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Trevor Lawrence Discussion (merged)


(10-09-2022, 04:42 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(10-09-2022, 04:39 PM)Predator Wrote: What is below TERRRRIBLE because that is where TL's performance ranks.

TL even screwed up the Hail Mary.
Not disagreeing with that at all. Trevor was really bad today but Davis Mills is a bad QB every week. 

Trevor has had 2 elite performances this season.

Win next week and let’s move on. 

I’m not gonna sit here and complain about him every single week. He’s had really good weeks and bad weeks. Today was a really bad week.


I thought he played great against the Colts but it wasn’t an elite game.


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His max potential is maybe a young Matt Ryan statistically but right now he's playing more like Alex Smith. Which isn't good. Took Alex Smith six years to help lead a dysfunctional franchise to a winning season.

He was never statistically off the charts as well yearly. Lawrence is somewhere in between both for me. A Matt Ryan / Alex Smith type QB. Just not somebody that you can consistently and confidently rely on in close games or trust in the long term.

2 weeks of good QB play washed out by 2 weeks of really, really, really awful QB play this last 2 weeks. Hope he gives us 2 good weeks in a row now. That's probably asking for too much.

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the bright side is he over throws wide open receivers. Imagine him under throwing it…we would be complaining about lake of arm talent.
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(10-09-2022, 04:59 PM)Caldrac Wrote: His max potential is maybe a young Matt Ryan statistically but right now he's playing more like Alex Smith. Which isn't good. Took Alex Smith six years to help lead a dysfunctional franchise to a winning season.

He was never statistically off the charts as well yearly. Lawrence is somewhere in between both for me. A Matt Ryan / Alex Smith type QB. Just not somebody that you can consistently and confidently rely on in close games or trust in the long term.

2 weeks of good QB play washed out by 2 weeks of really, really, really awful QB play this last 2 weeks. Hope he gives us 2 good weeks in a row now. That's probably asking for too much.

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(10-09-2022, 04:57 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote:
(10-09-2022, 04:42 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Not disagreeing with that at all. Trevor was really bad today but Davis Mills is a bad QB every week. 

Trevor has had 2 elite performances this season.

Win next week and let’s move on. 

I’m not gonna sit here and complain about him every single week. He’s had really good weeks and bad weeks. Today was a really bad week.


I thought he played great against the Colts but it wasn’t an elite game.


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Yeah, he played good but far from elite.  Our defense played elite in that game.

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It definately wasn't an good game for TL16.

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I’m done with him. This guy has all the tools and none of the mental abilities to be at the very least an average QB in the NFL. This franchise is cursed.
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(10-09-2022, 04:42 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(10-09-2022, 04:39 PM)Predator Wrote: What is below TERRRRIBLE because that is where TL's performance ranks.

TL even screwed up the Hail Mary.
Not disagreeing with that at all. Trevor was really bad today but Davis Mills is a bad QB every week. 

Trevor has had 2 elite performances this season.

Win next week and let’s move on. 

I’m not gonna sit here and complain about him every single week. He’s had really good weeks and bad weeks. Today was a really bad week.

Sorry, but I am having a hard time taking solace in the fact that our 1st overall pick has had elite performances compared to a 3rd rd pick, especially considering Mills has out played TL in both of their head to head match ups.

Also, Mills has had had a couple of elite performances himself and has played fewer games, so there is even less solace to take with that comparison.


(10-09-2022, 05:01 PM)Dimson Wrote:
(10-09-2022, 04:59 PM)Caldrac Wrote: His max potential is maybe a young Matt Ryan statistically but right now he's playing more like Alex Smith. Which isn't good. Took Alex Smith six years to help lead a dysfunctional franchise to a winning season.

He was never statistically off the charts as well yearly. Lawrence is somewhere in between both for me. A Matt Ryan / Alex Smith type QB. Just not somebody that you can consistently and confidently rely on in close games or trust in the long term.

2 weeks of good QB play washed out by 2 weeks of really, really, really awful QB play this last 2 weeks. Hope he gives us 2 good weeks in a row now. That's probably asking for too much.

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After two seasons many wrote off Josh Allen. Year three, he turned the corner and is now the best QB in the league.

2nd best.  Mahomes is superior.  But your point stands.

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(10-09-2022, 05:11 PM)Predator Wrote:
(10-09-2022, 04:42 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Not disagreeing with that at all. Trevor was really bad today but Davis Mills is a bad QB every week. 

Trevor has had 2 elite performances this season.

Win next week and let’s move on. 

I’m not gonna sit here and complain about him every single week. He’s had really good weeks and bad weeks. Today was a really bad week.

Sorry, but I am having a hard time taking solace in the fact that our 1st overall pick has had a couple of elite performances compared to a 3rd rd pick, especially considering Mills has out played TL in both of their head to head match ups.

Hes 3-0 against Lawrence.


(10-09-2022, 04:59 PM)tkappa511 Wrote: the bright side is he over throws wide open receivers.  Imagine him under throwing it…we would be complaining about lake of arm talent.

But the balls are in the players hands... maybe a little high but if it touches the receivers hands then they need to catch it


I'm not done with him but damn I have some reservations. I really chalked last year up to Urban but this year there's no excuse. 1st overall pick you gotta play better then he has.
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(10-09-2022, 05:09 PM)copycat Wrote: I’m done with him.  This guy has all the tools and none of the mental abilities to be at the very least an average QB in the NFL.  This franchise is cursed.

Bawaaaha seriously....ya because the 15 dropped passes on the last two drives....oh wait all game....ya the interception in the end zone was bad....but play calling was worse....and how about a defense that in two close games allowed the  opposing team to march down the field for the game winning drive....that's right Washington and now Texans.... couldn't stop them when it really mattered...stop Washington we win....stop Texans and all we need is a FG

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(10-09-2022, 05:12 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(10-09-2022, 05:11 PM)Predator Wrote: Sorry, but I am having a hard time taking solace in the fact that our 1st overall pick has had a couple of elite performances compared to a 3rd rd pick, especially considering Mills has out played TL in both of their head to head match ups.

Hes 3-0 against Lawrence.

Tyrod Taylor played the first game against us last year.

(10-09-2022, 05:01 PM)Dimson Wrote:
(10-09-2022, 04:59 PM)Caldrac Wrote: His max potential is maybe a young Matt Ryan statistically but right now he's playing more like Alex Smith. Which isn't good. Took Alex Smith six years to help lead a dysfunctional franchise to a winning season.

He was never statistically off the charts as well yearly. Lawrence is somewhere in between both for me. A Matt Ryan / Alex Smith type QB. Just not somebody that you can consistently and confidently rely on in close games or trust in the long term.

2 weeks of good QB play washed out by 2 weeks of really, really, really awful QB play this last 2 weeks. Hope he gives us 2 good weeks in a row now. That's probably asking for too much.

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After two seasons many wrote off Josh Allen. Year three, he turned the corner and is now the best QB in the league.

We can hope he takes the development path of Josh Allen because he sure isn't following the path of Mahomes.


(10-09-2022, 05:01 PM)Dimson Wrote:
(10-09-2022, 04:59 PM)Caldrac Wrote: His max potential is maybe a young Matt Ryan statistically but right now he's playing more like Alex Smith. Which isn't good. Took Alex Smith six years to help lead a dysfunctional franchise to a winning season.

He was never statistically off the charts as well yearly. Lawrence is somewhere in between both for me. A Matt Ryan / Alex Smith type QB. Just not somebody that you can consistently and confidently rely on in close games or trust in the long term.

2 weeks of good QB play washed out by 2 weeks of really, really, really awful QB play this last 2 weeks. Hope he gives us 2 good weeks in a row now. That's probably asking for too much.

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After two seasons many wrote off Josh Allen. Year three, he turned the corner and is now the best QB in the league.
Lawrence is not Allen. Sorry. What Allen lacked in accuracy and decision making earlier in his career he made up for it with his running ability and toughness when taking hits. Something Lawrence just doesn't either have at this level or is too chicken [BLEEP] to showcase for some reason.

Also, 2nd year Josh Allen went 10 - 6 and only turned the ball over 13 times in 16 games. With 9 being INT's and 4 being fumbles. Lawrence is already at 8 turnovers in 5 games. With 7 of those turnovers coming in the last 2 games.

That's concerning.

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(10-09-2022, 05:49 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(10-09-2022, 05:01 PM)Dimson Wrote: After two seasons many wrote off Josh Allen. Year three, he turned the corner and is now the best QB in the league.
Lawrence is not Allen. Sorry. What Allen lacked in accuracy and decision making earlier in his career he made up for it with his running ability and toughness when taking hits. Something Lawrence just doesn't either have at this level or is too chicken [BLEEP] to showcase for some reason.

Also, 2nd year Josh Allen went 10 - 6 and only turned the ball over 13 times in 16 games. With 9 being INT's and 4 being fumbles. Lawrence is already at 8 turnovers in 5 games. With 7 of those turnovers coming in the last 2 games.

That's concerning.

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Allen had 7 Ints 5 fumbles with 2 lost in the first 5 games of his second year.

Also one of TL's Ints was on a Hail Mary, even though it was a horribly thrown Hail Mary, that really only counts on the stat sheet and isn't reflective of the QB.

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(10-09-2022, 05:52 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [Image: k3z5fj1agus91.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&a...e47aa4c98d]

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That's pretty funny, but what exactly is that creature representing the Hail Mary? Looks like half the torso is missing. Something there is anatomically incorrect.
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(10-09-2022, 05:52 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [Image: k3z5fj1agus91.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&a...e47aa4c98d]

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Oh yeah, your really pissed off.

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(10-09-2022, 05:58 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote:
(10-09-2022, 05:52 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [Image: k3z5fj1agus91.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&a...e47aa4c98d]

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That's pretty funny, but what exactly is that creature representing the Hail Mary?  Looks like half the torso is missing.  Something there is anatomically incorrect.

Kinda like how Lawrence can throw a 100 MPH fast ball to his RB in the flat that causes drops but with a full windup threw a 30 yard hail marry, that the entire defense/offense had to run back for. 

That hail marry reminded me of that Gabbert to Cecil Shorts play where he was wide open but cecil had to stop and come back for the ball and everyone said that was a punt pass lol.

(10-09-2022, 05:59 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(10-09-2022, 05:52 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [Image: k3z5fj1agus91.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&a...e47aa4c98d]

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Oh yeah, your really pissed off.

Well I tried to point out reasons we suck and discuss the team but i'm called a troll, so I figured i'd just share some lighthearted memes from the jaguars reddit.




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