1994 - Heath Shuler (QB) - Bust

1995 - Steve McNair (QB) - Great

1996 - Simeon Rice (DE) - Great

1997 - Shawn Springs (CB) - Very Good

1998 - Andrew Wadsworth (DE) - Bust

1999 - Alkili Smith (QB) - Bust

2000 - Chris Samuels (OT) - Great

2001 - Gerard Warren (DT) - Bust

2002 - Joey Harrington (QB) - Bust

2003 - Andre Johnson (WR) - Great

2004 - Larry Fitzgerald (WR) - Great

2005 - Braylon Edwards (WR) - Bust

2006 - Vince Young (QB) - Bust

2007 - Joe Thomas (OT) - Great

2008 - Matt Ryan (QB) - Very Good

2009 - Tyson Jackson (DE) - OK (Basically does what he is asked in that defense)

2010 - Gerald McCoy (DT) - Very Good

2011 - Marcell Dareus (DT) - Good

2012 - Trent Richardson (RB) - OK - BUT MIGHT BE TOO EARLY

2013 - Dion Jordan (De) - TOO EARLY

2014 - ???

 

7 total bust and 4 of them were QBs, which about 1/3 (success/bust ratio) on the QBs... overall not a back spot to pick from, but not as good as picking from #2 spot....

 

#2 overall pick only had Ryan Leaf(98) and Charles Rodgers(03) as bust since 1994

 

Hope our FO does a great job with that pick. IMO regardless of need just take the best Football player....not the best athlete, or QB, but the best Football player. Then pick for need after that.

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Trent Richardson is a bust. He's on a level with guys taken in the middle to late rounds.

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I am not ready to call him a bust yet, until after his 3rd year. Cleveland's FO and the entire organization looks like how Oakland use to operate, so he has one more year to show he was #3 overall worthy.

 

 

...and he may very well prove that esp with an offseason with a team like Indy and with Andrew Luck as QB....

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I am not ready to call him a bust yet, until after his 3rd year. Cleveland's FO and the entire organization looks like how Oakland use to operate, so he has one more year to show he was #3 overall worthy.

 

 

...and he may very well prove that esp with an offseason with a team like Indy and with Andrew Luck as QB....

 

What more is there to prove? He was a guy coming out that didn't have outstanding qualities, and he's a running back, the position that has the easiest production transition to the NFL and he's not had a thousand yard season yet and was benched in favor of the guys they were desperately hoping to upgrade in indianapolis.

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I've never understood the logic of this sort of thing....yet every so often you see people talk about the "history of X pick or Y pick"....unless we're talking the 1st overall pick, I don't see it being anything but a waste of time. Picks don't really correlate too much from year to year because every draft is different. 

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What more is there to prove? He was a guy coming out that didn't have outstanding qualities, and he's a running back, the position that has the easiest production transition to the NFL and he's not had a thousand yard season yet and was benched in favor of the guys they were desperately hoping to upgrade in indianapolis.

 

RB, albeit easier to transition to than others, is still something you have to get accustomed to in the NFL. Some guys like MJD, Ray Rice, AP, Shady, etc can come in and just pick up from where they left off in college....

 

Some guys come in and have great careers early but don't have long term staying power (i.e. Chris Johnson, etc)

 

Some guys it can take a few years and then they hit their stride or they go to another team and find new life (i.e. Reggie Bush, Marshawn Lynch, etc)

 

So I will give him one more year with one of the better organization in the league right now.

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I've never understood the logic of this sort of thing....yet every so often you see people talk about the "history of X pick or Y pick"....unless we're talking the 1st overall pick, I don't see it being anything but a waste of time. Picks don't really correlate too much from year to year because every draft is different.

Agreed. It's almost as silly as attempting to correlate a prospect's potential to the sound of their name.




...Welcome back, friendo.

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Just take the best Player thats all I am saying. Don't get caught up in hype because its usually what it is, esp when it can't be backed up consistently on Film. 

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Agreed. It's almost as silly as attempting to correlate a prospect's potential to the sound of their name.




...Welcome back, friendo.

Lol who would have that someone named Roethlisberger would be a great QB?!

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Way to small of a sample size to take one particular draft slot and think you can extrapolate any sort of meaningful information. You can do top 10 stats with decent legitimacy, maaaybe even top 5, but there is so much variance that taking any one draft slot is just silly.

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Lol who would have that someone named Roethlisberger would be a great QB?!

 

me

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Guess whos back.... back again...

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Way to small of a sample size to take one particular draft slot and think you can extrapolate any sort of meaningful information. You can do top 10 stats with decent legitimacy, maaaybe even top 5, but there is so much variance that taking any one draft slot is just silly.

 

Take it for what you want.  The point I take away from that list is, there's a lot of risk.   Most of those guys were consensus top 5 picks when they were taken, so even the professional scouts of the world can be wrong A LOT.  

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Take it for what you want.  The point I take away from that list is, there's a lot of risk.   Most of those guys were consensus top 5 picks when they were taken, so even the professional scouts of the world can be wrong A LOT.  

It definitely is. I am all for needs drafting but I think a lot of these clubs fell in love with what the felt they needed too much. If you had to talk yourself into making a pick, then you probably shouldn't make that pick.

 

To me its just like any other decision in life. If you have to convince yourself it is a good idea, then chances are it is probably not....

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I've never understood the logic of this sort of thing....yet every so often you see people talk about the "history of X pick or Y pick"....unless we're talking the 1st overall pick, I don't see it being anything but a waste of time. Picks don't really correlate too much from year to year because every draft is different. 

Well, from a standpoint of history it's fun to toy with.

 

For example:

 

I see McNair was taken at three. In context, that was one pick after the Jaguars took Tony Boselli.

 

What if Tom Coughlin had taken Steve at two and the Houston Oilers grabbed Boselli at three. Believe me, there were droves of fans that wanted the signature small college quarterback drafted instead of a potential All-Pro tackle.

 

Whoa, can you imagine that?

 

We had unknown at quarterback. McNair and Brunell battling it out for the starter's job? Who wins that battle?

 

Then you send Boselli to the Oilers.

 

Irv Eatman, Kevin Donnalley, Brad Hopkins, Bruce Matthews, Mark Stepnoski. Where's the baby beef gonna fit in on that Hall of Fame group?

 

Stressing the situation to make reality change is OK.

 

The Jaguars would have a small school rookie quarterback, a average expansion draft vet, and a highly groomed back-up with all the fire and drive of champions past. People forget that Brunell was coached by Steve Mariucci and Jon Gruden, two classic NFL coaches. Clearly an heir and a spare either way camp competition worked out, but not even the foundations of an offensive line capable of keeping either upright.

 

The Houston Oilers would be filthy rich in Hall of Fame offensive line talent. A year later Eddie George hits the turf. Chandler was good enough to lead the Falcons to the Super Bowl in 1998. Let's talk Oilers' dynasty.

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