Here's hoping that Trevor is going to play the long game with us and agree to a team-friendly contract.

If I were a superstar QB, I'd negotiate some long term ownership stake in the franchise I was looking to sign a 2nd big contract with. Keep it low cash wise, but play the long game with increased value of the team over time.

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Here's hoping that Trevor is going to play the long game with us and agree to a team-friendly contract.

If I were a superstar QB, I'd negotiate some long term ownership stake in the franchise I was looking to sign a 2nd big contract with.  Keep it low cash wise, but play the long game with increased value of the team over time.

I can see this now. Since ownership has to be voted on by the other owners ... An owner trying to get the votes to allow this. "I want you to vote for this so I can avoid the salary cap"

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Here's hoping that Trevor is going to play the long game with us and agree to a team-friendly contract.

If I were a superstar QB, I'd negotiate some long term ownership stake in the franchise I was looking to sign a 2nd big contract with. Keep it low cash wise, but play the long game with increased value of the team over time.

That would be illegal.

Now if Khan were to pay him millions to be a spokesman for his bumper company, AEW, etc then I don't think they can stop it.

A team friendly deal would probably add more awards and hopefully superbowls which will increase endorsements for the rest of his life. Making extra 10-15 million now would be losing a lot in the future if the team wins.

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Mahomes is the one for qbs to want to emulate when it comes to winning and signing a team friendly contract I suppose.

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Baltimore looks like they knew what they were doing all along. Jackson looks foolish now. He would have all of that to himself as well without having to give a percentage to an agent.

They are virtually the same exact QB with the same exact style. Only difference is that Hurts was able to get it done in the post season whereas Jackson has yet to pull off anything special in that regard. 

I would go in and give him an offer anywhere between 3-5% less across the board that Hurts got for the reasons cited above.

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Jackson is like a right handed Mike Vic. I think Vic was probably a better passer though.

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Jalen Hurts may be really good, it's so hard to tell because he might have the best WR-WR-TE-OL combination in the sport. Same for Tua. Guess we shall see if it pays off for them.

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https://twitter.com/sgellison/status/164...92228?s=20

Baltimore looks like they knew what they were doing all along. Jackson looks foolish now. He would have all of that to himself as well without having to give a percentage to an agent.

They are virtually the same exact QB with the same exact style. Only difference is that Hurts was able to get it done in the post season whereas Jackson has yet to pull off anything special in that regard. 

I would go in and give him an offer anywhere between 3-5% less across the board that Hurts got for the reasons cited above.

Idk if i'd go that far, If running the ball was taken out of the equation I think Hurts has a much better arm.

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Jalen Hurts may be really good, it's so hard to tell because he might have the best WR-WR-TE-OL combination in the sport. Same for Tua. Guess we shall see if it pays off for them.

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Baltimore looks like they knew what they were doing all along. Jackson looks foolish now. He would have all of that to himself as well without having to give a percentage to an agent.

They are virtually the same exact QB with the same exact style. Only difference is that Hurts was able to get it done in the post season whereas Jackson has yet to pull off anything special in that regard. 

I would go in and give him an offer anywhere between 3-5% less across the board that Hurts got for the reasons cited above.

Idk if i'd go that far, If running the ball was taken out of the equation I think Hurts has a much better arm.

I am looking at it from a pocket QB's perspective. Neither guy really moves the needle all that much for me. A lot of guys can have an arm but still suck at hitting their targets. 

66.5% on 460 pass attempts in an offense designed to keep the running game as the focal point to free up the easy stuff underneath is not that impressive to me. Lamar is the same exact QB in that regard as well. 

With that said. Jalen had a good game in the Superbowl. Had he not fumbled that football that spotted the Chiefs an easy six and PAT the game could have had a different outcome. It happens. 

My concern would be how much longer the Eagles can maintain their current offensive line though.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Jalen Hurts may be really good, it's so hard to tell because he might have the best WR-WR-TE-OL combination in the sport. Same for Tua. Guess we shall see if it pays off for them.

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Idk if i'd go that far, If running the ball was taken out of the equation I think Hurts has a much better arm.

I am looking at it from a pocket QB's perspective. Neither guy really moves the needle all that much for me. A lot of guys can have an arm but still suck at hitting their targets. 

66.5% on 460 pass attempts in an offense designed to keep the running game as the focal point to free up the easy stuff underneath is not that impressive to me. Lamar is the same exact QB in that regard as well. 

With that said. Jalen had a good game in the Superbowl. Had he not fumbled that football that spotted the Chiefs an easy six and PAT the game could have had a different outcome. It happens. 

My concern would be how much longer the Eagles can maintain their current offensive line though.

Depends on how well they draft.

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https://twitter.com/sgellison/status/164...92228?s=20

Baltimore looks like they knew what they were doing all along. Jackson looks foolish now. He would have all of that to himself as well without having to give a percentage to an agent.

They are virtually the same exact QB with the same exact style. Only difference is that Hurts was able to get it done in the post season whereas Jackson has yet to pull off anything special in that regard. 

I would go in and give him an offer anywhere between 3-5% less across the board that Hurts got for the reasons cited above.

Naw there's a pretty big difference between the two. Hurts' team around him is far better than the team around Lamar. Hurts' team is stacked on Offense and Defense. The team around Lamar has only gotten worse these past two seasons.

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Baltimore looks like they knew what they were doing all along. Jackson looks foolish now. He would have all of that to himself as well without having to give a percentage to an agent.

They are virtually the same exact QB with the same exact style. Only difference is that Hurts was able to get it done in the post season whereas Jackson has yet to pull off anything special in that regard. 

I would go in and give him an offer anywhere between 3-5% less across the board that Hurts got for the reasons cited above.

Naw there's a pretty big difference between the two. Hurts' team around him is far better than the team around Lamar. Hurts' team is stacked on Offense and Defense. The team around Lamar has only gotten worse these past two seasons.

I agree the Eagles team as a whole is better currently. Not either QB's fault and not really an impact on this negotiation.  The issue separating them is not the money. The real issue the Ravens have is the 100% guaranteed contract. It is just not going to happen with his past.  I cannot blame them, I would not do it. They did give Lamar the ability to see if he could get a full guaranteed contract from someone else.  We will see if he can. Since I am not a Ravens fans I hope they do that.

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Speculation of change only happens when someone who is not considered the #1 becomes the highest paid. It opens the conversation about the guys who are better getting their pay day.

Hurts is good. But I don’t think anyone thinks he is better than Mahomes Burrow Allen(I think Lawrence is better but MSM probably doesn’t agree at this point).

All I’m saying is when Mahomes got his mega deal people may have gasped at how much but this conversation of capping it never really popped up because the # of people who will certainly be asking for more is much lower than this situation with Hurts.

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Hurts took a huge step up last season.

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Baltimore looks like they knew what they were doing all along. Jackson looks foolish now. He would have all of that to himself as well without having to give a percentage to an agent.

They are virtually the same exact QB with the same exact style. Only difference is that Hurts was able to get it done in the post season whereas Jackson has yet to pull off anything special in that regard. 

I would go in and give him an offer anywhere between 3-5% less across the board that Hurts got for the reasons cited above.

Naw there's a pretty big difference between the two. Hurts' team around him is far better than the team around Lamar. Hurts' team is stacked on Offense and Defense. The team around Lamar has only gotten worse these past two seasons.

Which is why you have to wonder what he'll do when his salary is eating up 30% of the team's cap space. Eventually Hurts will have to overcome his team's deficiencies. Jackson had opportunities in the play-off's to make a name for himself but left a lot to be desired along with points on the football field. 

He's not as good as he thinks he is. As many question marks as this QB class has coming into the NFL. Between Levis' lack of production. Young's size. Stroud's supporting cast at OSU. Hooker's knee injury. Richardson's inexperience and lack of production in spite of the physical intangibles. 

No team is entertaining the Ravens for a contract match or as a trading partner. He's commanding too much. That same team that has gotten worse over these past two seasons is the same team that had to be tailored around his specific skill set as a runner. 

That same team played decent enough in a play-off game without him. Had it not been for a fumble at the goal line it's possible they beat the Bengals in that wildcard game. That same team helped elevate him into an MVP. At this point it's just his pride and ego getting in the way more than anything.

His best shot is San Francisco. Which would probably involve a straight up QB trade of him and Lance and maybe a fair swap of picks. Maybe San Francisco gives up a pair of 2's and a 1 for a pair of 3's and a 2 or something like that to off set the deal.

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Lawrence will be in the $400 range

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Lawrence will be in the $400 range

$400 a season would be the team friendliest deal ever. I knew TLaw was a top notch character guy. Way to put the team first, kid.

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