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Experts mock draft thread


https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/202...ik-willis/

This for me would be an ideal way to start the draft.
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(04-01-2022, 12:09 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/202...ik-willis/

This for me would be an ideal way to start the draft.

Trading with Atlanta to get their picks in rounds 1, 2 (2 picks) and 3 would be a great. I assume that's what the Jaguars would receive or something very similar. The difficult part would be whom to take with the 8th pick. It would present a real value vs. need dilemma. No doubt, Hamilton and Sauce Gardner would be the best value. With the addition of Darious Williams, the Jaguars have 3 solid options at corner/nickel. Gardner may turn out better than any of them, but can they afford to keep a high-priced player on the bench? The safety position is not as crowded and Hamilton's versatility would enable him to be lined up in a variety of spots. His recent 40 time will likely cause him to drop some, but he is undoubtably a great prospect. The 3rd option would be to grabtheir top choice at wide receiver- with Wilson, London and Williams as possibilities.

No matter which choice they would make, it would be criticized by many. The best option to me would be to take either Gardner or Hamilton at 8 and then use some of the extra picks to move back up into round 1 (20-25 depending on who is available) to take a wide receiver like Williams, Burks or Olave. If it looks like Dotson or Burks will fall out of round 1, I don't trade back up and could then look forward to having 6 picks on day 2. In that scenario, they could get very good players at wide receiver, tight end, Edge, linebacker and offensive line- all positions of need- and still have one more pick as gravy. I'd jump at that trade, especially since I believe Dotson is going to be a very good pro.
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2954...ring-april

1. Hutch
33. Kenyon Green (passing on Pickens and Skakir)
67. Muma
70. Parnham (passing on Skyy Moore)
106. Jayden Peevy
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(04-01-2022, 09:29 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2954...ring-april

1. Hutch
33. Kenyon Green (passing on Pickens and Skakir)
67. Muma
70. Parnham (passing on Skyy Moore)
106. Jayden Peevy

What a screwy, stupid draft. If Devin Lloyd is there at #33, I'm sprinting to the podium and announce him as our pick, as fast as I can before I wake up from the dream I'm having. That's the only way he last that long. I then take Jamaree Salyer with pick #65 and Jelani Woods with pick #70 and Zach Tom at #106. I'm taking the BAP's on my board. For not getting a WR, I'd really like it if the draft turned out this way, even if it isn't realistic at all.
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(04-01-2022, 12:09 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/202...ik-willis/

This for me would be an ideal way to start the draft.

Get Jameson or London instead of Hamilton and I would love this.
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https://twitter.com/gmfb/status/15120271...LjubN7pq_g

https://twitter.com/pfn365/status/151186...LjubN7pq_g

Schrager has Jags taking Hutch while Aaron Wilson has Jags taking Walker. Hutch falls to 7.
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(04-07-2022, 07:48 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: https://twitter.com/gmfb/status/15120271...LjubN7pq_g

https://twitter.com/pfn365/status/151186...LjubN7pq_g

Schrager has Jags taking Hutch while Aaron Wilson has Jags taking Walker. Hutch falls to 7.

There is no way that happens. If we pass on Hutchinson (please God, no!) the Lions will be all over him, like a fly on crap.
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I've seen 4 or 5 "experts" giving us Walker in the last couple of days. Baalke is probably up in his office thinking how funny it would be if he takes two Walkers from Georgia with our first two picks.
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I’m convinced many of the “expert” drafts by tv talking heads are meant for clicks and views. Most of these guys I would not classify as experts anyway. DJ, Bucky, McShay, Schrags, those are guys I think of his experts. Most of the rest are just throwing stuff against the wall to see what will stick.


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(04-07-2022, 10:53 AM)I am Yoda Wrote: I’m convinced many of the “expert” drafts by tv talking heads are meant for clicks and views. Most of these guys I would not classify as experts anyway.  DJ, Bucky, McShay, Schrags, those are guys I think of his experts. Most of the rest are just throwing stuff against the wall to see what will stick.


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Exactly! It's an exercise to see just how one pick (or several) that goes against expectation can alter the makeup of an entire darft.

What good would posting a new mock each week be if they were all the same picks? Nobody is gonna talk about, share, or comment on a mock that runs straight chalk.
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(04-07-2022, 10:30 AM)Upper Wrote: I've seen 4 or 5 "experts" giving us Walker in the last couple of days. Baalke is probably up in his office thinking how funny it would be if he takes two Walkers from Georgia with our first two picks.

https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...Wu1FJ-YvtA
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(This post was last modified: 04-08-2022, 06:30 PM by I am Yoda. Edited 1 time in total. Edit Reason: add info )

John Shipley games a few draft scenarios here:  https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/draft/202...rs-at-no-1.

I like several of the players he mentions.  For example, in one of the scenarios he has us taking LB Troy Anderson in the 3rd.  I don't think Anderson makes it out of round 2. But if either he or Channing Tindall are available in round 3, we should jump on them.

Without trades, I think one ideal draft scenario might be:

#1  Aidan Hutchinson, EDGE
#33  Skyy Moore, WR  Has the speed, shiftiness, and strength to play on the outside even though not ideal height like Steve Smith.
#65  Troy Anderson, LB  The guy is a tackling machine and an explosive player who is always near the ball.
#70  Greg Dulcich, TE
#106  Zach Tom, IOL
#157  Cordell Volson, T

Of course, picks have to fall right.  But I'd be ecstatic to get a haul similar to this.  That would be 3 day one starters and 3 key backups who would get significant snaps during the season.

Another one I like is:
https://pichost.net/img/mockdraft0408.Ns84U
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(04-08-2022, 06:01 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: John Shipley games a few draft scenarios here:  https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/draft/202...rs-at-no-1.

I like several of the players he mentions.  For example, in one of the scenarios he has us taking LB Troy Anderson in the 3rd.  I don't think Anderson makes it out of round 2. But if either he or Channing Tindall are available in round 3, we should jump on them.

Without trades, I think one ideal draft scenario might be:

#1  Aidan Hutchinson, EDGE
#33  Skyy Moore, WR  Has the speed, shiftiness, and strength to play on the outside even though not ideal height like Steve Smith.
#65  Troy Anderson, LB  The guy is a tackling machine and an explosive player who is always near the ball.
#70  Greg Dulcich, TE
#106  Zach Tom, IOL
#157  Cordell Volson, T


Of course, picks have to fall right.  But I'd be ecstatic to get a haul similar to this.  That would be 3 day one starters and 3 key backups who would get significant snaps during the season.

Another one I like is:
https://pichost.net/img/mockdraft0408.Ns84U

I would actually really like that draft. My #1 edge rusher, my #7 WR, my #2 ILB, my #4 TE, my #3 OG/C and my #2 OT.
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I liked Charlie Campbell's mock up over on WalterFootball.com

Hutchinson at DE, Dotson at WR, Dulcich at TE & Brandon Smith at LB out of Penn State. That's not a bad overall haul with those picks. You gained four contributing players early on. Dulcich was pretty smooth at the combine and over the last two years his production got better out of UCLA. He would be a nice player to work in behind Engram and Arnold. Smith is a freak athlete at the LB position. Could probably fit in nicely inside with the 3 - 4 scheme. Dotson offers versatility and quickness/speed. Hutchinson has been touted as the top guy now for quite some time.

I can live with that draft. Scott, I guess who took over at NFLDraftCountdown? He had us snatching up Hutchinson and then Nakobe Dean at 33. Which seems like a pretty damn good steal there. But, then, in RD3? He has them taking another DT out of Ohio St. with Haskel Garrett, which, I don't know a ton about. And then finally an offensive player at OT with Braxton Jones out of Utah, which, again, not sure about. So, meh.
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(This post was last modified: 04-09-2022, 02:31 PM by TheDuke007. Edited 1 time in total.)

(04-01-2022, 01:02 AM)jaglou53 Wrote:
(04-01-2022, 12:09 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/202...ik-willis/

This for me would be an ideal way to start the draft.

Trading with Atlanta to get their picks in rounds 1, 2 (2 picks) and 3 would be a great. I assume that's what the Jaguars would receive or something very similar. The difficult part would be whom to take with the 8th pick. It would present a real value vs. need dilemma. No doubt, Hamilton and Sauce Gardner would be the best value. With the addition of Darious Williams, the Jaguars have 3 solid options at corner/nickel. Gardner may turn out better than any of them, but can they afford to keep a high-priced player on the bench? The safety position is not as crowded and Hamilton's versatility would enable him to be lined up in a variety of spots. His recent 40 time will likely cause him to drop some, but he is undoubtably a great prospect. The 3rd option would be to grabtheir top choice at wide receiver- with Wilson, London and Williams as possibilities.

No matter which choice they would make, it would be criticized by many. The best option to me would be to take either Gardner or Hamilton at 8 and then use some of the extra picks to move back up into round 1 (20-25 depending on who is available) to take a wide receiver like Williams, Burks or Olave. If it looks like Dotson or Burks will fall out of round 1, I don't trade back up and could then look forward to having 6 picks on day 2. In that scenario, they could get very good players at wide receiver, tight end, Edge, linebacker and offensive line- all positions of need- and still have one more pick as gravy. I'd jump at that trade, especially since I believe Dotson is going to be a very good pro.

If we really got that offer, it would be incredible.  I would be inclined to use the 1st rounder on getting the best wide receiver and resolve our biggest need.  The Jaguars would then still have 3 second rounder, 3 third rounders and the top pick in the fourth round.  That's seven picks.  We can use four on offense -- Right Tackle, Center, Guard and Tight End and three on defense -- Edge, Inside Linebacker and Safety.  We would still have 7 picks in round five through seven that can either be used on depth or more likely as part of trade up deals.  We could really solve all of this team's needs and would be very well positioned for future success.
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(This post was last modified: 04-15-2022, 05:07 AM by The Real Marty. Edited 1 time in total.)

This one has the Jags flipping picks with Detroit in exchange for two 3rd round picks.  That would be picks 66 and 97.   That would give us four 3rd round picks.  

Then we take Travon Walker.   I'm not too sure about Travon Walker, but if he's the player the Jags want, then it makes sense for them to do this deal.  

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf...523389002/
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(04-15-2022, 05:04 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: This one has the Jags flipping picks with Detroit in exchange for two 3rd round picks.  That would be picks 66 and 97.   That would give us four 3rd round picks.  

Then we take Travon Walker.   I'm not too sure about Travon Walker, but if he's the player the Jags want, then it makes sense for them to do this deal.  

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf...523389002/

I could dig it. Four picks in the threeth means we would likely make another deal to end up with two picks in the twoth and still a few in the threeth.

If you don't see significant difference between Hutch and Walker, why not? I think this also is predicated on the Lions moving for Hutch. If they want Willis or another QB, they have no reason to move unless Baalke convinces them someone else is trying to move into our slot. Personally, I wouldn't get in a bidding war over Willis, but more power to em!
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(04-15-2022, 05:04 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: This one has the Jags flipping picks with Detroit in exchange for two 3rd round picks.  That would be picks 66 and 97.   That would give us four 3rd round picks.  

Then we take Travon Walker.   I'm not too sure about Travon Walker, but if he's the player the Jags want, then it makes sense for them to do this deal.  

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf...523389002/

I like that scenario, personally.

I haven't done the homework on those DL/pass rushers at #1 or #2  - but I want those extra picks.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/draft/202...final-week

Shipleys final mock.

Kyle Phillips is an interesting 4th round pick.
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(04-22-2022, 09:17 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/draft/202...final-week

Shipleys final mock.

Kyle Phillips is an interesting 4th round pick.

It's a solid if boring mock. Seems like everyone close to the team has Hutch, Quay, Parham as our top 3 picks now.
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