This is even bigger than just Pedersson going for two.  This is going to be huge for the team buying in to the system. Pederson with the call also displayed to the team he believes in them.  This team is going in the right direction. I think the Jaguars will be a real threat next year.  What a gritty win!

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3 games behind tacks and we playem twice…

Hmmm

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That's awesome

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Next year, win out and we're in baby !

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I don't see how it was a question. First, we're three and bleeping seven. Go. For. Two. Cripes, the Bolts did the same thing, and they have postseason as a much more realistic expectation. They probably didn't NEED to go for two in their game, but Staley is just as much a number-cruncher as Doug, and risked his rep on the bold move, with equal results.

Second, I don't trust the D to get a stop in OT. Lamar was a one-man army, and probably could have walked down the field to 6 if we don't win the OT toss.

It was a defining moment, but I can't imagine Doug being so conservative that he even considered playing for OT in that situation.

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This is why Pederson is a Super Bowl head coach. He is always saying it Players and not Plays. He is always deferring to his players. He's the ultimate leader. He puts his MEN first and he let's them shine. That's why they all will run through a wall for him.

But you'd have to be a grade A moron attending Bovine University if you think Pederson was gonna let the game go into OT. That's not Pederson's MO.

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^-- good point, saying the players convinced him to go for it gives them the limelight as the heroes instead of furthering the narrative that he is a savvy, calculating gambler.

Even if he knew in his heart of hearts he was gonna go for it, giving them the chance to claim the credit goes a long way to boosting morale.

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^-- good point, saying the players convinced him to go for it gives them the limelight as the heroes instead of furthering the narrative that he is a savvy, calculating gambler.

Even if he knew in his heart of hearts he was gonna go for it, giving them the chance to claim the credit goes a long way to boosting morale.

He's been around players and has learned about motivating them for a long time now. 

Regardless of how convinced he was or wasn't about going for two - he undoubtedly heard players wanting to go for it on the sideline and steered the credit their way.

He knows what he is doing.

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Take all the blame, give all the credit. Leadership 101.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

To wit:

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Imagine we did all that, and we lose to a record breaking 67 yard field goal. Can we not with the damn pooch kicks that always give the opp the ball at the 40.

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Imagine we did all that, and we lose to a record breaking 67 yard field goal. Can we not with the damn pooch kicks that always give the opp the ball at the 40.

"Squib" is a type of kick designed to prevent long returns by putting it in the hands of a less agile returner.

"Pooch" is a type of punt utilized when too near the opponents goal line to punt with normal trajectory and velocity.

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Imagine we did all that, and we lose to a record breaking 67 yard field goal. Can we not with the damn pooch kicks that always give the opp the ball at the 40.

Yeah the squib kicks gotta go. Bury them at their own 25 with 14 seconds to go.

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Imagine we did all that, and we lose to a record breaking 67 yard field goal. Can we not with the damn pooch kicks that always give the opp the ball at the 40.

"Squib" is a type of kick designed to prevent long returns by putting it in the hands of a less agile returner.

"Pooch" is a type of punt utilized when too near the opponents goal line to punt with normal trajectory and velocity.

I think they also wanted to take some time off the clock.

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"Squib" is a type of kick designed to prevent long returns by putting it in the hands of a less agile returner.

"Pooch" is a type of punt utilized when too near the opponents goal line to punt with normal trajectory and velocity.

I think they also wanted to take some time off the clock.

Agreed.

It's a sound strategy. Especially against a legit returner. (no idea if the ravens have one or not) 

Sometimes it results in giving up 10 more yards of field position. I can live with these calls from the STC.

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I think they also wanted to take some time off the clock.

Agreed.

It's a sound strategy. Especially against a legit returner. (no idea if the ravens have one or not) 

Sometimes it results in giving up 10 more yards of field position. I can live with these calls from the STC.

One reason in particular that I believe it was better for the Jaguars to try to take some time off the clock, with a non-conventional Kickoff, is the ability of Lamar Jackson to extend plays.  The actual squib kick by Riley Patterson very likely wasn't as effective as the coaches involved with the decision were anticipating.  But the 4 seconds taken off the clock, even factoring in the extra 14 yards the Ravens gained on the Kickoff, could have been the difference in Jackson attempting and completing a throw that was long enough for Justin Tucker to kick the Game Winning FG.

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Imagine we did all that, and we lose to a record breaking 67 yard field goal. Can we not with the damn pooch kicks that always give the opp the ball at the 40.

I get why he did that, trying to burn a few more seconds off the clock. It ended up working too.

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"Squib" is a type of kick designed to prevent long returns by putting it in the hands of a less agile returner.

"Pooch" is a type of punt utilized when too near the opponents goal line to punt with normal trajectory and velocity.

I think they also wanted to take some time off the clock.

I don't like squib kicks.  It only took 4 seconds off the clock and we gave them the best field position of any kickoff all day.  I would have just kicked it deep.

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I think they also wanted to take some time off the clock.

I don't like squib kicks.  It only took 4 seconds off the clock and we gave them the best field position of any kickoff all day.  I would have just kicked it deep.

agreed

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I think they also wanted to take some time off the clock.

I don't like squib kicks.  It only took 4 seconds off the clock and we gave them the best field position of any kickoff all day.  I would have just kicked it deep.

As D6 mentioned in another thread - 4 seconds is the difference between Lamar being under clock pressure to complete a sideline pass and having time to scramble/improvise and connect downfield within FG range. 

The average pocket time for QBs is 2.5 seconds.  
4 seconds of clock time for a great-mobility QB like Lamar to scramble and look downfield is an eternity in that perspective. 

Our pass rush  - while in prevent mode -  was not going to hit him in 3 seconds. 
We can all do the math and weigh the possibilities  but the squib make slots of sense in that scenario. 

And believe me - I HATE defending countermeasures like squibs. I just really get it in this scenario.

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