Give him 60m per year already before it's too late

Well, that's stupid.

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Give him 60m per year already before it's too late

Well, that's stupid.

Why? this guy is clearly a generational talent. Mahomes would not do better here.

In no order:

Montana
Brady
Manning
Trevor

No one else comes close.

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I am a fan, not a cheerleader.

I don't think Trevor or his agent will be looking for a long term deal after this season.

I think they would rather negotiate a long term contract after having a better season.

That said, if Trevor makes the post season and leads the Jags to an AFC championship, I think they will feel like they have the leverage to make a long term deal that will command an elite contract.

Otherwise, I think they will bet on him having a better season next year and then have more leverage to get a better deal.

Lawrence has all the leverage regardless. They either pony up and pay him whatever he wants, or this Franchise goes back into the dumpster. Those are the options.

Lawrence has no leverage.

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Not after this season, I would wait to see if he develops into a reliable option.

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This needs to play out as stated earlier on my end. Least of my concerns until we get into 2025. This offensive line needs fixed, Rauscher needs to go as well. We need a running game and Lawrence needs to dial back on turnovers. Whether he's a victim of circumstance or not. He has to protect it better.

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Daniel Jones money. Nothing more.

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Paying Trevor=paying Bortles

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Let's waste a huge amount of our salary cap for an average QB

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[BLEEP] Trevor I'm done with his [BLEEP]

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This is a pointless discussion if Baalke, Press, and Caldwell remain.

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Well, that's stupid.

Why? this guy is clearly a generational talent. Mahomes would not do better here.

In no order:

Montana
Brady
Manning
Trevor

No one else comes close.

hurr durr, 

Didn't you see how Ridley failed him? And Engram's fumble/interception. That bum.

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Lawrence has all the leverage regardless. They either pony up and pay him whatever he wants, or this Franchise goes back into the dumpster. Those are the options.

Lawrence has no leverage.

He definitely does. This is a 3-4 win team without him. This defense just let a washed Henry cook them for 160.

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Paying Trevor=paying Bortles

Lol no, as big of a critic I have been of Trevor, he is better than Blake... Noticeably. HOWEVER, Blake didn't even deserve to be a starter in this league, he was awful. Trevor is a serviceable QB, he has flashed but his consistency and turnover problems put him in the middle of the QB pecking order imo. His real worth is probably around 30-35 mil, if we resign him we probably have to overypay and he likely gets 40 AAV. I think signing him to any higher AAV is a disaster though, dude just isn't that great of a QB and I would hate to see 15-20% of our cap go to a mid QB.

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The biggest thing with Trevor is that there are too many big moments/plays where Trevor just does not feel calm in the pocket. It feels like they try to cover that with quick reads and getting ball out early, but it looks more like Trever "predeterminating" where he is going with the ball instead of making the right play.

Some of that can definitely be on IOL pressure, inconsistent WR play, and play calling. Just look at KC who is struggling due to similar issues despite a HoF QB and Coach.

However, Trevor just doesn't have enough of the history of consistently playing great to trust that he can be the the guy. As much as people are overstating it by calling him Bortles.

The issue though is that this team is not constructed to win without having "the guy" at QB. This is not a franchise run like the 49ers or Ravens in the FO/draft room, and they do not have force-multipliers on the coaching stuff like the LA Rams or 49ers.

Biggest thing of this whole s***storm, is what Trevor thinks. Does he come to the table demanding being treated like Kyler, Herbert, etc.? Or could you convince him to take a David Jones/Cousins like deal? Because the latter deal gives you a few more years without completely hamstringing the team.

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Paying Trevor=paying Bortles

Lol no, as big of a critic I have been of Trevor, he is better than Blake... Noticeably.

Sure, but thinking Trevor is just a borderline top-10 QB even when healthy apparently makes you a hater.

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Allen's contract is is the one that is the priority.

Lawrence can play next year under his current contract.

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The biggest thing with Trevor is that there are too many big moments/plays where Trevor just does not feel calm in the pocket. It feels like they try to cover that with quick reads and getting ball out early, but it looks more like Trever "predeterminating" where he is going with the ball instead of making the right play.

Some of that can definitely be on IOL pressure, inconsistent WR play, and play calling. Just look at KC who is struggling due to similar issues despite a HoF QB and Coach.

However, Trevor just doesn't have enough of the history of consistently playing great to trust that he can be the  the guy. As much as people are overstating it by calling him Bortles.

The issue though is that this team is not constructed to win without having "the guy" at QB. This is not a franchise run like the 49ers or Ravens in the FO/draft room, and they do not have force-multipliers on the coaching stuff like the LA Rams or 49ers.

Biggest thing of this whole s***storm, is what Trevor thinks. Does he come to the table demanding being treated like Kyler, Herbert, etc.? Or could you convince him to take a David Jones/Cousins like deal? Because the latter deal gives you a few more years without completely hamstringing the team.

Sometimes I read things like your comment and wonder if people understand how playing QB works.

Do you think Trevor gets the ball, takes a couple of steps back, and just randomly looks around to see if he can spot anyone that happened to come open?

He is literally looking at the defensive alignment, diagnosing what they're doing, and then deciding which route that was in the call should be coming open against it, and when.

If he doesn't see that a defender on the back side of the play falls down and a guy is wide open that's normal, he's trying to throw where the design of the play and defense dictates its supposed to go.

Sometimes the guy he expects to come open doesn't, and he'll try to find someone else even if they aren't supposed to come open, but with how bad the offensive line has been all season I'm guessing most of the time he was thinking about how he needed to start running more than anything.

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No mega deal. 3rd year in the league, still throws too high, too low, too hard, too far away, too many INTs and fumbles. Keep him as a back up and draft a new QB.

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No mega deal. 3rd year in the league, still throws too high, too low, too hard, too far away, too many INTs and fumbles. Keep him as a back up and draft a new QB.

LOL

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Season over and with everything put into perspective..

I still say Yes!!

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