I agree that bringing kids into it is very serious and 99.9% of the time not called for. 99.9% of the time it would be totally wrong to bring an officials' kids into any discussion. This has nothing to do with my character or your character.
But we're not talking about tweaking the millage rate for the schools or hiring more teachers or firing some teachers or anything like that. 
We are talking about whether half a million votes will be counted, or not.
You have to go all the way back to 1776 to find such an abuse of the democratic process on this continent.
And those British appointed governors and tax collectors that we sent home with tar and feathers were mostly smart enough to not even bring their children onto this continent.
When you come to understand that the only alternative to voting, and fairly counting all votes, is massive violence, this will make more sense. Counting votes is not another one of these political shell games that we can manipulate for partisan ends like drawing districts or choosing judges.  If you don't count the votes right, inevitably you start counting the numbers of men and of guns instead.

That woman's kids have exactly nothing to do with votes being counted fairly and everything to do with being used as political pawns and as bait for being bullied. None of us knows the real truth about what went down, only the people who were involved. Unless there are raw voice or video recordings of wrongdoing from all parties we can only take the word of what those people said happened and that's filtered by the media. Everyone involved has an agenda and I doubt the truth is part of it. 

If I was in this situation and had a kid and someone doxxed the color of their hair, never mind their name and school, hell itself couldn't contain the rage and discontent I'd bring down on that joker. And that's saying something because like I said, no maternal bone in my body, but wrong is wrong and adults have no business bringing kids into their jacked up fights.

If it is illegal under Michigan law to post on social media about the name, school, and hair color of a public official's kid, then I hope whoever did it is prosecuted.

Do you think that would solve the problem? I don't.

Do you think letting this woman get away with throwing away half a million votes would have been a better idea?

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

That woman's kids have exactly nothing to do with votes being counted fairly and everything to do with being used as political pawns and as bait for being bullied. None of us knows the real truth about what went down, only the people who were involved. Unless there are raw voice or video recordings of wrongdoing from all parties we can only take the word of what those people said happened and that's filtered by the media. Everyone involved has an agenda and I doubt the truth is part of it. 

If I was in this situation and had a kid and someone doxxed the color of their hair, never mind their name and school, hell itself couldn't contain the rage and discontent I'd bring down on that joker. And that's saying something because like I said, no maternal bone in my body, but wrong is wrong and adults have no business bringing kids into their jacked up fights.

I’m literally +1ing you right now!

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That woman's kids have exactly nothing to do with votes being counted fairly and everything to do with being used as political pawns and as bait for being bullied. None of us knows the real truth about what went down, only the people who were involved. Unless there are raw voice or video recordings of wrongdoing from all parties we can only take the word of what those people said happened and that's filtered by the media. Everyone involved has an agenda and I doubt the truth is part of it. 

If I was in this situation and had a kid and someone doxxed the color of their hair, never mind their name and school, hell itself couldn't contain the rage and discontent I'd bring down on that joker. And that's saying something because like I said, no maternal bone in my body, but wrong is wrong and adults have no business bringing kids into their jacked up fights.

If it is illegal under Michigan law to post on social media about the name, school, and hair color of a public official's kid, then I hope whoever did it is prosecuted.

Do you think that would solve the problem? I don't.

Do you think letting this woman get away with throwing away half a million votes would have been a better idea?

Something doesn’t have to be illegal for it to be seriously wrong. Sheesh. Only you would argue that is even ever somewhat okay to do this kind of thing. 

Plus you’re assuming that the people holding out on certification are wrong about there being an issue with the votes.

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

If it is illegal under Michigan law to post on social media about the name, school, and hair color of a public official's kid, then I hope whoever did it is prosecuted.

Do you think that would solve the problem? I don't.

Do you think letting this woman get away with throwing away half a million votes would have been a better idea?

Something doesn’t have to be illegal for it to be seriously wrong. Sheesh. Only you would argue that is even ever somewhat okay to do this kind of thing. 

Plus you’re assuming that the people holding out on certification are wrong about there being an issue with the votes.

What she said.

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If it is illegal under Michigan law to post on social media about the name, school, and hair color of a public official's kid, then I hope whoever did it is prosecuted.

Do you think that would solve the problem? I don't.

Do you think letting this woman get away with throwing away half a million votes would have been a better idea?

Something doesn’t have to be illegal for it to be seriously wrong. Sheesh. Only you would argue that is even ever somewhat okay to do this kind of thing. 

Plus you’re assuming that the people holding out on certification are wrong about there being an issue with the votes.

I asked two questions and got zero answers.  
Instead I got a false statement about what I'm trying to argue, and another false statement about my assumptions.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Something doesn’t have to be illegal for it to be seriously wrong. Sheesh. Only you would argue that is even ever somewhat okay to do this kind of thing. 

Plus you’re assuming that the people holding out on certification are wrong about there being an issue with the votes.

I asked two questions and got zero answers.  
Instead I got a false statement about what I'm trying to argue, and another false statement about my assumptions.

She's quite talented at doing that...

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This is a results-oriented business.  There are no trophies or titles given for "moral victories" or for "winning the draft".  Our record with DC is 37-86.  6-10 is our 2nd best season in 8 years of Caldwell leadership.  These are the FACTS.

Something doesn’t have to be illegal for it to be seriously wrong. Sheesh. Only you would argue that is even ever somewhat okay to do this kind of thing. 

Plus you’re assuming that the people holding out on certification are wrong about there being an issue with the votes.

I asked two questions and got zero answers.  
Instead I got a false statement about what I'm trying to argue, and another false statement about my assumptions.

There is nothing false about either of my statements. And you asked americus those questions, not me. There’s only two women on the board, it’s not hard to keep up with which is which.

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

I asked two questions and got zero answers.  
Instead I got a false statement about what I'm trying to argue, and another false statement about my assumptions.

There is nothing false about either of my statements. And you asked americus those questions, not me. There’s only two women on the board, it’s not hard to keep up with which is which.

I don't have you two confused at all. As you correctly acknowledge, my post and the questions in it were addressed to someone else. 
I would have no problem at all with you butting in and answering the two questions. And I'd have no problem at all with you explaining why you thought the questions were unfair, 
But you butted in and didn't even *acknowledge* the questions.
I find that a little odd.  Who taught you to socialize that way?

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There is nothing false about either of my statements. And you asked americus those questions, not me. There’s only two women on the board, it’s not hard to keep up with which is which.

I don't have you two confused at all. As you correctly acknowledge, my post and the questions in it were addressed to someone else. 
I would have no problem at all with you butting in and answering the two questions. And I'd have no problem at all with you explaining why you thought the questions were unfair, 
But you butted in and didn't even *acknowledge* the questions.
I find that a little odd.  Who taught you to socialize that way?

Butted in on a public message board? Now I’ve heard everything! And I find it really odd that you seem to think I care what you would or would not have a problem with. 

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

There is nothing false about either of my statements. And you asked americus those questions, not me. There’s only two women on the board, it’s not hard to keep up with which is which.

I don't have you two confused at all. As you correctly acknowledge, my post and the questions in it were addressed to someone else. 
I would have no problem at all with you butting in and answering the two questions. And I'd have no problem at all with you explaining why you thought the questions were unfair, 
But you butted in and didn't even *acknowledge* the questions.
I find that a little odd.  Who taught you to socialize that way?

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I don't have you two confused at all. As you correctly acknowledge, my post and the questions in it were addressed to someone else. 
I would have no problem at all with you butting in and answering the two questions. And I'd have no problem at all with you explaining why you thought the questions were unfair, 
But you butted in and didn't even *acknowledge* the questions.
I find that a little odd.  Who taught you to socialize that way?

Butted in on a public message board? Now I’ve heard everything! And I find it really odd that you seem to think I care what you would or would not have a problem with. 

Do you care what any other poster has a problem with?

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I don't have you two confused at all. As you correctly acknowledge, my post and the questions in it were addressed to someone else. 
I would have no problem at all with you butting in and answering the two questions. And I'd have no problem at all with you explaining why you thought the questions were unfair, 
But you butted in and didn't even *acknowledge* the questions.
I find that a little odd.  Who taught you to socialize that way?

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Nice try.  We're not on your riverbank anymore, Toothy.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Butted in on a public message board? Now I’ve heard everything! And I find it really odd that you seem to think I care what you would or would not have a problem with. 

Do you care what any other poster has a problem with?

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Nope. Unless someone is having a legitimate issue that falls under my Super Moddess powers, I don’t care what they have a problem with.

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

Do you care what any other poster has a problem with?

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Nope. Unless someone is having a legitimate issue that falls under my Super Moddess powers, I don’t care what they have a problem with.

That's fair at least.
But I wouldn't come here if I didn't care about the likes and dislikes of other people. Because if I'm going to tick anyone off, I want it to be on purpose.  I don't want to accidently say something most people dislike without realizing that most people dislike it.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Nope. Unless someone is having a legitimate issue that falls under my Super Moddess powers, I don’t care what they have a problem with.

That's fair at least.
But I wouldn't come here if I didn't care about the likes and dislikes of other people. Because if I'm going to tick anyone off, I want it to be on purpose.  I don't want to accidently say something most people dislike without realizing that most people dislike it.

Yah... me neither.  

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This is a results-oriented business.  There are no trophies or titles given for "moral victories" or for "winning the draft".  Our record with DC is 37-86.  6-10 is our 2nd best season in 8 years of Caldwell leadership.  These are the FACTS.

Nope. Unless someone is having a legitimate issue that falls under my Super Moddess powers, I don’t care what they have a problem with.

That's fair at least.
But I wouldn't come here if I didn't care about the likes and dislikes of other people. Because if I'm going to tick anyone off, I want it to be on purpose.  I don't want to accidently say something most people dislike without realizing that most people dislike it.

That's fair at least.
But I wouldn't come here if I didn't care about the likes and dislikes of other people. Because if I'm going to tick anyone off, I want it to be on purpose.  I don't want to accidently say something most people dislike without realizing that most people dislike it.

Yah... me neither.  

Well of course, thats the top priority of every message board troll.

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

That's fair at least.
But I wouldn't come here if I didn't care about the likes and dislikes of other people. Because if I'm going to tick anyone off, I want it to be on purpose.  I don't want to accidently say something most people dislike without realizing that most people dislike it.

Yah... me neither.  

Just because it happens a lot doesn't mean I want it to happen a lot.
Besides, this is a tough crowd.  They have a lot of dislikes I already know about.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Yah... me neither.  

Just because it happens a lot doesn't mean I want it to happen a lot.
Besides, this is a tough crowd.  They have a lot of dislikes I already know about.

If they bring back the "minus"  button, you will immediately have competition for least popular poster!  

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This is a results-oriented business.  There are no trophies or titles given for "moral victories" or for "winning the draft".  Our record with DC is 37-86.  6-10 is our 2nd best season in 8 years of Caldwell leadership.  These are the FACTS.

Just because it happens a lot doesn't mean I want it to happen a lot.
Besides, this is a tough crowd.  They have a lot of dislikes I already know about.

If they bring back the "minus"  button, you will immediately have competition for least popular poster!  

Still pretending you are not one in the same?

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Original Season Ticket Holder - Retired  1995 - 2020


At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

If they bring back the "minus"  button, you will immediately have competition for least popular poster!  

Still pretending you are not one in the same?

You're one to talk. You could be the alt of so many different people on this board.

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Just because it happens a lot doesn't mean I want it to happen a lot.
Besides, this is a tough crowd.  They have a lot of dislikes I already know about.

If they bring back the "minus"  button, you will immediately have competition for least popular poster!  

We'd have each other, though.  We'd be able to +3 each other every day while we gang up and -6 some pathetic target, and all he'd ever get to do is -3 us back.  So our score would stay the same and his would keep going down.
Now that I say it all, though, it sounds really dumb and petty.  
Can't believe anyone ever contrived to do that to anyone else.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Still pretending you are not one in the same?

You're one to talk. You could be the alt of so many different people on this board.

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If they bring back the "minus"  button, you will immediately have competition for least popular poster!  

We'd have each other, though.  We'd be able to +3 each other every day while we gang up and -6 some pathetic target, and all he'd ever get to do is -3 us back.  So our score would stay the same and his would keep going down.
Now that I say it all, though, it sounds really dumb and petty.  
Can't believe anyone ever contrived to do that to anyone else.

Poor baby, were the big old bad men mean to you?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato