Carr will be released by the Raiders today or the Raiders would have to pay Carr $40m to sit the bench next season.  Since the Raiders have backed themselves into a corner, Carr stated that he will NOT waive his no trade clause, essentially forcing the Raiders to cut him rather than trade him (as apparently they had a deal worked out with the Saints).

Smart move --- by not waiving his no trade clause, Carr not only gets to play the market to multiple teams, he will also go to a team that did not have to relinquish any of their draft picks to obtain him.

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Carr is the most "Meh" player of all time.

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I've been reading that the Saints are the frontrunners because he likes Allen. And a good division to go to, considering the Bucs and Falcons are now in rebuild mode. Probably the only team they would have to get through to win the division would be the Panthers.

But yes, he has a rare situation where he has a lot of very lucrative options as a player.

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

At this point in his career, Carr is like Matt Ryan was in 2021. Some desperate team is gonna think he still has enough in the tank to make them a contender, but the reality is that he was a slightly better than average QB who's best days are behind him and he is on a sharp decline. At this point, I really don't know if he offers the Saints anything more than Andy Dalton did last year, but being so far over the cap and picking so late in the first round, they are pretty much in a no win situation. Maybe the best thing for New Orleans to do would be to keep the status quo at QB, take their lumps in 2023 and position themselves to draft one of the top QB's in 2024, although I haven't bothered to even look who is projected to be a top QB in 2024.

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At this point in his career, Carr is like Matt Ryan was in 2021. Some desperate team is gonna think he still has enough in the tank to make them a contender, but the reality is that he was a slightly better than average QB who's best days are behind him and he is on a sharp decline. At this point, I really don't know if he offers the Saints anything more than Andy Dalton did last year, but being so far over the cap and picking so late in the first round, they are pretty much in a no win situation. Maybe the best thing for New Orleans to do would be to keep the status quo at QB, take their lumps in 2023 and position themselves to draft one of the top QB's in 2024, although I haven't bothered to even look who is projected to be a top QB in 2024.

Carr is six years younger than Ryan so I think that is a bad analogy.  And I don’t see this ‘sharp decline’.

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At this point in his career, Carr is like Matt Ryan was in 2021. Some desperate team is gonna think he still has enough in the tank to make them a contender, but the reality is that he was a slightly better than average QB who's best days are behind him and he is on a sharp decline. At this point, I really don't know if he offers the Saints anything more than Andy Dalton did last year, but being so far over the cap and picking so late in the first round, they are pretty much in a no win situation. Maybe the best thing for New Orleans to do would be to keep the status quo at QB, take their lumps in 2023 and position themselves to draft one of the top QB's in 2024, although I haven't bothered to even look who is projected to be a top QB in 2024.

USC QB Caleb Williams is currently slated to declare and go No. 1 in 2024.

I think Carr is bit better than Dalton was when he was with Cinci. Problem is that the league has doubled down on passing offense since that time.

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At this point in his career, Carr is like Matt Ryan was in 2021. Some desperate team is gonna think he still has enough in the tank to make them a contender, but the reality is that he was a slightly better than average QB who's best days are behind him and he is on a sharp decline. At this point, I really don't know if he offers the Saints anything more than Andy Dalton did last year, but being so far over the cap and picking so late in the first round, they are pretty much in a no win situation. Maybe the best thing for New Orleans to do would be to keep the status quo at QB, take their lumps in 2023 and position themselves to draft one of the top QB's in 2024, although I haven't bothered to even look who is projected to be a top QB in 2024.

Carr is six years younger than Ryan so I think that is a bad analogy.  And I don’t see this ‘sharp decline’.

Age doesn't make a difference. Some guys decline a lot quicker than others. Carr was never to the level Matt Ryan was in his peak.

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At this point in his career, Carr is like Matt Ryan was in 2021. Some desperate team is gonna think he still has enough in the tank to make them a contender, but the reality is that he was a slightly better than average QB who's best days are behind him and he is on a sharp decline. At this point, I really don't know if he offers the Saints anything more than Andy Dalton did last year, but being so far over the cap and picking so late in the first round, they are pretty much in a no win situation. Maybe the best thing for New Orleans to do would be to keep the status quo at QB, take their lumps in 2023 and position themselves to draft one of the top QB's in 2024, although I haven't bothered to even look who is projected to be a top QB in 2024.

USC QB Caleb Williams is currently slated to declare and go No. 1 in 2024.

I think Carr is bit better than Dalton was when he was with Cinci. Problem is that the league has doubled down on passing offense since that time.

Williams looked pretty impressive last season.

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Carr is six years younger than Ryan so I think that is a bad analogy.  And I don’t see this ‘sharp decline’.

Age doesn't make a difference. Some guys decline a lot quicker than others. Carr was never to the level Matt Ryan was in his peak.

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USC QB Caleb Williams is currently slated to declare and go No. 1 in 2024.

I think Carr is bit better than Dalton was when he was with Cinci. Problem is that the league has doubled down on passing offense since that time.

Williams looked pretty impressive last season.

As I said, I don’t see this supposed sharp decline.

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Car is a solid qb. He could help a team get to the playoffs. Maybe he reminds me of an Eli Manning. Solid not great.

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Age doesn't make a difference. Some guys decline a lot quicker than others. Carr was never to the level Matt Ryan was in his peak.

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Williams looked pretty impressive last season.

As I said, I don’t see this supposed sharp decline.

I did. His completion percentage was down almost a full 8% from the previous season. His passing yards were down almost 1300 yards from the previous year and worst of all, he threw key interceptions at the most inopportune moments.

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As I said, I don’t see this supposed sharp decline.

I did. His completion percentage was down almost a full 8% from the previous season. His passing yards were down almost 1300 yards from the previous year and worst of all, he threw key interceptions at the most inopportune moments.

LOL.  I can read stats too.  Perhaps you should look at his entire career.  If anything, 2021 was the outlier.  He was essentially the same QB last year that he’s been for his entire career.

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Carr, in the right situation, could probably do something similar to what Tannehill did for the tacks in 2019-2021.

There will be a few teams lining up for that. He's likely to get paid exorbitantly to ultimately look good but not great with a few too many mistakes to make a run.

Protection and weapons will be the keys to success. He needs them a bit more than a number of guys ahead of him in pro-QB-land.

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Carr, in the right situation, could probably do something similar to what Tannehill did for the tacks in 2019-2021.

There will be a few teams lining up for that. He's likely to get paid exorbitantly to ultimately look good but not great with a few too many mistakes to make a run.

Protection and weapons will be the keys to success. He needs them a bit more than a number of guys ahead of him in pro-QB-land.

I’ve always thought that Carr was extremely overrated.  I think he’s a mid-tier QB.  He needs to be in a really good situation to succeed.  He’s never been a QB that could carry a team on a consistent basis.

That said, to say he’s in some sort of steep decline is a bit ridiculous.  Which was/is my point all along.

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Carr, in the right situation, could probably do something similar to what Tannehill did for the tacks in 2019-2021.

There will be a few teams lining up for that. He's likely to get paid exorbitantly to ultimately look good but not great with a few too many mistakes to make a run.

Protection and weapons will be the keys to success. He needs them a bit more than a number of guys ahead of him in pro-QB-land.

I’ve always thought that Carr was extremely overrated.  I think he’s a mid-tier QB.  He needs to be in a really good situation to succeed.  He’s never been a QB that could carry a team on a consistent basis.

That said, to say he’s in some sort of steep decline is a bit ridiculous.  Which was/is my point all along.

I thought he was overrated, then he impressed me a bit, then he fell back in line with my previous impression.

I think a good situation could "resurrect" him to upper mid-tier with a strong supporting cast, but he probably won't be worth the money spent

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Carr is almost certainly the guy that replaced Andy Dalton in the Dalton line. If your QB is better than Carr you're probably happy for the foreseeable future, if he's below him then you need to find a replacement.

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I know Jets are hardcore on Rodgers but think Carr would do good there also.

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I’ve always thought that Carr was extremely overrated.  I think he’s a mid-tier QB.  He needs to be in a really good situation to succeed.  He’s never been a QB that could carry a team on a consistent basis.

That said, to say he’s in some sort of steep decline is a bit ridiculous.  Which was/is my point all along.

I thought he was overrated, then he impressed me a bit, then he fell back in line with my previous impression.

I think a good situation could "resurrect" him to upper mid-tier with a strong supporting cast, but he probably won't be worth the money spent

Hence my ‘on a consistent basis’ remark.   

I’m not sure if he’s ever put together a full season that would make me say ‘he’s the guy’.  He started out this season looking fantastic, and ends the season on the bench.

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Large amount of Packers fans seen keen on getting as much draft capital as they can for Rodgers and Love taking Carr and drafting a rookie ... And to be fair it doesn't seem a bad idea ... 

I doubt he'd be keen on the drafting a rookie bit though and I'd probably just about take Garropolo if it was a straight shootout too

Personally I could see Carr landing somewhere in the AFC South next year

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Large amount of Packers fans seen keen on getting as much draft capital as they can for Rodgers and Love taking Carr and drafting a rookie ... And to be fair it doesn't seem a bad idea ... 

Have you seen his stats in cold weather?  You might think differently.

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I thought he was overrated, then he impressed me a bit, then he fell back in line with my previous impression.

I think a good situation could "resurrect" him to upper mid-tier with a strong supporting cast, but he probably won't be worth the money spent

Hence my ‘on a consistent basis’ remark.   

I’m not sure if he’s ever put together a full season that would make me say ‘he’s the guy’.  He started out this season looking fantastic, and ends the season on the bench.

When the Jags signed Zay Jones last year, I went and found cut ups on YouTube of every single pass thrown to him by Derek Carr. 

There were LOTS of really ugly misses. Some were under duress, some were tough throws his coordinator probably should have known better about,  but many were so bad I had a bout of Bortles era PTSD and sought medication to soothe my nerves.

It's those throws that would make me think twice about paying him big, though someone is almost certain to do it anyway.
Again.

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