skeptical of how my idea would be implemented by Americans with bad intentions, but then those same people lecturing me come up with intelligence tests for voting being a good idea somehow.
Y'all either
Ignorant
or
Hypocritical and White supremacist.
I hope it's ignorance.
Why did you bring race into it again?

I don't want stupid people of any race voting. If you need someone to tell you when to register, where to go, how to fill out your ballot, fill out your ballot, etc you shouldn't be voting.

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(11-13-2020, 10:10 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(11-13-2020, 09:45 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: How are these people being identified as "democratic operatives"?

He’s the husband of the democratic candidate.

The man in red or the man in plaid? Who identified him? The site and video say nothing.
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(11-13-2020, 10:35 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote:
(11-13-2020, 10:10 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: He’s the husband of the democratic candidate.

The man in red or the man in plaid? Who identified him? The site and video say nothing.

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/11/13/nc-elect...stigation/

Found the story. The man is the husband of the democratic candidate for Recorder of Deeds, not the candidate for the House (what I was assuming).

Yeah, seems fishy and it sounds like it's being investigated.
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(This post was last modified: 11-13-2020, 11:22 PM by mikesez.)

(11-13-2020, 09:53 PM)copycat Wrote:
(11-13-2020, 09:26 PM)mikesez Wrote: I do see the difference.  I explained the difference and why I'm still bothered by the suggestion in spite of the difference.

I'll be direct.

Say we implement an intelligence test for voting.
Do you trust your government to make that test fair for you? Fair for all of your neighbors?

Mikesez trust the government for everthing except standards on who should vote.  I have to laugh.  

On a more serious note, Jim Crowe laws were horrific, but that is not the same point.  People with no skin in the game today are voting on how much people with skin in the game should pay and that is an issue that should be addressed somehow.  It is very easy to say and vote for people that have more and are already giving more to give even more when you are contributing nothing.

I absolutely do not trust the government for everything.
I trust that all the people who counted the votes did so with minimal errors.  I trust that all the people collecting taxes did their best with the info they had.  I trust that our soldiers are doing their jobs by the book and not rustling the locals for bribes or the contractors for kickbacks.  I have this level of trust because I know there are levels of management in each case that watch out for any hint of corruption.

In fact most of the problem I see with our government today, is that most of it no longer has these layers of accountability.  It used to be if an official or a politician was screwing things up, members of both parties would make his or her life difficult until the problem was resolved.  But now the parties close ranks for their own.  And bad stuff about a Republican will be mentioned on CNN but not talk radio. And for bad stuff about a Democrat, the reverse is true.  So now the only layer of accountability is voters who listen to both sides and are willing to change their vote year to year. And there are fewer and fewer of those.

Unless we get some reform in this country, it will be easier and easier for a President to cancel elections or prosecute his opponents (which has the same effect).  We can start by making sure a President can never fire any inspector general.  But we have a lot more work to do besides that.  Trump didn't know what he was doing and lives under the illusion that he really was loved and adored by all.  Biden probably still thinks he's living in the 1980s when we didn't have these problems, and he'll be blind to the possibilities of how a modern president can abuse power.  I get worried about whatever young, ambitious guy is coming next down the line.

(11-13-2020, 10:21 PM)p_rushing Wrote:
(11-13-2020, 08:58 PM)mikesez Wrote: There's only one country in all of world history that ever tried to have an aptitude test for voting.
It was us.
We already did it.
Individual states in the US already tried this, with the intent of making the test hard, but letting white people have a cheat sheet or otherwise evade the test.
It fascinates me that whenever I have an idea, I get these lectures about how I need to be skeptical of how my idea would be implemented by Americans with bad intentions, but then those same people lecturing me come up with intelligence tests for voting being a good idea somehow.
Y'all either
Ignorant
or
Hypocritical and White supremacist.
I hope it's ignorance.
Why did you bring race into it again?

I don't want stupid people of any race voting. If you need someone to tell you when to register, where to go, how to fill out your ballot, fill out your ballot, etc you shouldn't be voting.

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Sorry, if there was literally any other story in all of human history about intelligence tests and voting, I would have told that one.  But there's only one, and it's racist.  Truly sorry.
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I don't really think you need a test, but I'd be about that Starship Troopers model. The test is service.
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(This post was last modified: 11-14-2020, 01:59 AM by americus 2.0.)

(11-13-2020, 10:59 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote:
(11-13-2020, 10:35 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: The man in red or the man in plaid? Who identified him? The site and video say nothing.

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/11/13/nc-elect...stigation/

Found the story. The man is the husband of the democratic candidate for Recorder of Deeds, not the candidate for the House (what I was assuming).

Yeah, seems fishy and it sounds like it's being investigated.

Sorry I didn't provide more info. I just wanted people to see it as it was and make up their own minds about what they saw. Definitely fishy. In NC you cannot be escorted by anyone unless you make arrangements with the official for the venue you're voting in. Certainly not the spouse of any candidate regardless of who it is.

(11-14-2020, 12:42 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I don't really think  you need a test, but I'd be about that Starship Troopers model. The test is service.

I think we're in the minority here.
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(11-14-2020, 12:42 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I don't really think  you need a test, but I'd be about that Starship Troopers model. The test is service.

You can serve and still be a moron who needs constant help, getting through life. I just wanna see people prove that they have enough common sense that they can handle voting, driving, having kids, etc. There are just too many morons out there right now and Americans are getting dumber by the day. It was all foretold in this movie......


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(11-14-2020, 01:59 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote:
(11-13-2020, 10:59 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: https://www.wbtv.com/2020/11/13/nc-elect...stigation/

Found the story. The man is the husband of the democratic candidate for Recorder of Deeds, not the candidate for the House (what I was assuming).

Yeah, seems fishy and it sounds like it's being investigated.

Sorry I didn't provide more info. I just wanted people to see it as it was and make up their own minds about what they saw. Definitely fishy. In NC you cannot be escorted by anyone unless you make arrangements with the official for the venue you're voting in. Certainly not the spouse of any candidate regardless of who it is.

(11-14-2020, 12:42 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I don't really think  you need a test, but I'd be about that Starship Troopers model. The test is service.

I think we're in the minority here.

No worries, I just try not to assume anything without some background. The guy making the allegations should have some info on his site. 

IMO, a spouse of a candidate shouldn't really even be at a voting location like that. Keep us posted if anything comes of it.
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(11-14-2020, 02:09 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(11-14-2020, 12:42 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I don't really think  you need a test, but I'd be about that Starship Troopers model. The test is service.

You can serve and still be a moron who needs constant help, getting through life. I just wanna see people prove that they have enough common sense that they can handle voting, driving, having kids, etc. There are just too many morons out there right now and Americans are getting dumber by the day. It was all foretold in this movie......


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Better that world than the one for which you advocate.

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