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*** The Official 2014 NFL Mock Draft Thread ***
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Quote:I think the Seahawks will lock up Bennett. And I don't really envision Watkins going past the Raiders (not saying they don't need a LT). Quote:Here is my latest idea, and it also involves trading back. I think I'd like this draft. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
D. Carr is going to be horrible at the next level...he seems to fold like a chair at the first sign of pressure...and he is going to get tons more pressure in the NFL than he ever did in college.
Quote:You know, it's going to suck to not get one of the top 3 QB's in the first round, and to have to put up with watching Henne start again this year, BUT this is exactly where I am thinking the Jags are headed in the draft. We almost have to trade down and double up on interior line in round 2 now. And I kind of hope somebody else picks Clowney and his baggage, so we end up with Mack later. Been saying this a while. I think they target another starting DE and another starting OG in Free Agency too. Being a Georgia fan, I like the pick of Aaron Murray here, but I think the Jags might try to get McCarron or Garoppolo in the 3rd though. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Also, if Marquise Lee lasted that long, I'd look for Denver to try to trade up with possibly Arizonza to snag him to replace Eric Decker, who is probably leaving the team in Free Agency. Can you imagine? Demaryious Thomas, Lee, Wes Welker and TE J. Thomas with Manning throwing to them. Another record year...until they face the Seahawks again.
Caldwell's focus of draft now becoming a little more clear. Not sure he is in love with any of the top QB's at #3, and not sure he wants the risk of Clowney busting. If his buddies from Atlanta call him to trade up for Clowney, Caldwell won't hesitate to move down. He is almost still guaranteed to get DE Mack, WR Watkins or one of the top 3 QB's at #6, AND an extra pick early in round 2, where several interior line starters and quality WR's can be found. Unfortunately, Jag fans may still have to watch Henne start, and maybe even see Gabbert in teal one more year, but the building blocks and core will be looking a lot better.
1. HOU - QB B. Bortles 2. STL - OT G. Robinson 3. ATL - DE J. Clowney (from JAC) 4. CLE - QB T. Bridgewater 5. OAK - OT J. Matthews 6. JAC - DE K. Mack (from ATL) - The defensive playmaker/passrusher Jags need desperately 7. TAM - WR S. Watkins 8. MIN - QB J. Manziel 9. BUF - OLB A. Barr 10. DET - CB D. Dennard 11. TEN - WR M. Evans 12. NYG - OT T. Lewan 13. STL - CB J. Gilbert 14. CHI - DT A. Donald 15. PIT - S H. Clinton-Dix 16. DAL - DT T. Jernigan 17. BAL - LB C.J. Mosley 18. NYJ - WR M. Lee 19. MIA - OT Z. Martin 20. ARI - OLB D. Ford 21. G.B.- TE E. Ebron 22. PHI - S C. Pryor 23. K.C.- WR O. Beckham Jr 24. CIN - OLB R. Shazier 25. S.D. - CB J. Verrett 26. CLE - WR K. Benjamin 27. N.O. - WR B. Cooks 28. CAR - OT C. Kouandjio 29. N.E. - TE J. Amaro 30. S.F. - NT L. Nix 31. DEN - DE K. Ealy 32. SEA - DT R. Hageman Rnd 2 - WR Allen Robinson, Penn St (Caldwell does not hesitate to find starting WR due to questions on Blackmon) Rnd 2 - OG David Yankey, Stanford (starter at LOG beside Joeckel for next decade Rnd 3 - OC Travis Swanson, Arkansas (dropped slightly, will be a steal here and a quality starter at Center) Rnd 4 - RB Leche Seastrunk, Baylor (starter from day 1, rotates with Todman) Rnd4 - QB Z. Mettenberger, LSU or A. Murray, UGA (finally a QB, but could sit out most of year and develop) Remaining picks - Defensive depth Free Agency: Sign a starting OG and starting DE
My latest thoughts on first round:
1. HOU - QB B. Bortles (Texans take QB of the future over bust-risk Clowney) 2. STL - OT G. Robinson (upside of this athletic beast too good to pass up for Rams) 3. ATL - DE J. Clowney (from JAC) (Clowney gets his wish, and Falcons get their stud DE) 4. CLE - QB T. Bridgewater (Browns bluff of favoring Carr over other QB’s works) 5. OAK - OT J. Matthews (Raiders pass on Manziel for the most NFL-ready prospect of 2014) 6. JAC - DE K. Mack (from ATL) (The defensive playmaker & pass rusher Jags need desperately) 7. TAM - WR S. Watkins (Sammy paired with V-Jack could be a scary combo for opposing DB’s) 8. MIN - QB J. Manziel (Vikings hope Johnny can be a modern day Fran Tarkenton) 9. BUF - OLB A. Barr (Could be WR Mike Evans here, but OLB a big need and BAP) 10. DET - CB D. Dennard (Lions take home-state shut-down CB without hesitation) 11. TEN – CB J. Gilbert (CB Alterraun Verner expected to leave in Free Agency) 12. NYG - OT T. Lewan (Biggest priority for G-men is to protect declining Eli Manning) 13. STL – WR M. Evans (Rams would be ecstatic if Evans made it to them here) 14. CHI - DT A. Donald (Impressive DT suits Bears needs just fine) 15. PIT – FS H. Clinton-Dix (Steelers need OLB, but can pass up help at Safety) 16. DAL – DT T. Jernigan (Cowboys grab solid DT for their worn-out D-line) 17. BAL - LB C.J. Mosley (Ravens built around their LB’s and upgrade with Mosley) 18. NYJ - WR M. Lee (Lee should be a lock to Jets if still available here) 19. MIA - OT Z. Martin (Will the Dolphins dare take any other position in round 1?) 20. ARI - OLB D. Ford (The Cardinals are a wildcard here, and could trade down) 21. G.B.- TE E. Ebron (Jamarcus Finley not expected back, and Ebron would be a great fit) 22. PHI - FS C. Pryor (Safety has been penciled-in to the Eagles for months now) 23. K.C.- WR O. Beckham Jr (Dynamic WR/KR adds to already talented offense) 24. CIN - OLB R. Shazier (May be a slight reach, but James Harrison is on his last legs) 25. S.D. - CB J. Verrett (Best available CB brings some speed to Chargers secondary) 26. CLE - WR K. Benjamin (A big red zone target to couple with Josh Gordon, Teddy smiles) 27. N.O. - WR B. Cooks (Will be the Saints “Wes Welker” in slot for Drew Brees) 28. CAR - OT C. Koundjio (OT a must-have for Panthers who probably lose Jordan Gross) 29. N.E. – NT L. Nix (Big NT falls a little, but Pats happy to have Wilfork’s replacement) 30. S.F. – DT R. Hageman (Justin Smith can’t be too far from retirement, Hageman could go higher) 31. DEN - DE K. Ealy (Could be a WR here to replace Decker, but Ealy too talented to pass up) 32. SEA – TE J. Amaro (The rich get richer as last piece of the offensive puzzle falls in place) P.S. Is it sad that I have almost memorized the entire draft order? Round 2 notes: Jags take a WR (Allen Robinson?) and an OG (Su'a-Filo or Yankey) in round 2 with extra pick from Atlanta. QB David Carr goes to Oakland. Denver takes WR Donte Moncrief or Jordan Matthews at end or round 2 to replace Eric Decker, and rookie WR catches 10 TD passes. Quote:My latest thoughts on first round:Good mock. I had to guess where Watkins might land if the Raiders don't take him. It would be interesting for the Vikings to take a flyer on Manziel, perhaps Spielman will make another attempt at over drafting a QB. I think Spielman knows he's on thin ice so Im not sure he would take a chance. Would be surprised if Koundjio is still a 1st round pick after his disastrous combine. It's just odd not mocking a QB to the Jaguars, but it truly does seem that we will have to wait a couple years till we invest in one. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Quote:Good mock. I had to guess where Watkins might land if the Raiders don't take him. It would be interesting for the Vikings to take a flyer on Manziel, perhaps Spielman will make another attempt at over drafting a QB. I think Spielman knows he's on thin ice so Im not sure he would take a chance. Would be surprised if Koundjio is still a 1st round pick after his disastrous combine.Yeah, I thought about that for the Vikings also, but they are desperate for a new QB. If they don't trade up, Manziel or Carr, both bust prospects, will be their guy. Maybe Garoppolo in the 2nd I guess. I can see some Vikings fans comparing Manziel to their hero of yester-year, Tarkenton. Great legs, decent arm, just a playmaker. I have swapped Koundjio and Morgan Moses back and forth between 1st and 2nd round several times now. On the Jags, yes it is odd not to give them a QB, but none are a sure thing again, and we still need building blocks at so many other positions If Henne is resigned, expect him to be the starter on opening day. If we don't trade down, and Clowney is gone, I see Caldwell taking Mack over Bridewater or Manziel, but possibly taking Bortles over Mack. We really need that extra round 2 pick to rebuild the interior O-line though. Quote:Caldwell's focus of draft now becoming a little more clear. Not sure he is in love with any of the top QB's at #3, and not sure he wants the risk of Clowney busting. If his buddies from Atlanta call him to trade up for Clowney, Caldwell won't hesitate to move down. He is almost still guaranteed to get DE Mack, WR Watkins or one of the top 3 QB's at #6, AND an extra pick early in round 2, where several interior line starters and quality WR's can be found. Unfortunately, Jag fans may still have to watch Henne start, and maybe even see Gabbert in teal one more year, but the building blocks and core will be looking a lot better.I like the trade and taking Mack in the 1st. Also like Yankey in the 2nd and Swanson in the 3rd. However, I'd take the best q.b. available in the 2nd round- either McCarron or Garrapalo. Instead of Robinson in the 2nd, I'd take a receiver in the 4th as it's a very deep position and, as a Penn State fan, I have a feeling Robinson will be a bust in the pros. He was a great college receiver who was a mismatch against most cornerbacks, but he runs lazy routes which will hurt him in the pros.
Quote:I like the trade and taking Mack in the 1st. Also like Yankey in the 2nd and Swanson in the 3rd. However, I'd take the best q.b. available in the 2nd round- eitherThanks for the insight on Allen. We are going to need starter-quality WR either in Free Agency or the draft though. I don't see Blackmon contributing, Shorts is always a question mark with injuries, and Sanders is purely slot. I am pretty much convinced Henne will be our starter this year if we don't take a QB at the top of the 1st round anyways. We also NEED a RB to start. Therefore, unfortunately QB gets pushed back some. Here is a new take on my guesses. Not ideal for the QB situation. This is with us trading back to #6 and picking up the extra round 2 pick from Atlanta: Rnd 1 - WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson Rnd 2 - OG David Yankey, Stanford Rnd 2 - DE Scott Crighton, Oregon State Rnd 3 - OC Travis Swanson, Arkansas Rnd 4 - RB Leche Seastrunk, Baylor Rnd 4 - LB Christian Jones, FSU Rnd 5 - QB Aaron Murray or Zack Mettenberger (both may be gone I know) Rnd 5 - BAP DB Rnd 5 -WR Jeff Janis, Saginaw Valley St Rnd 6 - DE Michael Sam, Missouri (This will really bring some media attention to Jax, LOL) Rnd 7 - QB Tom Savage, Pitt
Quote:Thanks for the insight on Allen. We are going to need starter-quality WR either in Free Agency or the draft though. I don't see Blackmon contributing, Shorts is always a question mark with injuries, and Sanders is purely slot. I am pretty much convinced Henne will be our starter this year if we don't take a QB at the top of the 1st round anyways. We also NEED a RB to start. Therefore, unfortunately QB gets pushed back some. As bad as Jax needs a QB, I wouldn't mind this scenario at all.. Watkins & Seastruck could be a deadly combo.. And am I the only one who can see Murray being a successful NFL QB on this board? Yeah he's hurt, but he has the tangibles to get it done.. Not trying to sound masochistic, but his injury could be a God Send to the Jags if they take him in the later rounds and he proves to be a good QB.. ![[Image: SaKG4.gif]](https://s12.gifyu.com/images/SaKG4.gif)
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Quote:As bad as Jax needs a QB, I wouldn't mind this scenario at all.. Watkins & Seastruck could be a deadly combo.. And am I the only one who can see Murray being a successful NFL QB on this board? Yeah he's hurt, but he has the tangibles to get it done.. Not trying to sound masochistic, but his injury could be a God Send to the Jags if they take him in the later rounds and he proves to be a good QB.. Agreed. If we couldn't get a QB high in the draft I would love for the Jags to be able to pick up Murray.
Quote:As bad as Jax needs a QB, I wouldn't mind this scenario at all.. Watkins & Seastruck could be a deadly combo.. And am I the only one who can see Murray being a successful NFL QB on this board? Yeah he's hurt, but he has the tangibles to get it done.. Not trying to sound masochistic, but his injury could be a God Send to the Jags if they take him in the later rounds and he proves to be a good QB..Yep, and can you imagine if Blackmon was able to get his life on track and did come back for most of the season? Blackmon, Watkins, Shorts and Sanders in the slot would be one of the best WR line-ups in the NFL. Henne would be in hog heaven with that group a fortified interior O-line. Would make almost any QB look good...except Gabbert probably. Quote:... am I the only one who can see Murray being a successful NFL QB on this board? Yeah he's hurt, but he has the tangibles to get it done.. Not trying to sound masochistic, but his injury could be a God Send to the Jags if they take him in the later rounds and he proves to be a good QB.. The major issue that I have with Murray is his height and the effect that it has had on his passing. He has worked behind some massive Offensive Lines and all, but he's also struggled with batted passes. I think he has a lot of tools that will make him effective, I just worry that he may end up wasting downs due to his passes getting swatted into the dirt.
I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.
Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!
With Round 2 now included:
1. HOU - QB B. Bortles (Texans take QB of the future over bust-risk Clowney) 2. STL - OT G. Robinson (upside of this athletic beast too good to pass up for Rams) 3. ATL - DE J. Clowney (from JAC) (Clowney gets his wish, and Falcons get their stud DE) 4. CLE - QB T. Bridgewater (Browns bluff of favoring Carr over other QB’s works) 5. OAK - OT J. Matthews (Raiders pass on Manziel for the most NFL-ready prospect of 2014) 6. JAC - DE K. Mack (from ATL) (The defensive playmaker & pass rusher Jags need desperately) 7. TAM - WR S. Watkins (Sammy paired with V-Jack could be a scary combo for opposing DB’s) 8. MIN - QB J. Manziel (Vikings hope Johnny can be a modern day Fran Tarkenton) 9. BUF - OLB A. Barr (Could be WR Mike Evans here, but OLB a big need and BAP) 10. DET - CB D. Dennard (Lions take home-state shut-down CB without hesitation) 11. TEN – CB J. Gilbert (A. Verner set to leave in F.A) 12. NYG - OT T. Lewan (Biggest priority for G-men is to protect declining Eli Manning) 13. STL – WR M. Evans (Will be CB if Evans gone and Dennard or Gilbert available) 14. CHI - DT A. Donald (Impressive DT suits Bears needs just fine) 15. PIT – FS H. Clinton-Dix (Steelers need WR too, but can pass up help at Safety) 16. DAL – DT T. Jernigan (Cowboys grab solid DT for their worn-out D-line) 17. BAL - LB C.J. Mosley (Ravens built around their LB’s and upgrade with Mosley) 18. NYJ - WR M. Lee (Lee should be a lock to Jets if still available here) 19. MIA - OT Z. Martin (Will the Dolphins dare take any other position in round 1?) 20. ARI - OLB D. Ford (The Cardinals are a wildcard here, and could trade down) 21. G.B.- TE E. Ebron (Jamarcus Finley not expected back, and Ebron would be a great fit) 22. PHI - FS C. Pryor (Safety has been penciled-in to the Eagles for months now) 23. K.C.- WR O. Beckham Jr (Dynamic WR/KR adds to already talented offense) 24. CIN - OLB R. Shazier (May be a slight reach, but James Harrison is on his last legs) 25. S.D. - CB J. Verrett (Best available CB brings some speed to Chargers secondary) 26. CLE - WR K. Benjamin (A big red zone target to couple with Josh Gordon, Teddy smiles) 27. N.O. - WR B. Cooks (Will be the Saints “Wes Welker” in slot for Drew Brees) 28. CAR - OT M. Moses (OT a must-have for Panthers who probably lose Jordan Gross) 29. N.E. – NT L. Nix (Big NT falls a little, but Pats happy to have Wilfork’s replacement) 30. S.F. – DT R. Hageman (Justin Smith can’t be too far from retirement, Hageman could go higher) 31. DEN - DE K. Ealy (Could be a WR here to replace Decker, but Ealy too talented to pass up) 32. SEA – TE J. Amaro (The rich get richer as last piece of the offensive puzzle falls in place) 33. HOU – OG X. Sua-Filo 34. WAS – CB K. Fuller 35. CLE – DT S. Tuitt 36. OAK – QB D. Carr 37. JAC – OG D. Yankey (from ATL) 38. TAM – OLB K. Van Noy 39. JAC – WR J. Matthews (could be QB J. Garoppolo if Caldwell really likes him that much) 40. MIN – DE S. Crighton 41. BUF – TE A. Saf-Jenkins 42. TEN – OT C. Koundjio 43. NYG – CB B. Roby 44. STL – CB M. Roberson 45. DET – WR A. Robinson 46. PIT – OLB C. Bradford 47. DAL – OG G. Jackson 48. BAL – OT A. Richardson 49. NYJ – OLB T. Reily 50. MIA – RB T. Mason 51. CHI – S J. Ward 52. ARI – QB J. Garoppollo 53. G.B.- DE T. Murphy 54. PHI – CB L. Joyner 55. CIN – DE K. Martin 56. S.F. – WR D. Adams 57. S.D. – WR P. Richardson 58. N.O. – DE D. Easley 59. IND – OC M. Martin 60. CAR – WR J. Landry 61. S.F. – CB J. Watkins 62. N.E. – TE T. Niklas 63. DEN – WR D. Moncrief 64. SEA – OT J. Mewhort Or would you all rather see 1. WR Sammy Watkins 2. DE Scott Crighton combo over Mack - Matthews? We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Here's and interesting one I made with Manziel falling and a certain team trading up to get him:
1. HOU- DE J. Clowney 2. STL - OT G. Robinson 3. JAC – QB T. Bridgewater 4. CLE – WR S. Watkins 5. OAK - OT J. Matthews 6. ATL - DE K. Mack 7. TAM – QB B. Bortles 8. MIN – OLB A. Barr 9. BUF – WR M. Evans 10. DET - CB D. Dennard 11. TEN – OT T. Lewan 12. NYG – DT A. Donald 13. STL –CB J. Gilbert 14. CHI - DT T. Jernigan 15. PIT – FS H. Clinton-Dix 16. DAL – DT R. Hageman 17. BAL - LB C.J. Mosley 18. NYJ – WR B. Cooks 19. MIA - OT Z. Martin 20. ARI - OLB D. Ford 21. G.B.- TE E. Ebron 22. PHI - FS C. Pryor 23. K.C.- WR M. Lee 24. CIN – DE K. Ealy 25. HOU – QB J. Manziel 26. CLE – QB D. Carr 27. N.O. - WR O. Beckham Jr 28. CAR - OT M. Moses 29. N.E. – NT L. Nix 30. S.F. – CB J. Verrett 31. DEN – DT S. Tuitt 32. SEA – OG X. Sua-Filo 33. S.D. – WR K. Benjamin(from HOU) 34. WAS – CB B. Roby 35. CLE – OLB R. Shazier 36. OAK – TE J. Amaro 37. ATL – TE A. Saf-Jenkins 38. TAM – OLB K. Van Noy 39. JAC – OG D. Yankey *The Texans give the Chargers their 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks for #25 to draft Manziel after he falls. Texans come away with Clowney AND Manziel. **While I'd rather have Mack or Watkins for instant impact this year, I would not be mad if Bridgewater was the pick for the Jags. And Yankey in round 2 would really help re-build the interior line.
MOCK 8.0 / DRAFT OF THE CENTURY / QB'S FALL
1. Houston Texans (2-14) - Jadeveon Clowney DE 2. St. Louis Rams (Skins 3-13) - Jake Matthews OT 3. Jacksonville Jaguars (4-12) - Khalil Mack OLB 4. Cleveland Browns (4-12) - Blake Bortles QB 5. Oakland Raiders (4-12) - Sammy Watkins WR <p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);">6. <b>Atlanta Falcons </b> (4-12) - Greg Robinson OT 7. Tampa Bay Buccs (4-12) - Teddy Bridgewater QB 8. Minnesota Vikings (5-10-1) - Justin Gilbert CB 9. Buffalo Bills (6-10) - Mike Evans WR 10. Detroit Lions (6-10) - Taylor Lewan OT 11. Tennesse Titans - Darqueze Dennard CB 12. New York Giants - Aaron Donald DT 13. St. Louis Rams - Calvin Pyror S 14. Chicago Bears - Timmy Jernigan DT 15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Rashede Hageman DT 16. Dallas Cowboys - Anthony Barr OLB 17. Baltimore Ravens - C.J. Mosley ILB 18. New York Jets - Marquise Lee WR 19. Miami Dolphins - Zach Martin OT 20. Arizona Cardinals - Derek Carr QB 21. Green Bay Packers - Eric Ebron TE 22. Philadelphia Eagles - HAHA Clinton-Dix S 23. Kansas City Chiefs - Odell Beckman WR 24. Cincinnati Bengals - Dee Ford DE 25. San Diego Chargers - Bradley Roby CB 26. Cleveland Browns - Kelvin Benjamin WR 27. New Orleans Saints - Xavier Su’a Filo OG 28. Carolina Panthers - Morgan Moses OT 29. New England Patriots - Louis Nix NT 30. San Francisco 49ers -Jason Verrett CB 31. Denver Broncos - Ryan Shazier OLB 32. *Trade* Jacksonville Jaguars - Johnny Manziel QB Jacksonville trades 2nd Round, 4th Round, and 5th round for Seahawks 1st Round Pick I'm expected Johnny to fall because of just the nature of this draft. So much talent at every position, I expect many teams to pursue other quarterback options versus taking a flyer on Johnny. It will be a Tebow fail all over again, except with different results in the end. Jaguars: 1st Round Khalil Mack OLB 1st Round Johnny Manziel QB 3rd Round Travis Swanson C 4th Round Lache Seastrunk HB 5th Round Deandre Coleman DT 5th Round Crockett Gilmore TE 6th Round Kevin Norwood WR 7th Round Charles Sawyer S
Tebow fail with different results in the end? Whaaat?
If that RV sales place wants Tebow in Jax bad enough to take out a billboard saying as much.....they should just HIRE him.
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