I have no clue what is going to actually happen. But I also don’t have a problem with letting it happen. If you think this is how it’s going to go down, why do you think so many on your side are grumbling moaning and complaining about it happening? It isn’t about the integrity of elections, or they’d never have backed Gore fighting it in 2000, or went all Russia, Russia Russia after the last election. 

And if it really is just a big money grab for him and they have nothing, seems to me the best thing that could happen would be to let it play out then everyone can see it and then politics could go back to how it was before he showed up.

It is about the "integrity of elections".  You just don't understand what those words mean.  Gore conceded after he lost his case for extra recounts.  Hillary conceded and said Trump deserved a chance to lead regardless of if he had colluded with Russia or not. Neither of them asked state legislatures to just ignore the voters and help the Republican. This is different.

So it’s okay to spend four years claiming someone cheated and go about trying to prove it every which way possible because that has no affect on the integrity of elections.

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

It is about the "integrity of elections".  You just don't understand what those words mean.  Gore conceded after he lost his case for extra recounts.  Hillary conceded and said Trump deserved a chance to lead regardless of if he had colluded with Russia or not. Neither of them asked state legislatures to just ignore the voters and help the Republican. This is different.

So it’s okay to spend four years claiming someone cheated and go about trying to prove it every which way possible because that has no affect on the integrity of elections.

Hillary agreed that more people in PA, MI, and WI had voted for Trump.  She did not beg the state legislatures there to change or ignore that result.
When they finally impeached Trump, it wasn't to make Hillary president.  It was to make Pence President.

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So it’s okay to spend four years claiming someone cheated and go about trying to prove it every which way possible because that has no affect on the integrity of elections.

Hillary agreed that more people in PA, MI, and WI had voted for Trump.  She did not beg the state legislatures there to change or ignore that result.
When they finally impeached Trump, it wasn't to make Hillary president.  It was to make Pence President.

Cuz Hillary was the only person claiming he cheated. What is really impressive is that she was able to impeach him when not even holding any kind of public office at the time. Those crafty Clintons!

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

Hillary agreed that more people in PA, MI, and WI had voted for Trump.  She did not beg the state legislatures there to change or ignore that result.
When they finally impeached Trump, it wasn't to make Hillary president.  It was to make Pence President.

Cuz Hillary was the only person claiming he cheated. What is really impressive is that she was able to impeach him when not even holding any kind of public office at the time. Those crafty Clintons!

Fine.  Let's try this:

Every Single Democrat agreed that more people in PA, MI, and WI had voted for Trump. They did not beg the state legislatures there to change or ignore that result.
When they finally impeached Trump, it wasn't to make Any Democrat president. It was to make Pence President.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Cuz Hillary was the only person claiming he cheated. What is really impressive is that she was able to impeach him when not even holding any kind of public office at the time. Those crafty Clintons!

Fine.  Let's try this:

Every Single Democrat agreed that more people in PA, MI, and WI had voted for Trump. They did not beg the state legislatures there to change or ignore that result.
When they finally impeached Trump, it wasn't to make Any Democrat president. It was to make Pence President.

Who it made the president is besides to point. Just like the calls for unity after four years of anything but, you don’t get to claim RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA and then think we should worry about the integrity of the election now. You don’t get to have it both ways, sorry.

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

Fine.  Let's try this:

Every Single Democrat agreed that more people in PA, MI, and WI had voted for Trump. They did not beg the state legislatures there to change or ignore that result.
When they finally impeached Trump, it wasn't to make Any Democrat president. It was to make Pence President.

Who it made the president is besides to point. Just like the calls for unity after four years of anything but, you don’t get to claim RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA and then think we should worry about the integrity of the election now. You don’t get to have it both ways, sorry.

You can bring a horse to facts, but you can't make her understand.
You're smarter than this.
Some part of your personality is telling you to not engage with it, though.
The allegation that Trump colluded with Russia amounted to a campaign finance violation. Even if proven, it could not have changed the result of the 2016 election. Even if proven, it would still have been up to the House to impeach and the Senate to convict.
This is basic civics. I know you took it.
Trump today is trying to allege that he won more votes in PA, AZ, and other states. Very, very different from anything any other candidate for President has ever done since 1876

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Who it made the president is besides to point. Just like the calls for unity after four years of anything but, you don’t get to claim RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA and then think we should worry about the integrity of the election now. You don’t get to have it both ways, sorry.

You can bring a horse to facts, but you can't make her understand.
You're smarter than this.
Some part of your personality is telling you to not engage with it, though.
The allegation that Trump colluded with Russia amounted to a campaign finance violation.  Even if proven, it could not have changed the result of the 2016 election.  Even if proven, it would still have been up to the House to impeach and the Senate to convict.
This is basic civics.  I know you took it.
Trump today is trying to allege that he won more votes in PA, AZ, and other states.  Very, very different from anything any other candidate for President has ever done since 1876

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This is a results-oriented business.  There are no trophies or titles given for "moral victories" or for "winning the draft".  Our record with DC is 37-86.  6-10 is our 2nd best season in 8 years of Caldwell leadership.  These are the FACTS.

So it’s okay to spend four years claiming someone cheated and go about trying to prove it every which way possible because that has no affect on the integrity of elections.

Hillary agreed that more people in PA, MI, and WI had voted for Trump.  She did not beg the state legislatures there to change or ignore that result.
When they finally impeached Trump, it wasn't to make Hillary president.  It was to make Pence President.

She knew she didn't win and conceded early because the algorithms couldn't keep up with the Trump turn out. They thought they had it in the bag, they had no backup plan. This time there was a backup plan with mail-in votes and they all stopped counting to give enough time to manufacture those ballots.

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Hillary agreed that more people in PA, MI, and WI had voted for Trump.  She did not beg the state legislatures there to change or ignore that result.
When they finally impeached Trump, it wasn't to make Hillary president.  It was to make Pence President.

She knew she didn't win and conceded early because the algorithms couldn't keep up with the Trump turn out. They thought they had it in the bag, they had no backup plan. This time there was a backup plan with mail-in votes and they all stopped counting to give enough time to manufacture those ballots.

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QAnon logic... very strong argument!

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This is a results-oriented business.  There are no trophies or titles given for "moral victories" or for "winning the draft".  Our record with DC is 37-86.  6-10 is our 2nd best season in 8 years of Caldwell leadership.  These are the FACTS.

Who it made the president is besides to point. Just like the calls for unity after four years of anything but, you don’t get to claim RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA and then think we should worry about the integrity of the election now. You don’t get to have it both ways, sorry.

You can bring a horse to facts, but you can't make her understand.
You're smarter than this.
Some part of your personality is telling you to not engage with it, though.
The allegation that Trump colluded with Russia amounted to a campaign finance violation.  Even if proven, it could not have changed the result of the 2016 election.  Even if proven, it would still have been up to the House to impeach and the Senate to convict.
This is basic civics.  I know you took it.
Trump today is trying to allege that he won more votes in PA, AZ, and other states.  Very, very different from anything any other candidate for President has ever done since 1876

More ad hominem attacks from you...how original. 

Your argument was about election integrity, not if the president was or will be replaced. Repeated claims of colluding with a foreign government to steal an election impacted the integrity of that election, no matter what the end result turned out to be.

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

She knew she didn't win and conceded early because the algorithms couldn't keep up with the Trump turn out. They thought they had it in the bag, they had no backup plan. This time there was a backup plan with mail-in votes and they all stopped counting to give enough time to manufacture those ballots.

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QAnon logic... very strong argument!

Honestly I have no clue where to go to get q info or even who their members are.

This cheating didn't start this year. Trump knew it was happening and set up the EO. You can hide your eyes all you want, but it is being exposed.

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You can bring a horse to facts, but you can't make her understand.
You're smarter than this.
Some part of your personality is telling you to not engage with it, though.
The allegation that Trump colluded with Russia amounted to a campaign finance violation.  Even if proven, it could not have changed the result of the 2016 election.  Even if proven, it would still have been up to the House to impeach and the Senate to convict.
This is basic civics.  I know you took it.
Trump today is trying to allege that he won more votes in PA, AZ, and other states.  Very, very different from anything any other candidate for President has ever done since 1876

More ad hominem attacks from you...how original. 

Your argument was about election integrity, not if the president was or will be replaced. Repeated claims of colluding with a foreign government to steal an election impacted the integrity of that election, no matter what the end result turned out to be.

You're smart enough to know that wasn't ad hominem.  My only mention of you as a person was positive.  An ad hominem argument would have said something negative about you.

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QAnon logic... very strong argument!

Honestly I have no clue where to go to get q info or even who their members are.

This cheating didn't start this year. Trump knew it was happening and set up the EO. You can hide your eyes all you want, but it is being exposed.

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SHEEP (dfn) - a person who blindly follows an ideology or a belief that is based in faith of the preacher, rather than the content of the message

My eyes are wide open... where is your proof, Little Bo Peep?  Do you have access to Rudy's "evidence" that he's not letting anyone else see?  Including the judges in court where Trump-supported election legal cases currently have a record of 1-31?  Please open my eyes with all of your proof.

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You can bring a horse to facts, but you can't make her understand.
You're smarter than this.
Some part of your personality is telling you to not engage with it, though.
The allegation that Trump colluded with Russia amounted to a campaign finance violation.  Even if proven, it could not have changed the result of the 2016 election.  Even if proven, it would still have been up to the House to impeach and the Senate to convict.
This is basic civics.  I know you took it.
Trump today is trying to allege that he won more votes in PA, AZ, and other states.  Very, very different from anything any other candidate for President has ever done since 1876

More ad hominem attacks from you...how original. 

Your argument was about election integrity, not if the president was or will be replaced. Repeated claims of colluding with a foreign government to steal an election impacted the integrity of that election, no matter what the end result turned out to be.

Not seeing any ad hominem attack there... sorry Mod.

There are different degrees of election integrity.  There is a significant difference between claims that a campaign colluded with a foreign entity to illegally influence voters versus claims that the actual voting process was fraudulent and intentionally changed the will of the people.  You have to be able to see the difference. One is claiming unethical and illegal behavior in changing the hearts and minds of the electorate; the other is intentionally tearing down the fabric of the democratic process... with no proof.

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This is a results-oriented business.  There are no trophies or titles given for "moral victories" or for "winning the draft".  Our record with DC is 37-86.  6-10 is our 2nd best season in 8 years of Caldwell leadership.  These are the FACTS.

Honestly I have no clue where to go to get q info or even who their members are.

This cheating didn't start this year. Trump knew it was happening and set up the EO. You can hide your eyes all you want, but it is being exposed.

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SHEEP (dfn) - a person who blindly follows an ideology or a belief that is based in faith of the preacher, rather than the content of the message

My eyes are wide open... where is your proof, Little Bo Peep?  Do you have access to Rudy's "evidence" that he's not letting anyone else see?  Including the judges in court where Trump-supported election legal cases currently have a record of 1-31?  Please open my eyes with all of your proof.

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More ad hominem attacks from you...how original. 

Your argument was about election integrity, not if the president was or will be replaced. Repeated claims of colluding with a foreign government to steal an election impacted the integrity of that election, no matter what the end result turned out to be.

Not seeing any ad hominem attack there... sorry Mod.

There are different degrees of election integrity.  There is a significant difference between claims that a campaign colluded with a foreign entity to illegally influence voters versus claims that the actual voting process was fraudulent and intentionally changed the will of the people.  You have to be able to see the difference. One is claiming unethical and illegal behavior in changing the hearts and minds of the electorate; the other is intentionally tearing down the fabric of the democratic process... with no proof.

And yet, at the end of the day, they both affect the integrity of the election. I mean there’s a difference between making out with another woman, and full on sleeping with one, but I bet both would have an affect on the integrity of your marriage.

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

https://twitter.com/rossgarber/status/13...97473?s=19

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I mean there’s a difference between making out with another woman, and full on sleeping with one, but I bet both would have an affect on the integrity of your marriage.

Anyone else get mildly aroused when BB busted out wit da sexy talk?  

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"We believe in victory!"   - Gus Bradley
"I don't want to believe.  I want to know."   - Carl Sagan

That’s considered “sexy talk”?

Hmmm. Okay then.

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SHEEP (dfn) - a person who blindly follows an ideology or a belief that is based in faith of the preacher, rather than the content of the message

My eyes are wide open... where is your proof, Little Bo Peep?  Do you have access to Rudy's "evidence" that he's not letting anyone else see?  Including the judges in court where Trump-supported election legal cases currently have a record of 1-31?  Please open my eyes with all of your proof.

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Not seeing any ad hominem attack there... sorry Mod.

There are different degrees of election integrity.  There is a significant difference between claims that a campaign colluded with a foreign entity to illegally influence voters versus claims that the actual voting process was fraudulent and intentionally changed the will of the people.  You have to be able to see the difference. One is claiming unethical and illegal behavior in changing the hearts and minds of the electorate; the other is intentionally tearing down the fabric of the democratic process... with no proof.

And yet, at the end of the day, they both affect the integrity of the election. I mean there’s a difference between making out with another woman, and full on sleeping with one, but I bet both would have an affect on the integrity of your marriage.

The election is the process of figuring out who can vote, who they can vote for, where they vote, how to count the votes, and counting them.
Russia did not interfere with any of that.
The campaign is all the other stuff where the candidates do their song and dance for votes.  
Russia did interfere with that.  
To use your metaphor, yes, Trump's current path is to the integrity of marriage as sleeping with another woman.
Investigating ties between Trump's 2016 campaign and Russia was to the integrity of marriage as having lunch with a friend and the friend says, "I'm not sure, dude, she's probably not cheating on you, but it looks like she's got some shady business deals.."

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

I mean there’s a difference between making out with another woman, and full on sleeping with one, but I bet both would have an affect on the integrity of your marriage.

Anyone else get mildly aroused when BB busted out wit da sexy talk?  

It’s been a while for you, hasn’t it?

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

And yet, at the end of the day, they both affect the integrity of the election. I mean there’s a difference between making out with another woman, and full on sleeping with one, but I bet both would have an affect on the integrity of your marriage.

The election is the process of figuring out who can vote, who they can vote for, where they vote, how to count the votes, and counting them.
Russia did not interfere with any of that.
The campaign is all the other stuff where the candidates do their song and dance for votes.  
Russia did interfere with that.  
To use your metaphor, yes, Trump's current path is to the integrity of marriage as sleeping with another woman.
Investigating ties between Trump's 2016 campaign and Russia was to the integrity of marriage as having lunch with a friend and the friend says, "I'm not sure, dude, she's probably not cheating on you, but it looks like she's got some shady business deals.."

You can try to get as technical with the definition of election all you want, but we both know that for four years it’s been nothing but Russia’s interference with our ELECTION, not the Russian interference into the campaign.

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???