No, I also like Bortles and Teddy, I just don't think Teddy is the god people see him as. I see Teddy as an Alex Smith type of player. Johnny is the second coming of Fran Tarkenton.

 

Look, I'm all for Manziel too.. But I'm not basing my opinion on the talking heads of the NFL.. Hard to call any player the second coming of ANYTHING when they've never seen a snap in the NFL before.. 

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Dude you really need to quit sniffin Teddy's jock. You're embarrassing yourself now..

 

The Teddy - Wilson comp isn't far off, actuatly. They have a similar play style. Teddy is abit bigger, Wilson is the better athlete. Here is a top 50 from a fairly well known draft dude on Twitter-

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/46...ris-top-50

 

As for Manziel, he has a good but not great arm. It is good enough to make all of the NFL throws. Best overall athlete at the QB position by a mile. Can he be good? Yes. But can he also be very, very bad? Yeah. He is your classic boom or bust pick, where as Teddy is probably the "safest bet" to be a good QB

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The Teddy - Wilson comp isn't far off, actuatly. They have a similar play style. Teddy is abit bigger, Wilson is the better athlete. Here is a top 50 from a fairly well known draft dude on Twitter-

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/46...ris-top-50

 

As for Manziel, he has a good but not great arm. It is good enough to make all of the NFL throws. Best overall athlete at the QB position by a mile. Can he be good? Yes. But can he also be very, very bad? Yeah. He is your classic boom or bust pick, where as Teddy is probably the "safest bet" to be a good QB

 

I understand and agree.. But, one's style isn't going to make one QB better than the other.. People need to understand that.. 

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Oh pah-leeze... No bias at all.. Seen your avatar lately? 

 

Yes, my exhaustive QB study has deemed Teddy to be the top QB in this class by a comfortable margin over Bortles, and neck and neck with Clowney and Robinson for best overall position value disregarded. My avatar reflects those studies. Teddy would have the highest impact for the Jags in this draft both immediately and in the future. 

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The Teddy - Wilson comp isn't far off, actuatly. They have a similar play style. Teddy is abit bigger, Wilson is the better athlete. Here is a top 50 from a fairly well known draft dude on Twitter-

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/46...ris-top-50

 

As for Manziel, he has a good but not great arm. It is good enough to make all of the NFL throws. Best overall athlete at the QB position by a mile. Can he be good? Yes. But can he also be very, very bad? Yeah. He is your classic boom or bust pick, where as Teddy is probably the "safest bet" to be a good QB

Explain how Teddy is the safer choice, I don't see why Manziel has a higher probability of being bad. Is he not the most accurate passer in the nation(Including passes over 30 yards *cough* teddy *cough*)? How would Manziel bust, he is a hard worker, mobile, strong arm, accurate. I'm asking an honest qeustion, if you can back it up with game film i will accept it, do NOT include LSU or Mizzou, he was forced to play through a serious shoulder injury because Texas A&M is nothing without him. 

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Yes, my exhaustive QB study has deemed Teddy to be the top QB in this class by a comfortable margin over Bortles, and neck and neck with Clowney and Robinson for best overall position value disregarded. My avatar reflects those studies. Teddy would have the highest impact for the Jags in this draft both immediately and in the future. 

And you live in Kentucky and like Louisville, home team bias bro, I am a canes fan so im not biased towards A&M.

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I rolled on the floor laughing, With all those missed reads in the pocket Manziel had to improvise. If he had just stuck to the play book (or just be Teddy Bridgewater) A&M would have been in the National Title hunt late


 

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Yes, my exhaustive QB study has deemed Teddy to be the top QB in this class by a comfortable margin over Bortles, and neck and neck with Clowney and Robinson for best overall position value disregarded. My avatar reflects those studies. Teddy would have the highest impact for the Jags in this draft both immediately and in the future. 

 

Would have love to have seen Manziel face weaker conference opponents like Bridgewater did.. 

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Would have love to have seen Manziel face weaker conference opponents like Bridgewater did.. 

BUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

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I rolled on the floor laughing, With all those missed reads in the pocket Manziel had to improvise. If he had just stuck to the play book (or just be Teddy Bridgewater) A&M would have been in the National Title hunt late


 

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I understand and agree.. But, one's style isn't going to make one QB better than the other.. People need to understand that.. 

Not saying that it does, just that QBs who play in a more pro style offense (Louisville) with the QB under center seem to translate better than spread style (Texas A&M) Qbs.

 

With that said, no one in this draft is a sure bet to be great. The only "sure bet" prospect in recent memory was Luck. Teddy, Manziel, Bortles, Clowney, etc aren't.

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Not saying that it does, just that QBs who play in a more pro style offense (Louisville) with the QB under center seem to translate better than spread style (Texas A&M) Qbs.

 

With that said, no one in this draft is a sure bet to be great. The only "sure bet" prospect in recent memory was Luck. Teddy, Manziel, Bortles, Clowney, etc aren't.

 

Totally agree 100%

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I have my favorite, but in all honesty, I don't give a rats [BLEEP] who it is, as long as they're successful here in Jax.. 

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And you live in Kentucky and like Louisville, home team bias bro, I am a canes fan so im not biased towards A&M.

I live in Lexington KY and I hate both UK and UL. I am a Gator fan because my dad is from Jax and is a UF alum. I also had Tebow graded as a non prospect as a QB and 7th rounder as a HB/TE...not that that matters.

 

I really don't get how you all refuse to understand how draftniks work, even amateur ones like myself. There are a lot of people out there who are completely capable of removing fandom from evaluations. 

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Explain how Teddy is the safer choice, I don't see why Manziel has a higher probability of being bad. Is he not the most accurate passer in the nation(Including passes over 30 yards *cough* teddy *cough*)? How would Manziel bust, he is a hard worker, mobile, strong arm, accurate. I'm asking an honest qeustion, if you can back it up with game film i will accept it, do NOT include LSU or Mizzou, he was forced to play through a serious shoulder injury because Texas A&M is nothing without him. 

Manziel's play style leads him to take more hits, and at the NFL level, it'll have alot of a bigger effect on his body than against college players. Teddy's play style relies on him moving around the pocket and limiting the amount of hits he takes. Like I said before, no one is a "sure thing" prospect. Those don't exist, minus Andrew Luck.

 

Teddy's "floor" as a prospect is probably just an average QB, but his ceiling could be Aaron Rodger.

 

Manziel's floor is out of the league in a few years, but his ceiling could lead him to be one of the greatest ever.

 

The draft is all just peoples preferences. Some like Teddy, some like Manziel, some like Bortles. It just all depends what you prefer when deciding on QBs.

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Wilson stands taller, is a bit stockier, probably has a better arm, and better behavior. Manziel is slightly faster, more elusive, and more magical

Johnny runs the Stabler package. Instead of Gatorade, he drinks Jack between drives.

 

Explain how Teddy is the safer choice, I don't see why Manziel has a higher probability of being bad. Is he not the most accurate passer in the nation(Including passes over 30 yards *cough* teddy *cough*)? How would Manziel bust, he is a hard worker, mobile, strong arm, accurate. I'm asking an honest qeustion, if you can back it up with game film i will accept it, do NOT include LSU or Mizzou, he was forced to play through a serious shoulder injury because Texas A&M is nothing without him. 

Manziel's own father said that Johnny Alcohol would be happier in jail than on the football field, among other pearls hidden in the interview below.

 

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/9...n-magazine

 

 

"It's one night away from the phone ringing," he says, "and he's in jail. And you know what he's gonna say? 'It's better than all the pressure I've been under. This is better than that.'"

 

Also, who are you, his freaking agent? What was your old name on this forum, hm?

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Would have love to have seen Manziel face weaker conference opponents like Bridgewater did.. 

And it would have been nice to see Manziel play with Teddy's fringe surrounding talent too, instead of the dominant top 10 picks he has played his whole career with. It all goes both ways.

 

To continue on my last post, it is also quite possible to isolate the player you are watching from his opposition, his surrounding talent, and his box score while evaluating. 

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And it would have been nice to see Manziel play with Teddy's fringe surrounding talent too, instead of the dominant top 10 picks he has played his whole career with. It all goes both ways.

 

To continue on my last post, it is also quite possible to isolate the player you are watching from his opposition, his surrounding talent, and his box score while evaluating. 

 

Hmmm. Aside from star power type of names because where they attended school, both wide receiving corps almost look identical.. 

 

http://espn.go.com/college-football/team...-cardinals

 

http://espn.go.com/college-football/team...xas-aggies

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Johnny runs the Stabler package. Instead of Gatorade, he drinks Jack between drives.

 

Manziel's own father said that Johnny Alcohol would be happier in jail than on the football field, among other pearls hidden in the interview below.

 

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/9...n-magazine

 

Also, who are you, his freaking agent? What was your old name on this forum, hm?

Johnny doesn't drink. 

Johnnys QB coach said he is the best competitor he ever met, he would wake up early and begin training, he is incredibly underrated by the teddy nutsuckers.

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Manziel is taller than Wilson by 3/4's of an inch.


You ask anybody about Johnny and the first thing they tell you is how great of a leader is and how hard he works... You sir are an idiot.

The Teddy NutSuckers are worse that the Tebro's.

And Johnny's are is much stronger.

He didn't even step into this throw, his arm looks weaker than it is because of his footwork issues, once he fixes thoughs(He already has) he will be great

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Johnny=More accurate, harder working, Russel Wilson.

No one... and I mean NO ONE is worse than the Tebros.

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Manziel's play style leads him to take more hits, and at the NFL level, it'll have alot of a bigger effect on his body than against college players. Teddy's play style relies on him moving around the pocket and limiting the amount of hits he takes. Like I said before, no one is a "sure thing" prospect. Those don't exist, minus Andrew Luck.

Johnny will take less hits and be sacked less because he avoids the rush better, Johnny runs to throw, in the NFL Johnny wont run for yardage.

Teddy's "floor" as a prospect is probably just an average QB, but his ceiling could be Aaron Rodger.

 

Manziel's floor is out of the league in a few years, but his ceiling could lead him to be one of the greatest ever.

Because he may get injured? Teddy can tear his ACL day one, you cant predict injuries.

The draft is all just peoples preferences. Some like Teddy, some like Manziel, some like Bortles. It just all depends what you prefer when deciding on QBs.

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I rolled on the floor laughing, With all those missed reads in the pocket Manziel had to improvise. If he had just stuck to the play book (or just be Teddy Bridgewater) A&M would have been in the National Title hunt late


 

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No one... and I mean NO ONE is worse than the Tebros.

The Tebro's wanted us to sign a street free agent, not waste the third pick in the draft.

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I rolled on the floor laughing, With all those missed reads in the pocket Manziel had to improvise. If he had just stuck to the play book (or just be Teddy Bridgewater) A&M would have been in the National Title hunt late


 

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