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1010 XL Call In Post Combine Poll

#21

Mack or trade Back


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#22

Clowney, then Bridgewater, then Watkins, then trade back.

 

In that order.


THERE IS A SKELETON INSIDE OF YOU.

 

RIGHT NOW. THIS IS NOT A JOKE.
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#23

Trading back was not an option. Rick said Mack. Jessica was swayed from Barr to Mack by Rick's enthusiasm. Frank said Watkins.
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#24
(This post was last modified: 02-26-2014, 12:28 AM by knarnn.)

Quote:Trading back was not an option. Rick said Mack. Jessica was swayed from Barr to Mack by Rick's enthusiasm. Frank said Watkins.

Typical woman.
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#25

Quote:I'd go Manziel or Mack.
This 

 

Both will be studs in the NFL

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#26

Quote:This 

 

Both will be studs in the NFL
With the amount of hype and attention on Manziel, I get the feeling he will disappoint

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#27

Quote:With the amount of hype and attention on Manziel, I get the feeling he will disappoint


Idk I was a little iffy about him also, but he seems super focused and confident. I bet Gus and Dave had a great interview with him
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#28

Quote:Idk I was a little iffy about him also, but he seems super focused and confident. I bet Gus and Dave had a great interview with him
I am not worried about that. He isn't stupid, he knows he is on a job interview.

 

Its the size, college system and speed of the NFL that ultimately dooms him

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#29

Quote:I am not worried about that. He isn't stupid, he knows he is on a job interview.


Its the size, college system and speed of the NFL that ultimately dooms him


He skipped Super Bowl festivities to stay home and workout. He seems focused and ready to fight for something.


And he's not going to be "doomed." IMO Jedd Fisch would do a great job easing Manziel in. Make him comfortable with the "easy throws" and then start to unleash him a bit. Like Seattle with Wilson. Just my opinion though, he could be super special.
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#30

Quote:He skipped Super Bowl festivities to stay home and workout. He seems focused and ready to fight for something.


And he's not going to be "doomed." IMO Jedd Fisch would do a great job easing Manziel in. Make him comfortable with the "easy throws" and then start to unleash him a bit. Like Seattle with Wilson. Just my opinion though, he could be super special.
I commend that, however it remains to be seen if he can handle that at the NFL level. The lights on him, he HAS to stay straight, would be a fool not to.

 

Wilson played like he did at Seattle because he had Marshawn Lynch and a dominant defense to hang back on.

 

There is no luxury like that here. No such thing as easy throws. There is definitely no unleashing of a 5'11, 205 qb or Fisch should be fired at the first sign of serious injury.

 

"Super Special" stuff quite frankly sounds ridiculous and a product of the hype engine.

 

The only qbs who can be truly "Super Special" are Kaep and even more so Cam Newton

 

They have the athleticism, size, strength, arm and instinctual ability to be all time greats

 

The only thing that Manziel has that is arguably elite is escape ability.

 

I am not even sold on his pocket presence, considering he had the cleanest pocket in all of CFB and would often times bail early

 

I think he has potential, but no dice for me.

 

Bridgewater has elite pocket presence, elite accuracy, and his mental game is going to be elite

 

No brainer

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#31

Quote:I commend that, however it remains to be seen if he can handle that at the NFL level. The lights on him, he HAS to stay straight, would be a fool not to.


Wilson played like he did at Seattle because he had Marshawn Lynch and a dominant defense to hang back on.


There is no luxury like that here. No such thing as easy throws. There is definitely no unleashing of a 5'11, 205 qb or Fisch should be fired at the first sign of serious injury.


"Super Special" stuff quite frankly sounds ridiculous and a product of the hype engine.


The only qbs who can be truly "Super Special" are Kaep and even more so Cam Newton


They have the athleticism, size, strength, arm and instinctual ability to be all time greats


The only thing that Manziel has that is arguably elite is escape ability.


I am not even sold on his pocket presence, considering he had the cleanest pocket in all of CFB and would often times bail early


I think he has potential, but no dice for me.


Bridgewater has elite pocket presence, elite accuracy, and his mental game is going to be elite


No brainer


Well just my opinion. He has a chance of being really really good. And btw I'm a big Bridgewater guy also. I want either Bridge Johnny Clowney or Mack
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#32

Quote:Well just my opinion. He has a chance of being really really good. And btw I'm a big Bridgewater guy also. I want either Bridge Johnny Clowney or Mack
Really good = bottom top 10

 

I actually agree, I see a poor man's steve young in Manziel

 

But his success won't come from running around, its from playing the pocket and using his legs wisely

 

He will need a couple years on the bench though, marinate properly in the NFL

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#33

I think Bridgewater could be a top 2-3 qb in the league


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#34

Quote:Really good = bottom top 10


I actually agree, I see a poor man's steve young in Manziel


But his success won't come from running around, its from playing the pocket and using his legs wisely


He will need a couple years on the bench though, marinate properly in the NFL


Kid can throw from the pocket dude. Very underrated skill he has.
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#35

Quote:Kid can throw from the pocket dude. Very underrated skill he has.
He can throw from a CLEAN pocket with WIDE open lanes

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#36

Quote:He can throw from a CLEAN pocket with WIDE open lanes


So can Teddy and jameis.
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#37

Quote:So can Teddy and jameis.
The difference:

 

teddy can make throws in messy pockets, he moves up and manipulates the pocket like a pro

 

very good at evading pressure while maneuvering the pocket

 

Winston isn't there yet though, he throws from A LOT of clean pockets

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#38

Quote:You'll get better value taking Troy Niklas in the 2nd round than wasting a 1st rounder at any point for Ebron. He drops too many. 

 

As for the Jags 1st rounder in this scenario.....gimme Manziel or trade down if possible and then select Mack/ Evans. 
 

Not sure you can trade down much further and get Mack. I could see Oakland, Atlanta or Tampa snagging him. And he's going to be a stud.

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#39

Quote:I commend that, however it remains to be seen if he can handle that at the NFL level. The lights on him, he HAS to stay straight, would be a fool not to.


Wilson played like he did at Seattle because he had Marshawn Lynch and a dominant defense to hang back on.


There is no luxury like that here. No such thing as easy throws. There is definitely no unleashing of a 5'11, 205 qb or Fisch should be fired at the first sign of serious injury.


"Super Special" stuff quite frankly sounds ridiculous and a product of the hype engine.


The only qbs who can be truly "Super Special" are Kaep and even more so Cam Newton


They have the athleticism, size, strength, arm and instinctual ability to be all time greats


The only thing that Manziel has that is arguably elite is escape ability.


I am not even sold on his pocket presence, considering he had the cleanest pocket in all of CFB and would often times bail early


I think he has potential, but no dice for me.


Bridgewater has elite pocket presence, elite accuracy, and his mental game is going to be elite


No brainer


I think you're high on Bridgewater. In a narcotic kind of way. You are describing Andrew Luck. If every scout and GM looked at Teddy and saw Luck, this would be a no brainer. I don't see that.


They say almost to a man however, that he is the most NFL ready. The most ready to come in and play. But how much do they improve once they are in the league?


I feel Johnny has a higher ceiling once he is taught to step up in the pocket more. He took off too easily in college where his rare physical gifts got him out of trouble. I feel his early career may be a little rocky (similar to Favre's), but if he can tweak his game a little to allow plays to develop before he flees the pocket, he could be a great one.
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#40

Quote:I think Bridgewater could be a top 2-3 qb in the league
 

I'm SHOCKED by that assessment from you.

Huh
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