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Those videos are pretty impressive regardless of the prospect....

 

I still have questions about taking him #3 overall, but I am not opposed to it

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The quote at the end about the military is similar to what Peyton Manning often says. 90% of the play happens before the snap. Teddy dominates that 90%. That's your elite trait for him. 

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The quote at the end about the military is similar to what Peyton Manning often says. 90% of the play happens before the snap. Teddy dominates that 90%. That's your elite trait for him. 

 

Yes that is his elite trait. Even I will admit that. My only concerns were lack of other tangibles (i.e. Arm Strength, body build, etc), which is why I would prefer him sitting a year. I think he could develop a stronger arm and better body build after 2 NFL off seasons and be poised to take over at the start of 2015.

 

But man, that was pretty impressive what he did.  I can't wait to see him on Gruden's QB camp and Mariucci's Game Changers so I can really see him on the white board, etc.

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I like Teddy.  His pro day was an outlier in my opinion.  He might have just had a bad day or whatever.  He might be a gamer.  Which is fine. 

 

I also have to add that Byron Leftwhich was one of the smartest QBs that I have ever seen. 

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I like Teddy.  His pro day was an outlier in my opinion.  He might have just had a bad day or whatever.  He might be a gamer.  Which is fine. 

 

I also have to add that Byron Leftwhich was one of the smartest QBs that I have ever seen. 

 

That's why I still have my doubts. Its a great attribute to know what to do pre-snap, but in the NFL you also need to have the physical tools to be able to do it after the snap.

 

Maybe he does have those physical tools, but right now I don't see it 100%.

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Yes that is his elite trait. Even I will admit that. My only concerns were lack of other tangibles (i.e. Arm Strength, body build, etc), which is why I would prefer him sitting a year. I think he could develop a stronger arm and better body build after 2 NFL off seasons and be poised to take over at the start of 2015.

 

But man, that was pretty impressive what he did.  I can't wait to see him on Gruden's QB camp and Mariucci's Game Changers so I can really see him on the white board, etc.

Develop a stronger arm? I just assumed if that was possible someone would have done it with Chad Pennington.

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The only way you can develop a stronger arm is if you have a flaw in your mechanics.  He might be able to add another 3 or 4 yrds, but for the most part, his arm strength is his arm strength as it stands right now. 

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Develop a stronger arm? I just assumed if that was possible someone would have done it with Chad Pennington.

What I mean by that is learning to trust his Arm on throws that need more zip, or on deeper balls with accuracy.

 

Not saying he will get a GUN for an arm. I meant to say learning to use what he has more effective, which will give the appearance that it is stronger.

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The only way you can develop a stronger arm is if you have a flaw in your mechanics.  He might be able to add another 3 or 4 yrds, but for the most part, his arm strength is his arm strength as it stands right now. 

His arm strength isn't even an issue, his deep accuracy isn't amazing but he can do it. 

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Oh geesh....I cant decide who I want anymore. Teddy Clowney Teddy Clowney....flip a coin

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This along with his pocket presence are the elite traits and in my opinion the two most important traits for a qb. 

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No offense but after your the initial thread I was expecting a lot more.  Pre-snap he calls the mike linebacker and then after the snap, if he sees the safeties rotate, he looks in that direction to see if there is a blitz.  If so, he yells something so his oline slides that way.  And thats all he said.  

 

At least he doesnt sound dumb like Cam Newton did with Gruden.

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I really don't think anyone is questioning the intelligence here.  The guy has a great football IQ.  I think there are legitimate concerns about how durable he'll be at the next level.  I think there are also worries about how his passing ability translates to a bigger, faster brand of football in the NFL.  I think he's got the potential to be a good starting QB, but I'm still not buying into the hype some here keep stoking about him being worthy of the #3 pick.  I'm just not seeing it.

 

Now, I DO think if we draft him at #3 that the team should immediately make it clear Henne remains the starter, and we let Bridgewater (or any QB we wind up with for that matter) develop for as long as it takes.  I don't want to see them rushing anyone into that position before they're ready.  I think a smart guy like Bridgewater can probably assume the starting role during his rookie year, but I'd prefer it not happen right away just to allow him time to develop. 

 

It's interesting.  I was listening to Lageman talking about how thin his ankles are.  It doesn't equate to durability one way or the other, but it is always something you worry about.  He's got a pretty slight build.  But, I always thought the same thing about Mark Brunell.  When I'd see him out there during training camp, I was always surprised by how small he actually was in comparison to a guy like David Garrard who was thick from his neck to his cleats.  Same thing for Quinn Gray.  Mark had spindly legs in comparison to Garrard.  Leftwich was the same way.  But, Brunell was fairly durable, and Leftwich wasn't, so while there's a concern with Bridgewater over his durability, it's not a given that he'll be fragile at the next level. 

 

Honestly, if the team drafted him, I'd be fine with it.  I think any team that lands him is going to be getting a smart QB who understands the game, and can think quickly on his feet.  What he lacks in some areas, he more than makes up for with his football IQ. 

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I like Teddy.  His pro day was an outlier in my opinion.  He might have just had a bad day or whatever.  He might be a gamer.  Which is fine. 

 

I also have to add that Byron Leftwhich was one of the smartest QBs that I have ever seen. 

 

And that's precisely why you can't count on that necessarily translating.

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I like Teddy.  His pro day was an outlier in my opinion.  He might have just had a bad day or whatever.  He might be a gamer.  Which is fine. 

 

I also have to add that Byron Leftwhich was one of the smartest QBs that I have ever seen. 

 

Leftwich had a great football IQ.  He simply lacked durability.  He was a smart guy on the field. 

 

It's funny because the biggest knocks on him were durability, that long wind-up, and slow feet.  I think in most instances, it was his quick decisions that saved him, especially with the windup issues.  Unfortunately, his willingness to stand in there and let a play develop with sluggishly slow receivers created an injury problem.  It was frustrating at times to see him standing tall in the pocket, and getting the ball out just before getting clobbered for a 3 yard gain when throwing it away sooner would have avoided a hit.  The guy took a beating.  What was even more frustrating was the fact that he had no finesse at all.  Receivers had to be ready to be nearly impaled any time he threw the ball their way. 

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That was pretty impressive regardless of the prospect....

 

I still don't think he is worth #3, but I am not as opposed to it.

What in particular seemed to be impressive to you? This makes me want Bridgewater even less than I did before. This was damage control PR. 

 

So who fussed more about Bridgewater's epic fall out of the top twenty? His handlers or NFL owners with itching ears?

 

You don't draft a guy on talk. You stand on your professional evaluations and trusted advisors.

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 I think there are legitimate concerns about how durable he'll be at the next level.  I think there are also worries about how his passing ability translates to a bigger, faster brand of football in the NFL. 

We're talking about Teddy, while the above statement is clearly aimed at Manziel.

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Leftwich had a great football IQ.  He simply lacked durability.  He was a smart guy on the field. 

 

It's funny because the biggest knocks on him were durability, that long wind-up, and slow feet.  I think in most instances, it was his quick decisions that saved him, especially with the windup issues.  Unfortunately, his willingness to stand in there and let a play develop with sluggishly slow receivers created an injury problem.  It was frustrating at times to see him standing tall in the pocket, and getting the ball out just before getting clobbered for a 3 yard gain when throwing it away sooner would have avoided a hit.  The guy took a beating.  What was even more frustrating was the fact that he had no finesse at all.  Receivers had to be ready to be nearly impaled any time he threw the ball their way. 

This is a big reason why I believe Reggie Williams got accustomed to body catching. Leftwich's passes were like Brett Favre's if Brett Favre put everything he had on every pass, every time.

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RIGHT NOW. THIS IS NOT A JOKE.

Leftwich had a great football IQ.  He simply lacked durability.  He was a smart guy on the field. 

 

It's funny because the biggest knocks on him were durability, that long wind-up, and slow feet.  I think in most instances, it was his quick decisions that saved him, especially with the windup issues.  Unfortunately, his willingness to stand in there and let a play develop with sluggishly slow receivers created an injury problem.  It was frustrating at times to see him standing tall in the pocket, and getting the ball out just before getting clobbered for a 3 yard gain when throwing it away sooner would have avoided a hit.  The guy took a beating.  What was even more frustrating was the fact that he had no finesse at all.  Receivers had to be ready to be nearly impaled any time he threw the ball their way. 

 

Which was worse? The poor throws from Leftwich that always lacked touch, or the wide receiver getting plastered because Byron led him directly into the rib shots and head shots delivered by the opposing linebackers and secondary?

 

I could not possibly care less about how brave or how foolish it is for a quarterback to take his own shots. Leftwich always ranked right up there with me for pocket poise. However, if you don't have the ability to take it all in instantaneously, you tend to kill your pass catchers. Great quarterbacks see the potential peril and lay off the receiver. Leftwich was erratic in the location of his passes, and threw into peril. The net result was a guy stretched out getting blasted. 

 

He never made it in the NFL because he never had touch on his throws. If you remember it the way I do, his short throws often came out like knuckleballed shot puts.

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Teddy Bridgewater's main selling point is that he is the most NFL-ready QB in the draft.   So if we are determined that whomever we draft is going to sit for a year, that kind of negates that in my mind.   If our rookie QB is going to sit for a year, then why not take a guy with all the tools like Mettenberger?   I assume he will learn as he sits.  

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