At the 19:38 mark, they go onto a lengthy discussion about the value of drafting an OL vs WR, particularly as it relates to Cincinnati, but you can apply a lot of what they say, whether you agree or disagree, to any team, such as for example our own.  

I already know some of you are going to say, well the difference between Cam Robinson and anyone else is so great, the need is overwhelming.  But anyway, they have a discussion.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ8T9C8ceHI

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At the 19:38 mark, they go onto a lengthy discussion about the value of drafting an OL vs WR, particularly as it relates to Cincinnati, but you can apply a lot of what they say, whether you agree or disagree, to any team, such as for example our own.  

I already know some of you are going to say, well the difference between Cam Robinson and anyone else is so great, the need is overwhelming.  But anyway, they have a discussion.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ8T9C8ceHI

Great discussion, though obviously the guy on the left has never seen Ephrain Salaam pass block.  

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At the 19:38 mark, they go onto a lengthy discussion about the value of drafting an OL vs WR, particularly as it relates to Cincinnati, but you can apply a lot of what they say, whether you agree or disagree, to any team, such as for example our own.  

I already know some of you are going to say, well the difference between Cam Robinson and anyone else is so great, the need is overwhelming.  But anyway, they have a discussion.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ8T9C8ceHI

Great discussion, though obviously the guy on the left has never seen Ephrain Salaam pass block.  

Just hearing that name gives me anxiety. A speed bump was more effective than Salaam was.

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At the 19:38 mark, they go onto a lengthy discussion about the value of drafting an OL vs WR, particularly as it relates to Cincinnati, but you can apply a lot of what they say, whether you agree or disagree, to any team, such as for example our own.  

I already know some of you are going to say, well the difference between Cam Robinson and anyone else is so great, the need is overwhelming.  But anyway, they have a discussion.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ8T9C8ceHI

Great discussion, though obviously the guy on the left has never seen Ephrain Salaam pass block.  

That is true.  But one of them does point out something I have been saying, and that is, pass protection doesn't just depend on the offensive line, it also depends on things like WRs getting open.  Adding weapons can make an offensive lineman's job much easier.

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Great discussion, though obviously the guy on the left has never seen Ephrain Salaam pass block.  

That is true.  But one of them does point out something I have been saying, and that is, pass protection doesn't just depend on the offensive line, it also depends on things like WRs getting open.  Adding weapons can make an offensive lineman's job much easier.

Agreed, but in our case, we have good WR's. They weren't the problem.

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That is true.  But one of them does point out something I have been saying, and that is, pass protection doesn't just depend on the offensive line, it also depends on things like WRs getting open.  Adding weapons can make an offensive lineman's job much easier.

Agreed, but in our case, we have good WR's. They weren't the problem.

Yes.  But in our particular case, when the team is bad enough to be 1-15, we're behind all the time so the defense knows we have to pass, and on top of that, the QB holds the ball too long.  When all that happens, pass protection is going to look pretty sucky.  

I'm just trying to figure out why Meyer and Baalke think our O-line is not as bad as a lot of fans think it is.  

It is possible.

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Agreed, but in our case, we have good WR's. They weren't the problem.

Yes.  But in our particular case, when the team is bad enough to be 1-15, we're behind all the time so the defense knows we have to pass, and on top of that, the QB holds the ball too long.  When all that happens, pass protection is going to look pretty sucky.  

I'm just trying to figure out why Meyer and Baalke think our O-line is not as bad as a lot of fans think it is.  

It is possible.

FWIW, Daniel Jeremiah agrees that our OL isn't that bad.

I sure have my doubts about how good this OL is.  Sure hope they are right.

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That is true.  But one of them does point out something I have been saying, and that is, pass protection doesn't just depend on the offensive line, it also depends on things like WRs getting open.  Adding weapons can make an offensive lineman's job much easier.

Agreed, but in our case, we have good WR's. They weren't the problem.

No they weren't.

Nevertheless, I can see a WR added to this group.  Meyer has said ge wanted to add more speed to the WR room, which, BTW makes me wonder why they signed Marvin Jones. Not that he's a bad player, just not a burner at this stage in his career.

I see 5-7 offensive players being added in this draft.  The breakdown is as follows:

1 QB-Trevor Lawrence
1 RB-Travis Etienne?
1 WR-Toney?
1 TE Friermuth/Tremble?
1 OL

and a wild card pick or 2.

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Agreed, but in our case, we have good WR's. They weren't the problem.

Yes.  But in our particular case, when the team is bad enough to be 1-15, we're behind all the time so the defense knows we have to pass, and on top of that, the QB holds the ball too long.  When all that happens, pass protection is going to look pretty sucky.  

I'm just trying to figure out why Meyer and Baalke think our O-line is not as bad as a lot of fans think it is.  

It is possible.

I don't see any need to overthink it. It is what it is. Baalke is incompetent and Meyer is uninformed. I don't think Meyer had ever even given the Jags a second thought in his entire life, until we got that #1 pick and basically held the rights to Trevor Lawrence. From there, all he has been focused on was the QB position. He said he would be bringing in coaches he was familiar with. Apparently, he didn't know any O-Line coaches who wanted the job, so he retained Warhop. Meyer, not knowing anything about our O-Line situation, is relying totally on Warhop for his information and Warhop is spoon feeding him complete B.S. in order to keep his job. 

I have no delusions that either of our offensive tackles are gonna magically become reliable starters, once we get a new QB. I've studied our O-Line more than any of our other positions and what I have seen over and over is that both Robinson and Taylor have slow feet and they are slow to get out of their stance. Speed rushers give them fits and they always have. Guys their size don't magically get quicker and the slow footwork is a big reason why they both fell to round 2 of the draft. At least Robinson is only on a 1 year deal, so when we see more of the same from him and Taylor in 2021, maybe the new coaching staff will get a clue and move on. My only concern is that the 2022 OT class may not be nearly as deep or talented as this one appears to be, but I have to accept what I cannot change. I don't have to be happy about it though.

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Yes.  But in our particular case, when the team is bad enough to be 1-15, we're behind all the time so the defense knows we have to pass, and on top of that, the QB holds the ball too long.  When all that happens, pass protection is going to look pretty sucky.  

I'm just trying to figure out why Meyer and Baalke think our O-line is not as bad as a lot of fans think it is.  

It is possible.

I don't see any need to overthink it. It is what it is. Baalke is incompetent and Meyer is uninformed. I don't think Meyer had ever even given the Jags a second thought in his entire life, until we got that #1 pick and basically held the rights to Trevor Lawrence. From there, all he has been focused on was the QB position. He said he would be bringing in coaches he was familiar with. Apparently, he didn't know any O-Line coaches who wanted the job, so he retained Warhop. Meyer, not knowing anything about our O-Line situation, is relying totally on Warhop for his information and Warhop is spoon feeding him complete B.S. in order to keep his job. 

I have no delusions that either of our offensive tackles are gonna magically become reliable starters, once we get a new QB. I've studied our O-Line more than any of our other positions and what I have seen over and over is that both Robinson and Taylor have slow feet and they are slow to get out of their stance. Speed rushers give them fits and they always have. Guys their size don't magically get quicker and the slow footwork is a big reason why they both fell to round 2 of the draft. At least Robinson is only on a 1 year deal, so when we see more of the same from him and Taylor in 2021, maybe the new coaching staff will get a clue and move on. My only concern is that the 2022 OT class may not be nearly as deep or talented as this one appears to be, but I have to accept what I cannot change. I don't have to be happy about it though.

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Which makes me wonder why you are so down on Cosmi.

If nothing else, he has quick feet, but also has good size and length.  No, he isn't the best run blocker, but all things considered, I'd rather have a T who was strong in pass protection and weak in run blocking than the alternative.

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I don't see any need to overthink it. It is what it is. Baalke is incompetent and Meyer is uninformed. I don't think Meyer had ever even given the Jags a second thought in his entire life, until we got that #1 pick and basically held the rights to Trevor Lawrence. From there, all he has been focused on was the QB position. He said he would be bringing in coaches he was familiar with. Apparently, he didn't know any O-Line coaches who wanted the job, so he retained Warhop. Meyer, not knowing anything about our O-Line situation, is relying totally on Warhop for his information and Warhop is spoon feeding him complete B.S. in order to keep his job. 

I have no delusions that either of our offensive tackles are gonna magically become reliable starters, once we get a new QB. I've studied our O-Line more than any of our other positions and what I have seen over and over is that both Robinson and Taylor have slow feet and they are slow to get out of their stance. Speed rushers give them fits and they always have. Guys their size don't magically get quicker and the slow footwork is a big reason why they both fell to round 2 of the draft. At least Robinson is only on a 1 year deal, so when we see more of the same from him and Taylor in 2021, maybe the new coaching staff will get a clue and move on. My only concern is that the 2022 OT class may not be nearly as deep or talented as this one appears to be, but I have to accept what I cannot change. I don't have to be happy about it though.

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Which makes me wonder why you are so down on Cosmi.

If nothing else, he has quick feet, but also has good size and length.  No, he isn't the best run blocker, but all things considered, I'd rather have a T who was strong in pass protection and weak in run blocking than the alternative.

I'm not down on Cosmi. I just have other OT's that I like more. I'd certainly take him over what we have now in Robinson, but I'd rather have Sewell, Slater, Darrisaw, Eichenberg, Jenkins or Brown. I just have Cosmi rated lower than some people, but this is a very top heavy and loaded class. Cosmi is still my #45 overall player, so I can't be too down on him. 

Now, if we are talking about Mayfield, I am not a fan. If we are talking RT, I believe Teven Jenkins is the standout guy, but Spencer Brown is someone that I like more and more every time I look back on his games. I see him as a superior RT who could possibly play LT, because he has such good footwork and functional strength. He is a unique blend of finesse and mauler.

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I already know some of you are going to say, well the difference between Cam Robinson and anyone else is so great, the need is overwhelming. 

Yeah that's basically what I would say. Going from the worst tackle tandem in the league to good ones is a lot better than going from an average maybe a little above average WR corps to whatever it would be if we added one of the Moore's or Marshall or Toney or whoever.

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