Something about him screams franchise QB, also that lightning quick release is flat out impressive. 

Everything about my opinion on your thread depends on what round/pick you are suggesting the Jaguars should get him.

 

Our first pick at #3?

Sometime late in the sixth round?

 

I personally like him very much as our 'second QB' in the draft. Not sure if I'm ready to place our entire franchise on the kid's shoulder but as a 'second QB'(in the way that Khan said we may actually draft 2-quarterbacks this year), I like him.

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I want 3 players. Clowney, Bridgewater, Manziel. Jaguars have the number 3 pick. Just give me one of those 3 at 3, and I'm happy.

 

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If we draft a QB in the 1st or 2nd round, my concern is that there will be a sense of urgency in getting that guy on the field, and we'll end up in a situation where we're dealing with Gabbert 2.0.  We don't need to draft another guy only to turn him into damaged goods. 

 

Gabbert was damaged goods regardless.  Had he sat for a couple of years, he'd have still been terrible.  He's a terrible quarterback.

 

If you draft a QB in the first round, he's the day one starter.  The days of sitting a guy for a season or two are over.

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They got crushed by Oklahoma.... I guess that AJ "Elite" McCarron couldn't hang with the big boys of Oklahoma.

I think you're mis-characterizing it. McCarron did throw two picks, sure.

 

What's your point? He had a pretty good game. Showed exceptional things. Tough loss for Alabama as a team.

 

He's got nothing to hide and nothing to be ashamed of.

 

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Gabbert was damaged goods regardless. Had he sat for a couple of years, he'd have still been terrible. He's a terrible quarterback.


If you draft a QB in the first round, he's the day one starter. The days of sitting a guy for a season or two are over.

Not always. If a guy is not ready, hes not ready.


I see your point with first round guys, but I dont like guys being played simply based on draft status. The best player should play regardless. Its just a personal preference, although I know guys will play based purely on potential or draft status.

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Bill Polian projects Garoppolo as a 1st round pick, Dane Brugler of CBS Sports recently tweeted there has been 1st round talk amongst NFL circles in regards to Jimmy Garoppolo, realistically he goes somewhere in the mid to late 2nd round.

 

And the week of the draft last year, we were told Ryan Nassib was going to be a first round pick. Russ Lande had Nassib as the number one player on his board. He went in the 4th round.

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Blaine Gabbert was never good to begin with, incredibly inconsistent at Missouri and lacked the production 16 TD's 9 Ints as a junior you'd normally get from a 1st round QB. Scouts fell in love with his measurables and seemingly ignored the fact that this guy couldn't play.

yes but having seen the film and known his weakness you should never have put him under centre straight away.

He was behind a porous line and had nothing on the outside to throw too

 that was hardly an ideal situation especially when you add that he had half an offseason due to the holdout along with the step up from college to the nfl

 

the kid never really had a chance.

 

as for garropollo i love his footwork and quick release and think his arm is more than good enough to play in the nfl as his accuracy is very good.

 

his decision making is suspect and i feel he lacks the athleticism to evade pressure in the nfl. At the college level he has the speed and strength to evade people in the pocket on a 50 50 basis in the nfl with faster stronger guys hitting him he wont be able to shrug off or out run as many rushers and he does have a tendancy to get rattled by pressure.

 

I like him but wouldn't take him above the 3rd

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Everything about my opinion on your thread depends on what round/pick you are suggesting the Jaguars should get him.

 

Our first pick at #3?

Sometime late in the sixth round?

 

I personally like him very much as our 'second QB' in the draft. Not sure if I'm ready to place our entire franchise on the kid's shoulder but as a 'second QB'(in the way that Khan said we may actually draft 2-quarterbacks this year), I like him.

We're not taking two quarterbacks in this draft. If we do, that tells us we don't know how to scout quarterbacks.

 

Fifty sacks in 2012. Fifty sacks in 2013. This can not possibly be the cue for more quarterbacks.

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I think you're mis-characterizing it. McCarron did throw two picks, sure.

 

What's your point? He had a pretty good game. Showed exceptional things. Tough loss for Alabama as a team.

 

He's got nothing to hide and nothing to be ashamed of.

 

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/aj-mccar...homa-2013/

You make it seem like Bama won because of McCarron. They didn't. He managed games behind a mammoth O-line and some of the best RB's in the country. They won before him and they will win after him simply because of Saban and the program. You try and say he's like Tom Brady? How does Brady's college game compare to McCarrons? Or are you just simply saying that because McCarron won in college like Brady wins in the NFL?

 

I would much rather have Clowney and Carr/Garropolo than your Matthews and McCarron crush you got going on.

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We're not taking two quarterbacks in this draft. If we do, that tells us we don't know how to scout quarterbacks.


Fifty sacks in 2012. Fifty sacks in 2013. This can not possibly be the cue for more quarterbacks.

Sacks come as much from the quarterbacks ability to manipulate the offensive line and move as they do the line itself.


We are not investing a first round pick on an o lineman. I'm willing to bet an eleven month hiatus from the board. Heck, how about an eleven month bet, loser leaves the country?

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Ive never bought into this idea that we ruined Gabbert. I think his skills show that he never would have made it anywhere as more than a backup.


Plenty of QBs start right away in bad situations. Cam Newton is one I can think of.


The best player should play regardless of experience/age. Imo. If it takes a few weeks or years to be better than Henne, so be it.

We ruined Gabbert, but he's fixable. No doubt about it. The cause? The Econo-Jaguars system, why pay two guys to do the same job, doesn't work. We dumped the veteran quarterback and threw Gabbert to the wolves.

 

Unless the QB prospect is elite level talent he shouldn't see game time in his first season. Elite is defined as has the complete QB skills set, the highest-possible level of talent, the size and weight, superior arm strength, etc. He is expected to already know the system have experience capable of immediately making his team Super Bowl contenders.

 

Elite quarterback prospects are rare.

 

For all others (non-elite QB prospects)

 

Year one - He learns the system - Some pre-season action - clipboard as the number three 

Year two - He learns to run the plays in the system - extended pre-season action - mop up duties

Year three - he learns details of play-making, personnel and is the back-up QB - pre-season action - mop up duties - second QB

Year four - he enters the season as the viable starting quarterback - open camp competition for the starting job

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We're not taking two quarterbacks in this draft. If we do, that tells us we don't know how to scout quarterbacks.

 

2-QBs doesn't necessarily mean 2-QBs in the first 2 rounds. Surely in a QB-heavy draft like this one, there are going to be some real studs left in the 5th and 6th rounds, maybe even undrafted.

And TELL ME you wouldn't quote-unquote "waste" a 5th or 6th round pick on some of these guys who some experts are thinking may very likely may fall that low:

<a class="" href='http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/players/116169/connor-shaw'>Connor Shaw</a>

<a class="" href='http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/players/78599/aaron-murray'>Aaron Murray</a>

<a class="" href='http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/players/114387/stephen-morris'>Stephen Morris</a>

<a class="" href='http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/players/119328/jimmy-garoppolo'>Jimmy Garoppolo</a>

<a class="" href='http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/players/75473/tajh-boyd'>Tajh Boyd</a>

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I want 3 players. Clowney, Bridgewater, Manziel. Jaguars have the number 3 pick. Just give me one of those 3 at 3, and I'm happy.

 

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We ruined Gabbert, but he's fixable. No doubt about it. The cause? The Econo-Jaguars system, why pay two guys to do the same job, doesn't work. We dumped the veteran quarterback and threw Gabbert to the wolves.


Unless the QB prospect is elite level talent he shouldn't see game time in his first season. Elite is defined as has the complete QB skills set, the highest-possible level of talent, the size and weight, superior arm strength, etc. He is expected to already know the system have experience capable of immediately making his team Super Bowl contenders.


Elite quarterback prospects are rare.


For all others (non-elite QB prospects)


Year one - He learns the system - Some pre-season action - clipboard as the number three

Year two - He learns to run the plays in the system - extended pre-season action - mop up duties

Year three - he learns details of play-making, personnel and is the back-up QB - pre-season action - mop up duties - second QB

Year four - he enters the season as the viable starting quarterback - open camp competition for the starting job

Your four year plan is not realistic considering guys like Andy Dalton play day one.

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Teddy and it's not close.

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We ruined Gabbert, but he's fixable. No doubt about it. The cause? The Econo-Jaguars system, why pay two guys to do the same job, doesn't work. We dumped the veteran quarterback and threw Gabbert to the wolves.

 

Unless the QB prospect is elite level talent he shouldn't see game time in his first season. Elite is defined as has the complete QB skills set, the highest-possible level of talent, the size and weight, superior arm strength, etc. He is expected to already know the system have experience capable of immediately making his team Super Bowl contenders.

 

Elite quarterback prospects are rare.

 

For all others (non-elite QB prospects)

 

Year one - He learns the system - Some pre-season action - clipboard as the number three 

Year two - He learns to run the plays in the system - extended pre-season action - mop up duties

Year three - he learns details of play-making, personnel and is the back-up QB - pre-season action - mop up duties - second QB

Year four - he enters the season as the viable starting quarterback - open camp competition for the starting job

 

So you enter a contract year with a Quarterback who has one season starting under his belt - Year Four - and do what? Hope that he plays lights out so you can sign him to a massive contract and then pray that it wasn't a flash in the pan?

 

Seems like your plan has some holes in it.

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Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

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Is he from Maui?

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We ruined Gabbert, but he's fixable. No doubt about it. The cause? The Econo-Jaguars system, why pay two guys to do the same job, doesn't work. We dumped the veteran quarterback and threw Gabbert to the wolves.

 

Unless the QB prospect is elite level talent he shouldn't see game time in his first season. Elite is defined as has the complete QB skills set, the highest-possible level of talent, the size and weight, superior arm strength, etc. He is expected to already know the system have experience capable of immediately making his team Super Bowl contenders.

 

Elite quarterback prospects are rare.

 

For all others (non-elite QB prospects)

 

Year one - He learns the system - Some pre-season action - clipboard as the number three 

Year two - He learns to run the plays in the system - extended pre-season action - mop up duties

Year three - he learns details of play-making, personnel and is the back-up QB - pre-season action - mop up duties - second QB

Year four - he enters the season as the viable starting quarterback - open camp competition for the starting job

Just curious... Are you married to or related to JaguarsWoman?

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We ruined Gabbert, but he's fixable. No doubt about it. The cause? The Econo-Jaguars system, why pay two guys to do the same job, doesn't work. We dumped the veteran quarterback and threw Gabbert to the wolves.

 

Unless the QB prospect is elite level talent he shouldn't see game time in his first season. Elite is defined as has the complete QB skills set, the highest-possible level of talent, the size and weight, superior arm strength, etc. He is expected to already know the system have experience capable of immediately making his team Super Bowl contenders.

 

Elite quarterback prospects are rare.

 

For all others (non-elite QB prospects)

 

Year one - He learns the system - Some pre-season action - clipboard as the number three 

Year two - He learns to run the plays in the system - extended pre-season action - mop up duties

Year three - he learns details of play-making, personnel and is the back-up QB - pre-season action - mop up duties - second QB

Year four - he enters the season as the viable starting quarterback - open camp competition for the starting job

 

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People said the same thing about Matt Scott last year.  

 

I prefer McCarron to Garapollo as well.  Though I don't think he's 'elite'.  Honestly ideally Bortles would drop to round 2, and he'd be our guy.  But that'll never happen.

 

I prefer Murray to McCarron, not a fan of McCarron or Manziel.

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Just to be different, Bortles.

People said the same thing about Matt Scott last year.  

 

I prefer McCarron to Garapollo as well.  Though I don't think he's 'elite'.  Honestly ideally Bortles would drop to round 2, and he'd be our guy.  But that'll never happen.

Matt Scott is not nearly as talented as Jimmy, that being said I wish Scott would have gotten a shot as a backup instead of Henne. 

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