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Trevor Lawrence: Franchise QB (TL Discussion, Merged Threads)
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If TLaw wants us to back up the Brinks truck, then we better back the damn Brinks truck up for him.
Now is not the time to potentially play a ticky-tacky contract game - especially after we finally found OUR guy. Anyone who's watched our games know that Trevor is playing at a high level despite what the statistics might show. Give him a little bit of time in the pocket and he can do some great things like he showed against the tinhorns. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (11-26-2023, 05:15 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: 364 yards - 2 TD - 1 iNT But sweet merciful poo the postgame was a tribute to CJS, and oh yeah Trevor and the Jags are top seed. Crap, there go our ratings. Not saying CJ is chopped liver, but dear goodness the media is doing everything they can to make him the face of the division. (11-27-2023, 09:49 AM)Mikey Wrote:(11-26-2023, 05:15 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: 364 yards - 2 TD - 1 iNT They want him to be Mahomes 2.0. That's all it boils down to. "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king." (11-26-2023, 06:19 PM)carp8dm Wrote:(11-26-2023, 06:03 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: So, that was another excellent game. The only throw I fault him on was down in the redzone where he was a hair too slow on the read. Otherwise that's a 4 TD performance. The pick irks me but in fairness that was 100% a holding on the defense... Trevor is starting to heat up when it matters. Late November/December football. Hopefully he continues the trajectory and he's red hot in January. Are you prohibited from creating such a thread? I mean this would be a legit gripe if every time someone created a nuanced thread about a specific aspect of Trevor's play it just got merged into this, but I can't say that's happening. As I just stated, I think the discussion is still valid. The media are still trying to jump on the CJS bandwagon even when TLaw is the one racking up the wins and in position to again go on a postseason run. They treat him as an afterthought. I get such a ploy during last season, when we were coming off one of the worst coaching performances in history and the question was still to be decided if this were fluke or legit. At this stage, we know the team is a contender. What other franchise QBs get this downplayed focus? (11-26-2023, 06:58 PM)carp8dm Wrote:(11-26-2023, 06:20 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: You can discuss anything Trevor Lawrence related here. (like everyone else not stamping their feet like a petulant child) Care to cite examples of this in the recent posts? Create a better thread if you think there is better discussion to be had, that simple. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (11-26-2023, 07:14 PM)carp8dm Wrote:(11-26-2023, 07:05 PM)Caldrac Wrote: If he wins a Superbowl? This thread will be pinned. This is on you, then. The thread title is a statement, not a question. From day one he was the franchise. Just like Gabbert was. Just like Bortles was. Just like Leftwich was. As he goes, so go we. No debate necessary. (11-26-2023, 07:41 PM)AnOldBrownie Wrote: I still don't think Trevor is a 50 million per year QB. If we choose not to extend him for another two seasons, he absotively, posolutely will be a 50+M guy. If he pulls a Flacco and tears through the postseason like a buzzsaw, he certainly will merit a $50M deal. I have all the confidence in the world that Shad will do everything in his power to keep Lawrence here for the next decade, no matter the cost.
(11-27-2023, 10:02 AM)Mikey Wrote:(11-26-2023, 07:14 PM)carp8dm Wrote: But why? Yeah, Shad will definitely spend the money; I worry about Baalke's ability to manage the deal and cap. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
(11-26-2023, 08:54 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:(11-26-2023, 08:37 PM)carp8dm Wrote: You mean if I was Baalke? You set the market on either guarantee or bonus, not both, to make player and agent happy. It's a fair deal in consideration of precedent and market value and I can't see how either side would make this negotiation contentious.
11-27-2023, 11:16 AM
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Don't get cute in negotiations. From the GM's perspective and the player's perspective, everybody at the table knows he's due a market setting contract. No need to lowball and play games. As GM, I think you put the onus on the player and ask him what he wants the next 5 years to look like for the roster. If he wants to be surrounded by talent, and I think Trevor is they type that would, then he'll be willing to have the contract written in such a way to defer salary and allow the rest of the roster to be maintained to the maximum extent that it can.
EDIT: He could also take a big signing bonus and do a 10 year contract like Mahomes which spreads it manageably over 10 years. So in that sense, he gets paid serious money up front and then re-do the deal down the road. This would allow for the rest of the roster to be maintained as well. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (11-27-2023, 11:16 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: Don't get cute in negotiations. From the GM's perspective and the player's perspective, everybody at the table knows he's due a market setting contract. No need to lowball and play games. As GM, I think you put the onus on the player and ask him what he wants the next 5 years to look like for the roster. If he wants to be surrounded by talent, and I think Trevor is the type that would, then he'll be willing to have the contract written in such a way to defer salary and allow the rest of the roster to be maintained to the maximum extent that it can. Yes, been saying this for some time. Trevor is on record with multiple statements inferring this type of willingness to be cooperative with cap management when the time comes. I have zero concern they will be able to get him on board with restructures and moving money around - especially if they get him signed on for 5 years or more - which I also expect to happen.
Gee in this modern psyche around football, I wonder why the media prefer CJ over Trevor? Hmm
Honestly who cares, I hope the media leaves us alone, craps, and sleeps on the team. Media fawning doesn't count in the win column. Trevor dials up great throws and barring a good play by the Texan defender, that play to Z was dropped in a great spot. The defender made a play. It is so good to have a QB that van make throws.
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Yeah. When I think about it, I can get really steamed about the lack of respect and acclaim Trevor gets from the media. From their perspective he’s too white and from the franchise in the city they think should have never had a franchise. They overlook that Buffalo, Cinci, Green Bay, etc. are small markets in less desirable places and that the Chargers are a homeless team nobody wants.
As far as CJ goes, he caught a lot of attention for playing as well as he has as a rookie. There’s a lot to like about him if he weren’t in our division. I wish the Falcons could have gotten him. He’s confident and an accurate passer. And he’s a good character kid. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Fix the O-Line!
Let's try to refrain from injecting race into this thread about our talented starting QB moving forward, please and thank you.
Not appropriate or necessary here. We know the majority of national pundits don't care much for our little market, but we don't need to take it there. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Look at where Johnson was when Trevor threw this screen. This is the one he took for 40+ yards
IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS
(11-27-2023, 12:15 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Let's try to refrain from injecting race into this thread about our talented starting QB moving forward, please and thank you. Sorry if you found it inappropriate. I think it speaks to the prevailing attitude in the media. It’s the liberal bias du jour. my personal perspective is that it doesn’t and shouldn’t matter what a person’s ethnicity is. We should be way past all that by now. And most of us are. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Fix the O-Line!
(11-27-2023, 12:20 PM)I am Yoda Wrote:Oh shut up you big baby.(11-27-2023, 12:15 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Let's try to refrain from injecting race into this thread about our talented starting QB moving forward, please and thank you. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
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(11-27-2023, 12:10 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: Yeah. When I think about it, I can get really steamed about the lack of respect and acclaim Trevor gets from the media. From their perspective he’s too white and from the franchise in the city they think should have never had a franchise. They overlook that Buffalo, Cinci, Green Bay, etc. are small markets in less desirable places and that the Chargers are a homeless team nobody wants. Trevor gets a TON of respect and acclaim from the media. Stroud is new, and he's already really good, and that's why the media are fawning over him. As they should. Because he looks like he could be really great. It has nothing to do with anything else. He's the latest new thing, and that's why he's getting a lot of attention. (11-27-2023, 12:27 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:(11-27-2023, 12:10 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: Yeah. When I think about it, I can get really steamed about the lack of respect and acclaim Trevor gets from the media. From their perspective he’s too white and from the franchise in the city they think should have never had a franchise. They overlook that Buffalo, Cinci, Green Bay, etc. are small markets in less desirable places and that the Chargers are a homeless team nobody wants. Trevor has 2 or 3 national media members who give him his due. The others are still skeptics. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Fix the O-Line!
(11-27-2023, 12:27 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:Thank you. Well said.(11-27-2023, 12:10 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: Yeah. When I think about it, I can get really steamed about the lack of respect and acclaim Trevor gets from the media. From their perspective he’s too white and from the franchise in the city they think should have never had a franchise. They overlook that Buffalo, Cinci, Green Bay, etc. are small markets in less desirable places and that the Chargers are a homeless team nobody wants. |
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