Thats something I never paid much attention to. He only got sacked like 10 times this past season. 

 

Interesting though, and something to ponder. 

 

If it's an issue I'm guessing Tony Khan and the boys will figure that out.

 

Seems like how often a guy fumbles after getting hit or sacked and such will be easy to track from a statistical vantage.

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If it's an issue I'm guessing Tony Khan and the boys will figure that out.

 

Seems like how often a guy fumbles after getting hit or sacked and such will be easy to track from a statistical vantage.

 

See if this is a flaw, it may or may not manifest in college stats.

 

Taking TMD's figures of 10 sacks at face value, that may not translate into many fumbles.

 

However, the NFL provides more evenly matched opponents, bigger, stronger and faster defenders, and more games.

 

Shoot, if the Texans take Clowney and pair him with Watt, Bridgewater could easily suffer half that number in his first game against the Texans.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

Let's be honest, Henne was a breathe of fresh air when he replaced Gabbert. There were moments where the team actually looked like they were NFL worthy.


With that said, I don't mind if Henne is still on the roster at the start off the season. The concern will only begin if we don't draft a QB by the 3rd round. I think there are players to be had that can replace him by midseason and be better.

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Let's be honest, Henne was a breathe of fresh air when he replaced Gabbert. There were moments where the team actually looked like they were NFL worthy.


With that said, I don't mind if Henne is still on the roster at the start off the season. The concern will only begin if we don't draft a QB by the 3rd round. I think there are players to be had that can replace him by midseason and be better.

 

The way I recall it the Jaguars got stomped repeatedly with Henne in the game, too.

 

I recall the Jaguars playing the Raiders and not having any effective drives until garbage time with Henne in for the whole game.

 

In fact if looking like an NFL team is what matters then go back and look at some of Gabbert's games in '11 and '12, we were almost fooled.

 

Henne might be marginally better than Gabbert, but I don't think it's worth trying to split hairs, if either of them are starting for the Jaguars in 2014 we're going to be in big trouble.

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Let's be honest, Henne was a breathe of fresh air when he replaced Gabbert.

 

 

I remember it more like this.

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The way I recall it the Jaguars got stomped repeatedly with Henne in the game, too.

 

I recall the Jaguars playing the Raiders and not having any effective drives until garbage time with Henne in for the whole game.

 

In fact if looking like an NFL team is what matters then go back and look at some of Gabbert's games in '11 and '12, we were almost fooled.

 

Henne might be marginally better than Gabbert, but I don't think it's worth trying to split hairs, if either of them are starting for the Jaguars in 2014 we're going to be in big trouble.

 

Well, to be fair you have to mention that when the WR corps was at full strength (i.e. Blackmon, Shorts, Brown, and Lewis all in the game), Henne was throwing for 300 yard per game.  The QB always gets to much blame when the team loses and to much credit when they win.

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If you have to resort to the racism card, your argument is inherently weak.

My argument is that the kid can play and he has the tape to prove it, the haters have no reason to hate yet they still find it necessary.  . 

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Yeah, that's it.  It's all about being racists.  It couldn't have anything to do with having concerns about his durability at the next level, or the fact that when he's faced stronger competition, he hasn't been overly impressive with his production.  It's all about skin color.  Okey dokey. 

 

As someone above has already pointed out, once you resort to the race card in the debate, you're pretty much out of arguments.

Out of arguments? If any of you Teddy haters actually watched all the tape of this kids career maybe you would share the same opinion as I do, the only thing that keeps him from being an "Andrew Luck" type prospect is his size/competition.. that's it! The kids far more accurate than Luck, better decision maker and better footwork in the pocket.. I honestly don't understand why he is so underrated and if the Texans pass on him at 1 they will regret it. 

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Kitna was light years better than Henne. He posted better numbers than Henne's best year in all years he started 15 games except one. Henne is incapable of a 26 TD season (Kitna's best) Henne isn't even Jake Delhomme.

Y'know, I always thought of Kitna as slightly below average - the kind of guy that could win you games but couldn't get you to the playoffs.  Like David, but I didn't want to put that lightning rod out there.

 

Henne can't even reach Kitna status.  He averages 1 touchdown and 1 1/4 interceptions a game.  I really don't like to play beat-up-the-QB, but jeez there's gotta be better out there available cheaper.

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Y'know, I always thought of Kitna as slightly below average - the kind of guy that could win you games but couldn't get you to the playoffs.  Like David, but I didn't want to put that lightning rod out there.

 

Henne can't even reach Kitna status.  He averages 1 touchdown and 1 1/4 interceptions a game.  I really don't like to play beat-up-the-QB, but jeez there's gotta be better out there available cheaper.

There maybe someone slightly better, but there isn't some FA superstar waiting to be picked up.

 

What is the point of going after some ho hum guy who by the time they become acclimated to the personnel and the system well enough to consistently outperform Henne, we will be ready to move on from them too.

 

At least the other young players on the roster which we are trying to develop won't have to wait half a year in order to get on the same page as their QB.

 

Henne is a back up caliber QB and is solid in that role. If Henne were able to go out there and win more than 4 games with the jags depleted roster, then he would have been a good starting caliber QB.

 

People need to quit expecting Henne to be something that he isn't, a quality starting QB. They also need to quit thinking that these bench warmers that are available in free agency are something that he isn't either.

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If Henne is our starter when week one rolls around, expect another longggggg season

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I kinda felt the same way about Henne last season. Then I found his old college scouting report and it contained pretty much everything we're seeing from him on game day.

 

I don't think it's critical to keep him around. If he cares so little about his own college scouting report that he never bothered to try and improve his game, it's pretty clear he's not going to change at this point in time. What seven years as the same guy he was at Michigan?

 

Let's improve the offensive line with versatile offensive linemen like Jake Matthews, Taylor Lewan, and Dakota Dozier. We can draft McCarron after a while.

 

Who knows how Gabbert will react to the improvements. Anything less that fifty sacks per year for the past two-straight seasons is getting better.

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Well, to be fair you have to mention that when the WR corps was at full strength (i.e. Blackmon, Shorts, Brown, and Lewis all in the game), Henne was throwing for 300 yard per game.  The QB always gets to much blame when the team loses and to much credit when they win.

 

Henne did little outside of garbage time no matter who was playing in the games I recall this year.

 

Passing for 300 yards doesn't mean anything when you're losing by 30 midway through the third quarter and the other team has gone into a soft zone.

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Henne did little outside of garbage time no matter who was playing in the games I recall this year.

 

Passing for 300 yards doesn't mean anything when you're losing by 30 midway through the third quarter and the other team has gone into a soft zone.

 

My recollection is different.  There were times, mostly in the second half of the year when the offense was moving the ball against the regular defense and looked pretty good doing it.  The final score doesn't always tell the whole story.  Of course there *were* times when the offense looked dreadful.  For whatever reason, I think people tend to only remember the negatives.  

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To tough on Henne? That is laughable. I'll tell you what was tough, watching that no talent hack sucking it up all over the field weekly. I keep reading he is a "decent" back-up. That is just not true. I would say to be considered decent that a fan would at least have some semblance of confidence that their team would stand better than a 50/50 shot to win the game with the QB that is playing. Does the Chenne offer that?.... I think not. Dude is just not good. It absolutely sucks that he is even a possibility here next year.

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To tough on Henne? That is laughable. I'll tell you what was tough, watching that no talent hack sucking it up all over the field weekly. I keep reading he is a "decent" back-up. That is just not true. I would say to be considered decent that a fan would at least have some semblance of confidence that their team would stand better than a 50/50 shot to win the game with the QB that is playing. Does the Chenne offer that?.... I think not. Dude is just not good. It absolutely sucks that he is even a possibility here next year.

 

This. ^^^

 

I think it speaks to how far we've been ridden into the ground as a fan base that we can't even see how bad a QB like Henne really is. 

 

I side with your opinion that even as a backup, I'd like the position improved from what Henne could deliever. Thats why I am for the Jags drafting 2 QB this May. 

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This. ^^^


I think it speaks to how far we've been ridden into the ground as a fan base that we can't even see how bad a QB like Henne really is.


I side with your opinion that even as a backup, I'd like the position improved from what Henne could deliever. Thats why I am for the Jags drafting 2 QB this May.

Cosign. We've seen bad QB play for so long people think what Henne did was good. Smh......

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Its just my logic that having a "caretaker/bridge/stop-gap" QB is absolutely a waste of time if he isn't your future. Draft two QBs this draft. I don't like any of the QBs at #3 overall BUT they look really damn good at the bottom as far as value/potential ratio goes. Murray, Goroppolo (sp), L. Thomas, etc. have a high range of possiblities. They could be trash but could also be gold. I'd be ok with taking a shot in the dark with two of them because it means we are moving forward in trying to find "the guy".

 

If you want a bridge QB, Get someone at the veteran minimum we can release mid-season once the rookie gets his feet under him. Then use the extra spot to put a practice squad player on the 53.

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My recollection is different.  There were times, mostly in the second half of the year when the offense was moving the ball against the regular defense and looked pretty good doing it.  The final score doesn't always tell the whole story.  Of course there *were* times when the offense looked dreadful.  For whatever reason, I think people tend to only remember the negatives.  

 

Blackmon didn't even play in the second half of the year.

 

Also are we really measuring Henne as good when he's playing other bottom feeders? Seriously, having a statistically good game against a team that's tanking isn't something to hang your hat on.

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Blackmon didn't even play in the second half of the year.

 

Also are we really measuring Henne as good when he's playing other bottom feeders? Seriously, having a statistically good game against a team that's tanking isn't something to hang your hat on.

 

Exactly how I see it. Henne's splay/ stats weren't all that good, and thats worse when you consider the level of opponent he played in games 9-15. 

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