Gus Bradley is likely a contributing factor to free agents signing with the Jags.  While I don't think he's going to convince someone who would otherwise never come to the Jags, to do so.  I think he most certainly contributes to players deciding between Jacksonville and other locations.  If Jacksonville is on their radar - Bradley could very well be what makes them pick Jacksonville over somewhere else.

I think we should just end the thread with this.

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So you are suggesting Beadles was lying? Interesting.

 

Lying? no. Playing it up for his new employer/ new fans? Yep. They all do. This isn't news. 

 

When he left Denver he tweeted it was a "business decision". How else do you interpret that?

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He was making 16 MIL per in his last contract.

 

A 1 year "show me" deal is far from ridiculous. Its a smart move. Revis had other suitors and most likely teams willing to pay multi year & more guaranteed money. Belichick "closed" the deal. 

I don't see any proof that Belichick was the deciding factor for Revis.  He 'most likely' had teams willing to pay multi year & more guaranteed money?  Honestly, I doubt it.  Maybe teams that weren't contenders.  Revis getting up there likely wants to chase a championship.  I doubt that Belichick was much of any factor.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

"Broken?"

 

I don't know if I'd go quite that far.

 

Even last year, he played well, even if not quite up to his standards.

 

Now he is a year plus past his ACL injury.  He should be fine.

 

You have to wonder though; with Revis' history of being chronically disappointed with his contract, just what did New England get themselves into? I think Revis is going to be a fine player for them, but what happens next season? Because if/when he shines for them it makes sense that he is going to want another contract similar to what he just lost when he was cut by Tampa Bay.

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

Eh you got to go off the report though. You got to give Bradley some credit based on that.


Not a guy I would brag about closing, but he did according to the report.

 

I am giving Bradley some credit. Look at what I wrote again. I said that I am sure Beadles liked/ was impressed by Bradley up there. Doesn't equate to him being "the closer" though, not when comparative offers with similar Guards suggest the Jags $$$ offer to Beadles topped 'em. ANd theres also the Beadles "business decision" comments as he was leaving Denver, as mentioned before.

 

That "signature" signing that you could point to Bradley has not happened yet, IMO.

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So the fact that it "busted" is irrelevant as long as they go after names you recognize? Gotcha. 

 

That was obvious from the start.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

I guess my question is why shouldn't the Jaguars bring in a bunch of Seattle guys?

 

Given the huge difference in talent between Seattle and Jacksonville over the past few years, and given there is bound to be a lot of turnover on the Jaguars side due to the lack of talent, why should the Jaguars be penalized in any analysis because Bradley and Caldwell are bringing in Seattle alum?

 

Those players have been more productive than the guys the Jaguars have had here.

 

They know the scheme and Bradley knows them, their work ethic, etc.

 

Are a couple of the guys (Bryant & Clemons) a little older than the ideal free agent age?  Sure.

 

But if they help to implement the system here, and if they improve the performance of the team, and they aren't cost prohibitive, why not?

 

Many similarly situated coaches would do the same thing.

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That was obvious from the start.

Again, wasn't saying I would have done it. But the guy said that the Ravens had never signed a high profile FA. Yeah, they did, I just pointed it out.

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"Broken?"

 

I don't know if I'd go quite that far.

 

Even last year, he played well, even if not quite up to his standards.

 

Now he is a year plus past his ACL injury.  He should be fine.

 

He'll never be who he was, that's for sure.  There's so much infatuation with the name.

 

I wouldn't expect too much.  So much of his game relied on his peak physical self, which he isn't any longer.  It's why he got a one year deal, and accepted it.  How much he'll be off his old game is the question to be answered.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

Gus Bradley is likely a contributing factor to free agents signing with the Jags.  While I don't think he's going to convince someone who would otherwise never come to the Jags, to do so.  I think he most certainly contributes to players deciding between Jacksonville and other locations.  If Jacksonville is on their radar - Bradley could very well be what makes them pick Jacksonville over somewhere else.

 

"Contributing" factor? I don't disagree with that. ANd the better the Jags can get, will only improve Bradley's impact in this realm. 

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You have to wonder though; with Revis' history of being chronically disappointed with his contract, just what did New England get themselves into? I think Revis is going to be a fine player for them, but what happens next season? Because if/when he shines for them it makes sense that he is going to want another contract similar to what he just lost when he was cut by Tampa Bay.

 

Well, the good news for them is it's just a one year deal.

 

They won't be hamstrung long term if he is somehow a malcontent.

 

If he performs well, and Brady and Belicheck decide to stick around past this season, they could always re-sign him.

 

If he performs well, and is a complete jerk about his contract and a locker room cancer, they can get rid of him easily.

 

If he doesn't perform well and is a jerk, they can dump him easily.

 

If Brady and/or Belicheck decide to leave after this year, then they can let him go knowing there will be a long term rebuild.

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I guess my question is why shouldn't the Jaguars bring in a bunch of Seattle guys?

 

Given the huge difference in talent between Seattle and Jacksonville over the past few years, and given there is bound to be a lot of turnover on the Jaguars side due to the lack of talent, why should the Jaguars be penalized in any analysis because Bradley and Caldwell are bringing in Seattle alum?

 

Those players have been more productive than the guys the Jaguars have had here.

 

They know the scheme and Bradley knows them, their work ethic, etc.

 

Are a couple of the guys (Bryant & Clemons) a little older than the ideal free agent age?  Sure.

 

But if they help to implement the system here, and if they improve the performance of the team, and they aren't cost prohibitive, why not?

 

Many similarly situated coaches would do the same thing.

 

Know the need, know the guy you can get to fill the need.  It's the right thing to do.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

I guess my question is why shouldn't the Jaguars bring in a bunch of Seattle guys?

 

Given the huge difference in talent between Seattle and Jacksonville over the past few years, and given there is bound to be a lot of turnover on the Jaguars side due to the lack of talent, why should the Jaguars be penalized in any analysis because Bradley and Caldwell are bringing in Seattle alum?

 

Those players have been more productive than the guys the Jaguars have had here.

 

They know the scheme and Bradley knows them, their work ethic, etc.

 

Are a couple of the guys (Bryant & Clemons) a little older than the ideal free agent age?  Sure.

 

But if they help to implement the system here, and if they improve the performance of the team, and they aren't cost prohibitive, why not?

 

Many similarly situated coaches would do the same thing.

 

I have no problem with bringing in former players of Gus'. Especially when they are good and contributed to a winner. 

 

Its far from uncommon to see players follow a liked coach to his new team. 

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He'll never be who he was, that's for sure.  There's so much infatuation with the name.

 

I wouldn't expect too much.  So much of his game relied on his peak physical self, which he isn't any longer.  It's why he got a one year deal, and accepted it.  How much he'll be off his old game is the question to be answered.

 

Well...we'll see if he won't return to what he was.

 

Personally, while I do not wish injury upon players and I like him as a player, I hope he shows dramatic decline because he is on a team NOT named the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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What player outside of the Seattle guys can we point to we can say without other factor - that "Bradley" closed?


Toby likely chose us because of opportunity.

Get informed. Gerhart was quite clear hat Gus was a significant factor in his choosing Jax over other teams. Watson said the same.


Still don't know why the whiners thought Caldwell would spend on a tier 1 FA. He must have said twenty times that he wouldn't. You guys are desperate to whine.


All this griping about Beadles:

Dude gave up 2.5 sacks in 32 games. Think he's not an upgrade over uche, rackley etc. ?


The fireworks are coming in May.

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Get informed. Gerhart was quite clear hat Gus was a significant factor in his choosing Jax over other teams. Watson said the same.

 

 

 

Oh, so are you suggesting that had the Jags RB situation been clogged and there was no clear path to the starting gig, you think Toby would have still chose us, because of Gus?.....You're the one telling others to "get informed"?....Use your head. Think. 

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Having had the privilege to be at several fan forums with Gus, I can guarantee you that he most certainly affects people in a way that is hard to describe. You can literally feel his passion and sincerity emanating from him as he speaks to and interacts with people. There is zero doubt in my mind that with most other things being equal Gus definitely helps to close deals.

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Looking to troll? Don't bother, we supply our own.

 

 

Oh, so are you suggesting that had the Jags RB situation been clogged and there was no clear path to the starting gig, you think Toby would have still chose us, because of Gus?.....You're the one telling others to "get informed"?....Use your head. Think. 

Stop trying to spin it.  Player after player keep echoing the same sentiment about Gus.  Just accept the fact that players want to play for the guy.  They do. 

 

I'm not calling him a "closer" - but he's an asset in acquiring talent. That's real.  Yes, he has appeal over some other coaches out there to free agents.  Why is that such a tough thing not to hate on??  SMH. 

 

 Yawn at the knee-jerker telling me to think.  I'm 2 steps ahead of you and you are woefully uninformed on what players are saying about Gus

 

Still ignoring the point about Dave's FA philosophy I see. Figures.  .

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Stop trying to spin it.  Player after player keep echoing the same sentiment about Gus.  Just accept the fact that players want to play for the guy.  They do. 

 

I'm not calling him a "closer" - but he's an asset in acquiring talent. That's real.  Yes, he has appeal over some other coaches out there to free agents.  Why is that such a tough thing not to hate on??  SMH. 

 

 Yawn at the knee-jerker telling me to think.  I'm 2 steps ahead of you and you are woefully uninformed on what players are saying about Gus.

 

I'm not uninformed. I'm just not taking their lip service/ rhetoric as literal as you are. I'm going by the factors, too, i.e. contract/ opportunity for bigger roles/ etc etc. Players "shmooze" the new fans/ employer all the time. I'm sure some of it is genuine and they do like Bradley, so lets not act as if I'm saying they don't....but we still have seen little to label Bradley the nickname suggested in the OP. 

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Again, wasn't saying I would have done it. But the guy said that the Ravens had never signed a high profile FA. Yeah, they did, I just pointed it out.

Reading not your strong suit?

 

What i said was no team has signed a top level FA AND THEN GONE ON TO WIN THE SB. And that statement is true.

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