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(12-30-2023, 11:42 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:(12-30-2023, 10:33 PM)Jag88 Wrote: I’d rather be the gators and not get a bowl game than get smoked by an all time record to the hated dawgs. One of my best friends is a noles fan. Im sure he’s hurting right now, so I’ll make sure not to bring it up anymore. 60 points wow I watched the scrimmage tonight just to get a better feel for Brock Glenn.. Dude definitely has that "It" factor. He made some pretty nice plays tonight for the caliber team he was up against. Some pretty bad plays too, but that was expected. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
12-31-2023, 01:53 PM
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(12-30-2023, 10:51 PM)Newton Wrote:(12-30-2023, 07:36 PM)Jagger Wrote: FSU would have had as good a chance as anyone without Travis? Did you see the Louisville game? Come on, dude. You have got to be kidding me. They woulda got killed by any of those 4 teams.Well, it’s not a huge deal to me, because I care a lot more about the NFL, but you are missing the point that it was a third string quarterback, making his second start against a mostly full strength UGA defense, all the whole missing almost all the actual star players of the team. This is not a game you can really judge. Teams like FSU are not as deep as teams like UGA. However, their top guys are just as good. Eh, I don’t know if I would say their top guys are just as good. I watched a lot of football this year, both Georgia and FSU, and Georgia talent-wise was much better. The ACC was really weak this year. Weakest I’ve ever seen it. And FSU struggled with some bad teams. I think with Travis, I agree, they could hang with Georgia. But there’s such a drop off after Travis, and that was evident in the UF and Louisville games. The committee’s biggest error was moving FSU from 5 to 4 after they looked bad against Florida. They should have kept them 5, maybe keep OSU ahead of them or move Texas way up. But that was where the committee screwed up. It also bad that Georgia hadn’t lost a game in like 2 or 3 years, then loses one game to a great team by 3 points and all of a sudden drops to 6? And Texas, who was 7, beats an Okla St team that’s prolly worse than Louisville, and jumps to 3? There were weird things that happened those last 2 weeks with the rankings.
The strength of Louisville is their D, and FSU still scored 16 with their third string QB. Alabama only scored 27. Michigan only scored 26. 10 points? That's what you separates the playoff worthy teams? Get out of here. That's just spin.
UF was a rivalry game. What's your excuse for Alabama vs Auburn? Why does Alabama get a pass on needing a miracle to beat a sorry Auburn team? Could it be because the biggest sports news network owns a majority stake in the conference? The minute Alabama won against GA, the entire ESPN network went into full salvage mode. Instead of getting 1 team in, they ended up with two, when they should have gotten zero. I'm not saying that the SEC isn't good. They are. I am saying I have grown tired if this manipulation. The new playoffs will resolve this to some level, but the simple fact is that it's football. You play to win games. GA dropped the ball. Alabama dropped the ball. FSU did not drop the ball. They shouldn't have been punished. It was a money decision to keep FSU out of the playoffs. The result is a lopsided game where a legitimately good team managed to keep its starters together, and a disheartened team turned their backs on college football.
12-31-2023, 03:51 PM
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(12-31-2023, 03:15 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: The strength of Louisville is their D, and FSU still scored 16 with their third string QB. Alabama only scored 27. Michigan only scored 26. 10 points? That's what you separates the playoff worthy teams? Get out of here. That's just spin. It wasn’t a money decision. Come on, dude. The problem in all this was Georgia lost. If they beat Bama, you can bet your bottom dollar FSU is in over Texas. But Bama beat Georgia, and you can’t leave a 1-loss SEC champ out when their third best win was FSU’s toughest. If you think FSU should have been over the SEC champ, then the idiot award goes to you. Now should they be in over Texas or Washington? I could maybe get on board with you a little more there. Committee weighed the head to head of Bama-Texas too much and felt like they couldn’t leave Texas out. Yet as an ND fan, I remember 1993 when ND beat FSU and finishes with same record as FSU yet they gave title to FSU fml.
So you didn't answer any questions. Explain Bama needing a miracle to beat Auburn. Explain why 20 points is good enough to get in, but 16 isn't. You can't. It's just rah rah football [BLEEP]. Follow the money works everywhere at every level in this country. There is no purity
The simple fact is that the SEC has a majority stake owned by the largest and most influential sports network. They are a good conference. Full stop. GA dropped the ball. Alabama dropped the ball. Just like in the NFL, when teams drop the ball, they don't play. Unfortunately, college football doesn't have that integrity. The committee overstepped its authority, which resulted in an FSU team that didn't bring 29 of its players choosing not to show up. 29 players missing. In a game of 11 vs 11. FSU didn't have their 2 starting RBs, their 2nd string QB, their starting WRs, their starting TE, 3 starting d linemen, 2 starting linebackers and three of their starting DBs. They had to start their third string, freshman QB. That's the story. You have zero idea of team strength for this reason. The Orange Bowl offers zero justification for the playoff snub, and anyone on here pointing to it as evidence for the committee's decision is a moron. The president of FSU should have had the balls to make a statement by just not going, but we took our second and third stringers to a slaughter for money. They embarrassed themselves. The lead across the nation is the blowout, and all the corruption is forgotten. I don't know why anyone would support this trash. We live in a nation of geniuses. /sarcasm We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
12-31-2023, 06:24 PM
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(12-31-2023, 05:28 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: So you didn't answer any questions. Explain Bama needing a miracle to beat Auburn. Explain why 20 points is good enough to get in, but 16 isn't. You can't. It's just rah rah football [BLEEP]. Follow the money works everywhere at every level in this country. There is no purity Alabama struggled with Auburn, yes. FSU also barely beat Boston friggin' College. I think they almost lost to Miami team, too, and were outplayed by Clemson and struggled with some other really average to below-average teams. And some of those games were with Travis. But again, the ACC was HORRIBLE this year. They were the worst power 5 conference in football. If you take FSU out of the equation, the Mountain West or American Conference was arguably better. I don't give a crap about stakeholders or conference money or any of that garbage. The SEC is the best conference in college football for a reason. They've won like 12 of the last 15 national championships or something like that. If they're biased towards that conference, they have a damn good reason to be. So if you're going to tell me FSU should be in the playoff, that's fine. But please don't cry and say they should be in over Alabama or Georgia because that's almost as dumb as an argument as those saying that Liberty should be in the Final 4. Over Texas? I can maybe agree with that. As for yesterday's game, it is what it is. I think Georgia would have beat them down even if they had all their starters in minus Travis, but that's just based on what I've seen this year from the two teams. Georgia, IMO, is the best team in the country when they are full strength. They prolly beat Bama 7 out of 10 times. And we could go round and round on that convo and it will get nowhere. Obviously, FSU homers are going to say otherwise, so whatever. But in my opinion, the best 4 teams in the country and what should have been the Final 4 are Michigan, Georgia, Bama and either Texas/Washington. If FSU has Travis, then they're probably better than Texas/Washington and are definitely in. And before you say injuries shouldn't matter, then tell that to the committee who put it in bold print that they do matter.
I have to side with the Seminoles in this one. I also believe the committee thought about tv ratings when choosing Alabama over FSU. FSU played in a major conference and beat everybody they played, including LSU from the mighty SEC (and handily, at that). Their defense was very good the entire season and the offense had some future NFL players (Coleman, Wilson, Benson and Bell) not named Jordan Travis. FSU earned the right to play for the National title and this decision was just one more black mark against the crooked, money hungry NCAA. This is an unbiased opinion as I have no allegiance to FSU.
12-31-2023, 10:25 PM
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(12-31-2023, 07:00 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: I have to side with the Seminoles in this one. I also believe the committee thought about tv ratings when choosing Alabama over FSU. FSU played in a major conference and beat everybody they played, including LSU from the mighty SEC (and handily, at that). Their defense was very good the entire season and the offense had some future NFL players (Coleman, Wilson, Benson and Bell) not named Jordan Travis. FSU earned the right to play for the National title and this decision was just one more black mark against the crooked, money hungry NCAA. This is an unbiased opinion as I have no allegiance to FSU. This was my gripe. They were basically saying the regular season didn’t matter. Why play the regular season? Why not just pick your favorite four teams and play the playoffs? FSU would absolutely have gotten their [BLEEP] kicked by any number of teams including some not in the final four. But they EARNED the right to play in the playoffs whether they got their [BLEEP] kicked or not. (And I also have no allegiance to ANY college team) ![]() (12-31-2023, 10:25 PM)RicoTx Wrote:And this… is why college football is the worst and pointless to a certain extent.(12-31-2023, 07:00 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: I have to side with the Seminoles in this one. I also believe the committee thought about tv ratings when choosing Alabama over FSU. FSU played in a major conference and beat everybody they played, including LSU from the mighty SEC (and handily, at that). Their defense was very good the entire season and the offense had some future NFL players (Coleman, Wilson, Benson and Bell) not named Jordan Travis. FSU earned the right to play for the National title and this decision was just one more black mark against the crooked, money hungry NCAA. This is an unbiased opinion as I have no allegiance to FSU. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
I felt bad for the committee this year. Most years they can't avoid criticism, but this year they were really handed the poopy end of the stick. They have the task of selecting the 4 best teams to compete for the Natty.. That's it, that is their only job. There are 5 major conferences, SEC, ACC, Big 10 and whatever the old southwest conference is calling itself these days (Big12). Five conferences 4 spots. Well 2 of the 3 undefeated teams were no brainers, Washington (Pac) and Michigan (Big10). Now you have the ACC, SEC and Big12, one of these guys is gonna be disappointed.
Leaving out the SEC champion is a no-no. To be the Champ you gotta beat the Champ, and lately the Champ has been the SEC. Since the CFP began in 2014 the SEC has won 6 of 9. (The last 4 in a row) They also won 7 of the last 8 BCS championships. So Alabama has to be in. Since Texas beat Alabama in the second week the Big12 champ is in and the ACC is out injury or no injury. Last thought is that if FSU was really upset and felt they EARNED the right to play they had a chance to show up the committee against Georgia. A chance to show that letting them in wasn't a gift, instead it was poor me and they laid down. Not the guys who played in the game for them, the ones that hit the parachute and didn't. Remember the task of the committee is selecting the 4 best teams to compete for the Natty
A new broom always sweeps clean.
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Liberty vs FSU woulda been a great game. FSU might actually have a shot to keep it close!
(01-01-2024, 04:48 PM)WingerDinger Wrote:(01-01-2024, 04:37 PM)Jagger Wrote: Liberty vs FSU woulda been a great game. FSU might actually have a shot to keep it close! Loosen up dude. Have a sense of humor. Hey I’m a Navy fan. My team sucks. We didn’t make a bowl. FSUs scrubs would spank us.
(01-01-2024, 05:03 PM)Jagger Wrote:(01-01-2024, 04:48 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: Bad troll job. Sorry, I'm always on the lookout for a good troll throw down. That's my thing.. Friendly fire. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Who, in their right mind, would be interested in watching the Rose Bowl on a split screen shared with Pat McAfee blathering on the sidelines?
(12-31-2023, 07:00 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: I have to side with the Seminoles in this one. I also believe the committee thought about tv ratings when choosing Alabama over FSU. FSU played in a major conference and beat everybody they played, including LSU from the mighty SEC (and handily, at that). Their defense was very good the entire season and the offense had some future NFL players (Coleman, Wilson, Benson and Bell) not named Jordan Travis. FSU earned the right to play for the National title and this decision was just one more black mark against the crooked, money hungry NCAA. This is an unbiased opinion as I have no allegiance to FSU. Alabama beat LSU, too...plus two teams better than them. So that's why I say Alabama's not the team people should argue that FSU should be in over. I feel Texas has the weakest resume of any top-6 team, but that win over Bama forced the committee to put them in. You just can't leave an SEC team out unless they had two or more losses. All they do is win national championship year after year. They are the best conference without a doubt until someone can prove otherwise. Anyways, I'm kind of sick of that topic. Now the real games start. So far, Michigan looks really tight, which is surprising given this is their third straight year in the playoff. They should have gotten their choice of opponent as the No. 1 team, in which case I promise you, they wouldn't choose Bama. |
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