That’s not it at all but I’m not shocked you can’t understand that.

Pederson is a fine candidate but they literally offered the job to Leftwich which means he was their first choice…. Not Pederson. They botched this whole situation and if Pederson doesn’t come here, they are unbelievably screwed.

This is about an owner who can’t make up his mind about what he wants. An owner who went on vacation in the middle of a HC search. An owner who most likely kept Leftwich in limbo the entire time which limited Leftwichs other opportunities.

If the get Pederson and Spielman, I’ll be fine with it. But a lot of people are disappointed in how this entire search went down and rightfully so.

I understand it completely,  I never said I liked the way they went about this whole process, I haven't liked it at all.  They should of fired Baalke right after the season and then they could of likely got whoever they wanted with no issues with any of the candidates.  We don't know if Pederson was their first choice or not.  He was the first coach we brought in and it was rumored that Pederson didn't want to work for Baalke.  If Pederson said he he would of worked with Baalke he might of been offered the job first.  The reason Byron was offered the job is because he didn't say he wouldn't work with Baalke until the job was offered.  He should of brought it up in the first interview even though it would be awkward, or even in a private call. It was pretty clear from reports they knew Pederson didn't want to work with Baalke right off the bat.  Pederson was an afterthought from the first interview until Spielman came back into play.  Was rumored Tony Khan was also banging the table for Pederson

We know for a fact Pederson wasn’t the first choice because they didn’t offer him the job.

They offered it to Leftwich. And it wasn’t until a full month after Pedersons first interview and Leftwich telling them he didn’t want Baalke either did they circle back.

This is a disaster and no one is acting like we lost a SB winning coach. People are acting like the Jags have been incompetent the whole time and they let a good coach slip away. Regardless if you think Leftwich will be a good HC or not, they let a good coach who wanted to be here walk away because they can’t do anything right.

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I would rather the coaching search be as [BLEEP] up as it is but us end up with the right GM and coach than us picked early on in the search and end up with the wrong ones.

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I would rather the coaching search be as [BLEEP] up as it is but us end up with the right GM and coach than us picked early on in the search and end up with the wrong ones.

You mean the ones you want?

Because choosing Byron and Wilson could have easily been the right choice as well as picking early.

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Watch the saints get pederson now

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I would rather the coaching search be as [BLEEP] up as it is but us end up with the right GM and coach than us picked early on in the search and end up with the wrong ones.

Agreed with this sentiment as a general rule.

However, because the search has been so messed up, and because it has taken so long, the chances of them getting the right people decrease by the hour.

As it stands now, we won't have any coaches at the freaking Senior Bowl.  We won't have a GM at the Senior Bowl.

Even assuming a coach and GM are named tomorrow, how will they assemble a staff?

If it's Pederson, maybe he has guys in mind who have already agreed to come with him.

If it's Bisaccia, maybe he brings the guys from Vegas.

But they are definitely behind schedule.

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I would rather the coaching search be as [BLEEP] up as it is but us end up with the right GM and coach than us picked early on in the search and end up with the wrong ones.

You mean the ones you want?

Because choosing Byron and Wilson could have easily been the right choice as well as picking early.

That's the one you want, that necessarily wouldn't be the right ones.

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I would rather the coaching search be as [BLEEP] up as it is but us end up with the right GM and coach than us picked early on in the search and end up with the wrong ones.

Agreed with this sentiment as a general rule.

However, because the search has been so messed up, and because it has taken so long, the chances of them getting the right people decrease by the hour.

As it stands now, we won't have any coaches at the freaking Senior Bowl.  We won't have a GM at the Senior Bowl.

Even assuming a coach and GM are named tomorrow, how will they assemble a staff?

If it's Pederson, maybe he has guys in mind who have already agreed to come with him.

If it's Bisaccia, maybe he brings the guys from Vegas.

But they are definitely behind schedule.

If it's not Pederson they definitely messed up.  SB coaches don't grow on trees.   It would be nice to hire someone before the Senior Bowl. I'd still rather get the right ones late than the wrong ones early.

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He isn't alone in thinking this . . . several of the guys on 1010xl were saying the same thing, that they believed a good amount of Leftwich's following for the HC position came from him playing here.

It probably didn't hurt that he played for the Jags, but it's not like Byron was all that well liked as a player.  If we hadn't drafted Leftwich, the rumor was that Del Rio wanted Suggs.  And if we had drafted Suggs that year, we could have had Big Ben the following year instead of Shack reaching for receivers that weren't any good.
Who wouldn't have preferred Suggs and Big Ben over Leftwich and Reggie Williams and to top that off, Matt freaking Jones?  Drafting Leftwich set us back years, so if anything, his time here as a player should be detrimental.

Gotta agree with this.

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

You mean the ones you want?

Because choosing Byron and Wilson could have easily been the right choice as well as picking early.

That's the one you want, that necessarily wouldn't be the right ones.

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Agreed with this sentiment as a general rule.

However, because the search has been so messed up, and because it has taken so long, the chances of them getting the right people decrease by the hour.

As it stands now, we won't have any coaches at the freaking Senior Bowl.  We won't have a GM at the Senior Bowl.

Even assuming a coach and GM are named tomorrow, how will they assemble a staff?

If it's Pederson, maybe he has guys in mind who have already agreed to come with him.

If it's Bisaccia, maybe he brings the guys from Vegas.

But they are definitely behind schedule.

If it's not Pederson they definitely messed up.  SB coaches don't grow on trees.   It would be nice to hire someone before the Senior Bowl.

Exactly right.

By conducting the search the way they did, they painted themselves into a corner.  Pederson is the only guy who can get them out at this stage.

Even if they hired Pederson tomorrow, it would effectively be too late for them and his staff (whomever it may be) to scout it.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

You mean the ones you want?

Because choosing Byron and Wilson could have easily been the right choice as well as picking early.

That's the one you want, that necessarily wouldn't be the right ones.

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Agreed with this sentiment as a general rule.

However, because the search has been so messed up, and because it has taken so long, the chances of them getting the right people decrease by the hour.

As it stands now, we won't have any coaches at the freaking Senior Bowl.  We won't have a GM at the Senior Bowl.

Even assuming a coach and GM are named tomorrow, how will they assemble a staff?

If it's Pederson, maybe he has guys in mind who have already agreed to come with him.

If it's Bisaccia, maybe he brings the guys from Vegas.

But they are definitely behind schedule.

If it's not Pederson they definitely messed up.  SB coaches don't grow on trees.   It would be nice to hire someone before the Senior Bowl.  I'd still rather get the right ones late than the wrong ones early.

That’s the whole point.

They are down to ONE SINGLE VIABLE CANDIDATE after having the most time to find a coach.

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That's the one you want, that necessarily wouldn't be the right ones.

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If it's not Pederson they definitely messed up.  SB coaches don't grow on trees.   It would be nice to hire someone before the Senior Bowl.

Exactly right.

By conducting the search the way they did, they painted themselves into a corner.  Pederson is the only guy who can get them out at this stage.

Even if they hired Pederson tomorrow, it would effectively be too late for them and his staff (whomever it may be) to scout it.

We do have scouts there but i have faith in Spielman to draft some good players.  I'm sure he's been scouting most of these guys the whole college season.  Plus we have the combine coming up

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I like Leftwich but some people here and on twitter are acting like he is a sure thing, is he really? is he really the best HC candidate?

How can he fail.  He won a SB with Brady.  All of the coaches that took head coaching jobs after winning the SB with Brady have been successful so I can only assume Byron will be a top coach in the NFL.

* O'Brien
* McDaniel
* Mangini
* Crennel
* Judge

As with most of your posts, I literally laughed out loud

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

That's the one you want, that necessarily wouldn't be the right ones.

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If it's not Pederson they definitely messed up.  SB coaches don't grow on trees.   It would be nice to hire someone before the Senior Bowl.  I'd still rather get the right ones late than the wrong ones early.

That’s the whole point.

They are down to ONE SINGLE VIABLE CANDIDATE after having the most time to find a coach.

That's why I'm pretty confident that Pederson and Spielman will be announced soon.

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Exactly right.

By conducting the search the way they did, they painted themselves into a corner.  Pederson is the only guy who can get them out at this stage.

Even if they hired Pederson tomorrow, it would effectively be too late for them and his staff (whomever it may be) to scout it.

We do have scouts there but i have faith in Spielman to draft some good players.  I'm sure he's been scouting most of these guys the whole college season.  Plus we have the combine coming up

Not in an efficient, effective manner.

If we had a caching staff in place, they could have discussed with the scouts exactly the type of players they are looking for at every position.  They could have conducted interviews with the players to get some insight as to their character, work ethic, etc.

Drafting effectively is hard enough as it is without the added disadvantage of not having a coach (possibly a GM) two days before the Senior Bowl.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

We do have scouts there but i have faith in Spielman to draft some good players.  I'm sure he's been scouting most of these guys the whole college season.  Plus we have the combine coming up

Not in an efficient, effective manner.

If we had a caching staff in place, they could have discussed with the scouts exactly the type of players they are looking for at every position.  They could have conducted interviews with the players to get some insight as to their character, work ethic, etc.

Drafting effectively is hard enough as it is without the added disadvantage of not having a coach (possibly a GM) two days before the Senior Bowl.

No worries, Baalke will be doing the scouting at night on his ipad lol. I agree that I wish we came to an agreement with them earlier. I'm thankful the Vikings fired Spielman, no telling where we would be if that didn't happen.

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Exactly right.

By conducting the search the way they did, they painted themselves into a corner.  Pederson is the only guy who can get them out at this stage.

Even if they hired Pederson tomorrow, it would effectively be too late for them and his staff (whomever it may be) to scout it.

We do have scouts there but i have faith in Spielman to draft some good players.  I'm sure he's been scouting most of these guys the whole college season.  Plus we have the combine coming up

Maybe I'm ignorant about the Senior Bowl, but aren't the most desirable players going to end up leaving early anyway and won't play in this game? You're certainly a better developed and more experienced player after 4 to 5 years in college, but on average the level of talent playing in the Senior Bowl is probably lower than the average level of talent of players leaving early because they're more desired. I guess its good for the later round picks to eval this game? Asking sincerely

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

I like Leftwich but some people here and on twitter are acting like he is a sure thing, is he really? is he really the best HC candidate?

He's a good candidate but he's also a bit of the "shiny new toy" syndrome for Jag fans I think. People were excited about Gus back in the day too. I think it's a safer choice to go with someone with previous HC experience even though Leftwich may end up being a successful HC eventually.

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I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you.

Not in an efficient, effective manner.

If we had a caching staff in place, they could have discussed with the scouts exactly the type of players they are looking for at every position.  They could have conducted interviews with the players to get some insight as to their character, work ethic, etc.

Drafting effectively is hard enough as it is without the added disadvantage of not having a coach (possibly a GM) two days before the Senior Bowl.

No worries, Baalke will be doing the scouting at night on his ipad lol.  I agree that I wish we came to an agreement with them earlier. I'm thankful the Vikings fired Spielman, no telling where we would be if that didn't happen.

If Khan doesn't stop screwing around and get this done, we still won't know where we'll be.

My et guess?

Up [BLEEP] creek without a paddle.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

Now watch the Saints hire Pederson, and we end up with Bisaccia or Fangio.

Or Sioux Bevell

Wait, let me get another bag of popcorn while I enjoy the hysteria.

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Not in an efficient, effective manner.

If we had a caching staff in place, they could have discussed with the scouts exactly the type of players they are looking for at every position.  They could have conducted interviews with the players to get some insight as to their character, work ethic, etc.

Drafting effectively is hard enough as it is without the added disadvantage of not having a coach (possibly a GM) two days before the Senior Bowl.

No worries, Baalke will be doing the scouting at night on his ipad lol.  I agree that I wish we came to an agreement with them earlier. I'm thankful the Vikings fired Spielman, no telling where we would be if that didn't happen.

I'm sure he's already scoped out the top candidates with ACL injuries.

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I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you.

Bisaccia>>>>>Fangio>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bevell

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