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Preseason Week Two Countdown

#61

(08-17-2023, 02:14 PM)Jags32250 Wrote:
(08-17-2023, 02:00 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: The two practices vs. the Lions should be incentive for Baalke/Pederson to make moves on both the offensive and defensive lines. I was counting on Fatukasi to have a big rebound this season and hope the fact he was placed in a boot is more precautionary than a serious injury. Regardless, I'd have to re-visit the possibility of signing Clowney. He is excellent against the run and if Foley is out they'll need someone to pick up the slack in this area. He is also capable of getting some sacks despite underperforming in this area the past few seasons.

The offensive line must also be a significant concern. While Harrison has shown excellent skills so far at right tackle, the re-occurring shoulder issue could eventually cause him to miss time. Wells may not be great, but they are counting on him for depth and the apparent injury against the Lions does not bode well for him or the team. Robinson will return hopefully for week 5, but the team needs to do something to provide more depth for the line. Ideally, they can find someone versatile enough to play multiple positions. The two guys I'd consider strongly are free agent Dalton Risner and Patrick Mecari from the Ravens. Risner would not be cheap, but he would be an upgrade at guard and has also played tackle. Brandon Schereff may not be around after this season due to his high salary cap figure and Risner is only 28. My guess is that he signs somewhere in the next week with the Vikings and Cowboys rumored to be his likely destination. Mekari is a different case in that he is under contract with the Ravens. He will not be starting, but has filled in very effectively for the Ravens at guard and tackle. Possibly they could acquire him in a trade for a 4th or 5th round draft choice.

The Jaguars have a good chance to go far this season due to their strength at the skill positions. However, if either line breaks down there is no way they will be playing in the Super Bowl next February in Las Vegas.
Are you really suggesting Clowney as a replacement for Foley’s position? Really?

Glad you asked. No, they obviously don't play the same position but both are vey good run stoppers. If Foley is out for any time the team will need to pick up the slack in run defense. Clowney has excelled at that and even though he won't be plugged into Foley's position he would still help the run defense.
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#62

(08-17-2023, 02:27 PM)jaglou53 Wrote:
(08-17-2023, 02:14 PM)Jags32250 Wrote: Are you really suggesting Clowney as a replacement for Foley’s position? Really?

Glad you asked. No, they obviously don't play the same position but both are vey good run stoppers. If Foley is out for any time the team will need to pick up the slack in run defense. Clowney has excelled at that and even though he won't be plugged into Foley's position he would still help the run defense.
So who comes off the field on running downs?

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#63

Pretty sure Dalton Risner is already signed elsewhere, for whom ever mentioned that

Strike that, I see the Vikings did not actually sign him
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#64

(08-17-2023, 02:35 PM)Jags32250 Wrote:
(08-17-2023, 02:27 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: Glad you asked. No, they obviously don't play the same position but both are vey good run stoppers. If Foley is out for any time the team will need to pick up the slack in run defense. Clowney has excelled at that and even though he won't be plugged into Foley's position he would still help the run defense.
So who comes off the field on running downs?

I'll leave all of those decisions up to Mike Caldwell and his staff. Clowney has played edge rusher in different schemes (4-3 and 3-4). Regardless of where he has played, he has always been rated as one of the top run stoppers by PFF. No, he is not nearly as big as Fatukasi, who was being projected to be the starting nose tackle in the team's base defense. I do believe he could be very effective setting the Edge against the run and would be part of a rotation (possibly as both a defensive end and outside linebacker in the 3-4). The guy reportedly can be somewhat difficult and left Cleveland on bad terms, but his athleticism has never been questioned. Possibly a change of scenery and having a coach like Pederson will help jump-start his career. He has undoubtably been far from the player he was projected to be when he entered the NFL, but he is still only 30 years old and should have something left in the tank.
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#65

I think the need for a backup/rotational nose tackle may supersede the need for a DE/OLB with Fatukasi out. He was supposed to be a big piece of the puzzle for our interior DL.

If it looks like he's going to miss multiple reg season games, I think they need another 300#+ DT/NT added to this roster.

Right now it is Davon Hamilton, a late round rookie (Voahasek), and Jeremiah Ledbetter (who weighs in shy of 300 but played some NT prior to the NFL)
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#66

Very anxious to know more about these injuries

https://twitter.com/MiaOBrienTV/status/1...92992?s=20

https://twitter.com/jordandelugo/status/...58597?s=20

Sliver of hope
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#67

Foley was on an off the injury report pretty much all year last year too.

Bummer
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#68

Not really Jags related but I couldn't help posting it. The Vikings OT straight up bullying Arden Key lololololololol
https://twitter.com/vikesinsider/status/...6362258768
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#69
(This post was last modified: 08-18-2023, 02:16 AM by D6. Edited 1 time in total.)

(08-16-2023, 03:56 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(08-16-2023, 03:45 PM)D6 Wrote: Jeff Risdon, from Lions Wire, who many know from NFL Draft Coverage, mentioned the friendly long-time rivalry between Chauncey Gardner-Johnson and Calvin Ridley. With both former SEC players having mutual respect for each other.  Risdon also had high praise for the Jaguars, including their LB corp, and the Defensive Line. 


https://lionswire.usatoday.com/lists/lio...of-action/

Nice - thanks for posting, D6

Good to see an outside perspective

You're welcome, NYC4Jags.

The following are Jeff Risdon's observations from Thursday Joint Practice.  He expressed that the Jaguars LBs might be the fastest LB group the Lions face all season. 

He highlighted a catch by Brenton Strange and one by Christian Kirk. 

https://lionswire.usatoday.com/lists/lio...rom-day-2/

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#70

Just hope that the LB's can be fast all season in the regular season here. May have to workout some kinks!
Ready for May Day, May Flowers, and Memorial and Mother's Day!
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#71

Great summary
Good to hear about the LBs
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#72
(This post was last modified: 08-18-2023, 12:10 PM by Mikey.)

(08-17-2023, 02:27 PM)jaglou53 Wrote:
(08-17-2023, 02:14 PM)Jags32250 Wrote: Are you really suggesting Clowney as a replacement for Foley’s position? Really?

Glad you asked. No, they obviously don't play the same position but both are vey good run stoppers. If Foley is out for any time the team will need to pick up the slack in run defense. Clowney has excelled at that and even though he won't be plugged into Foley's position he would still help the run defense.

....not unless he's on the field; who are you taking out so that Clowney can fill the void? Allen? Walker? Do we run a light in the pants line with fewer big men and more speed? That's a recipe for allowing yards in bunches.

(08-17-2023, 07:14 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Foley was on an off the injury report pretty much all year last year too.

Bummer

wonder if it's the same ankle/foot?
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#73

Walker moving inside that DL is inevitable
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#74

(08-18-2023, 01:56 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: Walker moving inside that DL is inevitable

On passing downs sure.  If you're talking about early downs he's going to have to put on some weight
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#75

Clowney signed with the Ravens so he's no longer an option.
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#76

Are starters playing tomorrow.
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#77

(08-17-2023, 11:17 PM)Eric1 Wrote: Not really Jags related but I couldn't help posting it. The Vikings OT straight up bullying Arden Key lololololololol
https://twitter.com/vikesinsider/status/...6362258768

Isn't that the guy who was the key to building jacksonville and is currently in the process of building nashville?
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#78

Key got piledrived
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#80

Worried about Hamilton going into Indy.
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