Jeff Lageman just now on the radio, when asked what the starting line-up would be on the line going into January:

"Cleveland at LG. After 1 game. The energy and effort on the screen play. He's the best LG on the team".

He gives the nod to Robinson over Little due to attitude, approach and edge in Robinson's favor. He said they're "equal" though. Cam gives you something that Walker can't. But, he said, which is funny to me, that, if we're down and we need time in the pocket and Lawrence needs time to make plays downfield? Little is better.

Cam is better when you're up and you can grind out the clock. LOL. I don't know. You just said Little is your best pass blocker at LT and you would rather start Cam instead? In a pass happy offense? Interesting take.

Depending on how Little and Ezra are playing, I dont see them putting Cam back in.
He does give you an intangible, but shaking up the chemistry again is not worth the juice Cam gives you.

barring injury, this should be the line up for the rest of the year

Yeah - unless Little really shows some bad play at LT (or gets banged up worse than Cam) I wouldn't switch it up.

Been scrolling through the all 22 a bit today and the LT/LG combo after Cam's exit is looking good to me. I'd like to see that gel for a while.

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Jeff Lageman just now on the radio, when asked what the starting line-up would be on the line going into January:

"Cleveland at LG. After 1 game. The energy and effort on the screen play. He's the best LG on the team".

He gives the nod to Robinson over Little due to attitude, approach and edge in Robinson's favor. He said they're "equal" though. Cam gives you something that Walker can't. But, he said, which is funny to me, that, if we're down and we need time in the pocket and Lawrence needs time to make plays downfield? Little is better.

Cam is better when you're up and you can grind out the clock. LOL. I don't know. You just said Little is your best pass blocker at LT and you would rather start Cam instead? In a pass happy offense? Interesting take.

Depending on how Little and Ezra are playing, I dont see them putting Cam back in.
He does give you an intangible, but shaking up the chemistry again is not worth the juice Cam gives you.

barring injury, this should be the line up for the rest of the year

Agreed. Cam should spend the next few weeks resting and recuperating. I want him to be the depth when postseason comes, rather than rush him back out and re-aggravate whatever he hurt on Sunday. Stability goes a long way to fostering production.

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This conversation about whether Cam or Walker is the best tackle on the team is soon going to be null and void as Anton Harrison is on his way to claiming the title

watch #77 throughout this cut up

https://twitter.com/FilmJax1738/status/1...21472?s=20

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This conversation about whether Cam or Walker is the best tackle on the team is soon going to be null and void as Anton Harrison is on his way to claiming the title

watch #77 throughout this cut up

https://twitter.com/FilmJax1738/status/1...21472?s=20

Yea, That is our #27 pick stoning the Texan's #3 pick Will Anderson Jr.  It was an all day sucker event for Will. The only time he did anything was the time he got to rush Strange.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

I kinda disagree.

Don't get me wrong, we got absolutely rocked against the 49ers.   But every team did!  Including the Steelers, Rams, and Cowboys...  

All I'm saying is that our O-Line has actually given good protection to Trevor Lawrence over the last 6 games (If you exclude the 49ers Game).  It's not that the O-Line was suspect, but that our play calling was forcing quick reads instead of letting plays develop.

Our O-Line has been looking good for several games.  That's why we are 8-3.  And honestly, we finally let Trevor go deep against Houston.  Dude, it's time to open up the play book.  Press Taylor needs to get his [BLEEP] together and let this offense go.  The O-Line is capable of protecting Lawrence long enough for him to stretch the feild.

So if we got rocked by SF, why did you say you wanna see the OLine against SF?

I think you’re just a classic contrarian.

“Jags OLine is bad”
“No it’s not! Jags OLine has been good!”

Nothing wrong with it but unless you have facts to back up your statement that the Oline hasn’t been bad before the last 2 weeks…..

I'm not sure what you mean by the highlighted?  I don't think I said what you think I said...

In terms of me being the contrarian...  I never went back and forth about our O-Line.   Our O-Line, in my opinion has been inconsistent.  I've said that since September.  But that means that there were times where the Line held up and gave Lawrence an opportunity to go down the field.  Unfortunately, our newbie OC was not comfortable with testing defenses deep.  Honestly, he still really isn't as much as he should be.

But what I've been saying isn't contrarian.

EDIT: I'm not saying that the O-LIne is great. But I have posted many PFF grades on our O-Line that showed they are just as good this year as they were last year.

My main point is that the O-LIne hasn't regressed to the point that many here think they did back in September and October...

Sorry for misreading your post. But that is my main point. The O-Line now is similar to the O-Line last year.

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This conversation about whether Cam or Walker is the best tackle on the team is soon going to be null and void as Anton Harrison is on his way to claiming the title

watch #77 throughout this cut up

https://twitter.com/FilmJax1738/status/1...21472?s=20

Yea, That is our #27 pick stoning the Texan's #3 pick Will Anderson Jr.  It was an all day sucker event for Will. The only time he did anything was the time he got to rush Strange.

Probably the best thing that could have happened was for him to go against Chris Jones in week 2.

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

Jeff Lageman just now on the radio, when asked what the starting line-up would be on the line going into January:

"Cleveland at LG. After 1 game. The energy and effort on the screen play. He's the best LG on the team".

He gives the nod to Robinson over Little due to attitude, approach and edge in Robinson's favor. He said they're "equal" though. Cam gives you something that Walker can't. But, he said, which is funny to me, that, if we're down and we need time in the pocket and Lawrence needs time to make plays downfield? Little is better.

Cam is better when you're up and you can grind out the clock. LOL. I don't know. You just said Little is your best pass blocker at LT and you would rather start Cam instead? In a pass happy offense? Interesting take.

I'm sorry but the only way Cam should see the field again for this team, this season is because of an injury. Throwing him back into the lineup after missing 4-6+ weeks towards the start of, or the midst of the playoffs is the dumbest thing you can do. Cam just isn't that dude.

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So if we got rocked by SF, why did you say you wanna see the OLine against SF?

I think you’re just a classic contrarian.

“Jags OLine is bad”
“No it’s not! Jags OLine has been good!”

Nothing wrong with it but unless you have facts to back up your statement that the Oline hasn’t been bad before the last 2 weeks…..

I'm not sure what you mean by the highlighted?  I don't think I said what you think I said...

In terms of me being the contrarian...  I never went back and forth about our O-Line.   Our O-Line, in my opinion has been inconsistent.  I've said that since September.  But that means that there were times where the Line held up and gave Lawrence an opportunity to go down the field.  Unfortunately, our newbie OC was not comfortable with testing defenses deep.  Honestly, he still really isn't as much as he should be.

But what I've been saying isn't contrarian.

EDIT:  I'm not saying that the O-LIne is great.  But I have posted many PFF grades on our O-Line that showed they are just as good this year as they were last year.

My main point is that the O-LIne hasn't regressed to the point that many here think they did back in September and October...

Sorry for misreading your post.  But that is my main point.  The O-Line now is similar to the O-Line last year.

Your main point continues to be wrong. No matter how many times you post your misunderstanding it won't make it become reality. The line in November is significantly better than the same line in September and hopefully will end up better than last year's line for the season. Little Cleveland is better than Cam Little, Cam Bartch, and Cam Shatley, so hopefully they will continue this improved level of execution and keep Trevor upright.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

That last bit. #1 in all RT's being left on an island out there? WOW. Kudos to him. Kudos to the staff on letting this kid take his lumps. I know some people have their opinions about him. I have seldom seen this kid get beat in pass protection and, again, not sure how bad his shoulder injury is but I would imagine a full off season with it being rested won't hurt in 2024.

The entire O-Line was great in Pass Protection yesterday.  

Cam went down early in the 2nd quarter (If memory serves me), and then we shifted Little and Cleveland.  And the O-Line didn't miss a beat.

Dude our O-Line is not the issue.  Trevor was clean all day.  You gotta give it up to how well our Line played.  I'd love to see how this O-Line would do against SF...  

Let's GOOOOOO!!!

So if we got rocked by SF, why did you say you wanna see the OLine against SF?

I think you’re just a classic contrarian.

“Jags OLine is bad”
“No it’s not! Jags OLine has been good!”

Nothing wrong with it but unless you have facts to back up your statement that the Oline hasn’t been bad before the last 2 weeks…..

I'm not sure what you mean by the highlighted?  I don't think I said what you think I said...

In terms of me being the contrarian...  I never went back and forth about our O-Line.   Our O-Line, in my opinion has been inconsistent.  I've said that since September.  But that means that there were times where the Line held up and gave Lawrence an opportunity to go down the field.  Unfortunately, our newbie OC was not comfortable with testing defenses deep.  Honestly, he still really isn't as much as he should be.

But what I've been saying isn't contrarian.

EDIT:  I'm not saying that the O-LIne is great.  But I have posted many PFF grades on our O-Line that showed they are just as good this year as they were last year.

My main point is that the O-LIne hasn't regressed to the point that many here think they did back in September and October...

Sorry for misreading your post.  But that is my main point.  The O-Line now is similar to the O-Line last year.

Take a look at the bolded up top.

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https://twitter.com/MiaOBrienTV/status/1...21519?s=20

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Level headed ... apparently

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

https://twitter.com/DanDGriffis/status/1...03893?s=20

6 pressures. Sweet.

Delete the Bengals tape please.

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With that card now played, tackle depth is concerning. Im ok with Shatley on the inside if need be.
Hopefully Cam is ready by playoffs and available as backup

Cleveland played tackle in college and we have Hance and Cole Van Lanen who both have played some tackle - until Cam is ready again.
Not ideal depth - but may only need to get us through a few weeks.

With Little's injury, I thought 73 Hance held up ok

keep Cleveland inside and continue settling in, with Hance at tackle

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https://twitter.com/DanDGriffis/status/1...03893?s=20

6 pressures. Sweet.

Delete the Bengals tape please.

I would have that game and the 49ers game running on loop on multiple TV's and devices throughout the entire building. Should be up everywhere. Never understood this mentality that you hear around the NFL. "Burn it, move on". Why? Didn't seem to help out much after you got embarrassed at home by the tinhorns, then the 49ers and now the bungles. 

Wear that [BLEEP] on your face until you erase an offense completely. Wear that [BLEEP] on your sleeve until you hold an offense to just field goals in a game, no touchdowns. Looks like old boy up in Pittsburgh was right. This is a "hope" defense. Looks like Trevor was on pace to have his fastest release time per play as well. Maybe the line needs to see how awful they are. Maybe they need to see how much talent they're aiding in pissing away with Lawrence when he could be 10x better with more competent line play.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

https://twitter.com/DanDGriffis/status/1...03893?s=20

6 pressures. Sweet.

Delete the Bengals tape please.

Damn, we really do need Cam back.  Aside from Kirk likely being done for the year, everyone who has just come back from injury and is currently playing subpar (Campbell, Hamilton) and everyone who has recently been injured should all have enough time to get back into form and get healthy come playoff time.  Maybe there's a silver lining to be had here by very likely taking the 1 seed off the table and just worrying about and focusing on getting as healthy as possible for "the run".  Just need to bag 2 or 3 wins in the last 5.  Let's wrap up the division please.  1 seed next year.

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https://twitter.com/PriscoCBS/status/173...88136?s=20

I won't drag out the old Center and LG thread, but those spots have been a big problem all year.

Thought Ezra C would shore up one of them, but it is just not happening quite yet.

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https://twitter.com/PriscoCBS/status/173...88136?s=20

I won't drag out the old Center and LG thread, but those spots have been a big problem all year.

Thought Ezra C would shore up one of them, but it is just not happening quite yet.

It's not going to happen anytime soon. At least not during these next two weeks. They're going to have to go with 13 personnel more often and they're going to have to do more six man protections and hope for some isolation opportunities to present themselves downfield with Calvin and Zay.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

https://twitter.com/PriscoCBS/status/173...88136?s=20

I won't drag out the old Center and LG thread, but those spots have been a big problem all year.

Thought Ezra C would shore up one of them, but it is just not happening quite yet.

Center in the first 3 rounds would make a lot of sense next year if they can identify one or more worthy candidates that are available at their turn.  I'm close to done with Fortner.

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https://twitter.com/PriscoCBS/status/173...88136?s=20

I won't drag out the old Center and LG thread, but those spots have been a big problem all year.

Thought Ezra C would shore up one of them, but it is just not happening quite yet.

Center in the first 3 rounds would make a lot of sense next year if they can identify one or more worthy candidates that are available at their turn.  I'm close to done with Fortner.

Sedrick Van Pran out of Georgia, Zack Frazier out of West Virgina (has a wrestling background) and Jackson Powers-Johnson out of Oregon are all worth a look on potentially day two in my opinion. All three would be upgrades over Fortner. 

I am also hoping Dallas doesn't retain Tyler Biadasz and Baltimore doesn't retain Sam Mustipher in free agency next year. I would target the two of them for sure as a top priority. Andre James from Las Vegas is also worth a look.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

https://twitter.com/PriscoCBS/status/173...88136?s=20

I won't drag out the old Center and LG thread, but those spots have been a big problem all year.

Thought Ezra C would shore up one of them, but it is just not happening quite yet.

Center in the first 3 rounds would make a lot of sense next year if they can identify one or more worthy candidates that are available at their turn.  I'm close to done with Fortner.

That would have made a lot of sense this year as well.  It's been a need since Linder retired

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