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Trevor Lawrence: Franchise QB (TL Discussion, Merged Threads)


So just ignoring that Trevor hid his Wonderlic citing privacy rights?
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(01-14-2024, 11:56 PM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: So just ignoring that Trevor hid his Wonderlic citing privacy rights?

Dude come on. Let's stop attacking OUR QB with this kind of nonsense.
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https://x.com/Ihartitz/status/1744781890182054242?s=20

Here’s a compilation of our WRs dropping/not getting feet in for 16tds for Trevor this year.

But yeah, he’s trash
IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS
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(01-14-2024, 11:56 PM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: So just ignoring that Trevor hid his Wonderlic citing privacy rights?

Hey, you know who DID share his score? Blaine Gabbert. He was really [BLEEP] proud of that 42.
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(01-14-2024, 08:55 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(01-14-2024, 08:39 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: I award you a gold medal in the mental gymnastics.

His logic is simple.

When we win its down to the run game or D. When we lose its because of Trevor.

If you say so.

(01-15-2024, 08:44 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: https://x.com/Ihartitz/status/1744781890182054242?s=20

Here’s a compilation of our WRs dropping/not getting feet in for 16tds for Trevor this year.

But yeah, he’s trash


And here's a video of him making some of the worst throws i've ever seen.


But yeah, he's good. 

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(01-14-2024, 09:51 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-14-2024, 09:19 PM)carp8dm Wrote: Ya'll ever noticed that we always get to the Line of scrimmage with less than 10 seconds on the clock?

Does Trevor not have the ability to communicate the play call in the huddle earlier than that?  

And why is he always audibling?  

I just don't get it.  This offense looked so unorganized all the time.

If you watch any other QB, they have nowhere near the amount of delay of game penalties.  But Trevor has at least 2 each game.  It's like he's confused about what we're gonna do and there's a debate going on for 20 seconds.  And then finally, a play is agreed upon and we break the huddle with 10 seconds left.

Does Trevor not know how to communicate the play calling that is coming from Doug and Press?  

Dilla mentioned there may be a disconnect between Trevor and the plays being called.  Lots of people are talking about that...  I'm just wondering if that may be an issue.

The Jaguars had 7 delay of game penalties this season you idiot. 2 a game...geez what a moron.

The question about disconnect is still valid IMO. It's just gossip at this stage but if Jeremy Lawrence is liking things that suggest the Lawrence family thinks this then there's a problem.

If Trevor is audibling and the line, receivers aren't on the same page then that's a problem that's on Trevor isn't it?
If Trevor is audibling because the playcall is garbage then it's on Press, isn't it? 
If the playcall is fine but Trevor thinks it needs audible and the play fails it's on Trevor, isn't it?
Equally if the audible works then it's thanks to Trevor, isn't it?

What do people like John Shipley or Mia O'Brien say about this? Silence?
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I think the fact Trevor audibled himself into the dive play against the titans shows his lack of faith in Press
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(01-15-2024, 09:03 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(01-14-2024, 08:55 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: His logic is simple.

When we win its down to the run game or D. When we lose its because of Trevor.

If you say so.

(01-15-2024, 08:44 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: https://x.com/Ihartitz/status/1744781890182054242?s=20

Here’s a compilation of our WRs dropping/not getting feet in for 16tds for Trevor this year.

But yeah, he’s trash


And here's a video of him making some of the worst throws i've ever seen.


But yeah, he's good. 

Yes because a handful of bad passes from his disastrous rookie year are indicative of where he is currently. At least my video is from this season. I'm not denying he's made some bad throws, this year included, but come on man. You know who else can have a compilation of bad throws? Every QB in the league. How many other QBs had 16 TDs dropped this year alone?
IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS
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(01-15-2024, 09:34 AM)CanDoBetter Wrote:
(01-14-2024, 09:51 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: The Jaguars had 7 delay of game penalties this season you idiot. 2 a game...geez what a moron.

The question about disconnect is still valid IMO. It's just gossip at this stage but if Jeremy Lawrence is liking things that suggest the Lawrence family thinks this then there's a problem.

If Trevor is audibling and the line, receivers aren't on the same page then that's a problem that's on Trevor isn't it?
If Trevor is audibling because the playcall is garbage then it's on Press, isn't it? 
If the playcall is fine but Trevor thinks it needs audible and the play fails it's on Trevor, isn't it?
Equally if the audible works then it's thanks to Trevor, isn't it?

What do people like John Shipley or Mia O'Brien say about this? Silence?
No its NEVER Trevors fault. His new nickname ahould be “Never Trevor”

(01-15-2024, 09:39 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote:
(01-15-2024, 09:03 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: If you say so.



And here's a video of him making some of the worst throws i've ever seen.


But yeah, he's good. 

Yes because a handful of bad passes from his disastrous rookie year are indicative of where he is currently. At least my video is from this season. I'm not denying he's made some bad throws, this year included, but come on man. You know who else can have a compilation of bad throws? Every QB in the league. How many other QBs had 16 TDs dropped this year alone?

Lmao just stop. Hes never been good in the NFL when he is u can keep that narrative
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(01-15-2024, 09:40 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(01-15-2024, 09:34 AM)CanDoBetter Wrote: The question about disconnect is still valid IMO. It's just gossip at this stage but if Jeremy Lawrence is liking things that suggest the Lawrence family thinks this then there's a problem.

If Trevor is audibling and the line, receivers aren't on the same page then that's a problem that's on Trevor isn't it?
If Trevor is audibling because the playcall is garbage then it's on Press, isn't it? 
If the playcall is fine but Trevor thinks it needs audible and the play fails it's on Trevor, isn't it?
Equally if the audible works then it's thanks to Trevor, isn't it?

What do people like John Shipley or Mia O'Brien say about this? Silence?
No its NEVER Trevors fault. His new nickname ahould be “Never Trevor”

(01-15-2024, 09:39 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: Yes because a handful of bad passes from his disastrous rookie year are indicative of where he is currently. At least my video is from this season. I'm not denying he's made some bad throws, this year included, but come on man. You know who else can have a compilation of bad throws? Every QB in the league. How many other QBs had 16 TDs dropped this year alone?

Lmao just stop. Hes never been good in the NFL when he is u can keep that narrative
Continue to make yourself look like a fool. He was playing as a top 5 QB during our playoff push last year and led the second greatest comeback in playoff history. So much so that you even changed your signature. So if he was “never good” then why did you change it? Were you secretly still thinking he “was never good” which is it? This is why you’re such a joke here. You make statements that he’s trash bust never good etc (all words you’ve used) then backpedal and claim we’re twisting your words
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(01-15-2024, 09:03 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(01-14-2024, 08:55 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: His logic is simple.

When we win its down to the run game or D. When we lose its because of Trevor.

If you say so.

(01-15-2024, 08:44 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: https://x.com/Ihartitz/status/1744781890182054242?s=20

Here’s a compilation of our WRs dropping/not getting feet in for 16tds for Trevor this year.

But yeah, he’s trash


And here's a video of him making some of the worst throws i've ever seen.


But yeah, he's good. 

Wow. A one minute and 20 second long video of predominately him sailing passes as a rookie in his first 10 career starts. Swing and a miss.

(01-15-2024, 10:26 AM)SamusAranX Wrote:
(01-15-2024, 09:40 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: No its NEVER Trevors fault. His new nickname ahould be “Never Trevor”


Lmao just stop. Hes never been good in the NFL when he is u can keep that narrative
Continue to make yourself look like a fool. He was playing as a top 5 QB during our playoff push last year and led the second greatest comeback in playoff history. So much so that you even changed your signature. So if he was “never good” then why did you change it? Were you secretly still thinking he “was never good” which is it? This is why you’re such a joke here. You make statements that he’s trash bust never good etc (all words you’ve used) then backpedal and claim we’re twisting your words

Because he's a contrarian masochist.
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(01-15-2024, 10:27 AM)Caldrac Wrote:
(01-15-2024, 09:03 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: If you say so.



And here's a video of him making some of the worst throws i've ever seen.


But yeah, he's good. 

Wow. A one minute and 20 second long video of predominately him sailing passes as a rookie in his first 10 career starts. Swing and a miss.

(01-15-2024, 10:26 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: Continue to make yourself look like a fool. He was playing as a top 5 QB during our playoff push last year and led the second greatest comeback in playoff history. So much so that you even changed your signature. So if he was “never good” then why did you change it? Were you secretly still thinking he “was never good” which is it? This is why you’re such a joke here. You make statements that he’s trash bust never good etc (all words you’ve used) then backpedal and claim we’re twisting your words

Because he's a contrarian masochist. moron.

FTFY
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(01-15-2024, 10:27 AM)Caldrac Wrote:
(01-15-2024, 09:03 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: If you say so.



And here's a video of him making some of the worst throws i've ever seen.


But yeah, he's good. 

Wow. A one minute and 20 second long video of predominately him sailing passes as a rookie in his first 10 career starts. Swing and a miss.


Laughing 

It is literally just a short reel of him throwing some rookie interceptions.

That really is CJB's biggest problem, his trolling is so low effort that it's obvious its trolling.
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(01-15-2024, 10:56 AM)SeldomRite Wrote:
(01-15-2024, 10:27 AM)Caldrac Wrote: Wow. A one minute and 20 second long video of predominately him sailing passes as a rookie in his first 10 career starts. Swing and a miss.


Laughing 

It is literally just a short reel of him throwing some rookie interceptions.

That really is CJB's biggest problem, his trolling is so low effort that it's obvious its trolling.

Now that's not fair, he works really, really hard to be as good at it as he is. He can't help his low IQ problem and we should applaud how well he's done to achieve even the low grade reputation he's achieved. He's obviously putting out content well about his intelligence level.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(01-15-2024, 11:47 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-15-2024, 10:56 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: Laughing 

It is literally just a short reel of him throwing some rookie interceptions.

That really is CJB's biggest problem, his trolling is so low effort that it's obvious its trolling.

Now that's not fair, he works really, really hard to be as good at it as he is. He can't help his low IQ problem and we should applaud how well he's done to achieve even the low grade reputation he's achieved. He's obviously putting out content well about his intelligence level.

Nah I just have to fight fire with fire. I'm more than open to have legitimate discussions about any position on the team, but when one side is a bunch of homer morons with 0 football IQ trying to pass blame onto everyone but the golden child, i'm going to just continue to have a one sided conversation the same way you all do. 

At least NYC gives effort and statistics, all you other baffoons do is say "OH HE DUMB, BAD TAKE, HE SAY LAWRENCE BUST OONGA BOONGA BUNGA" 

Anyone saying Trevor is a bust isn't watching the games. Anyone saying he's a guranteed top 10 QB is REALLY not watching the games. 

At this point in time, he's just a serviceable starter at best who needs perfect conditions to succeed.. he is not on any of the top 5-10 qbs level as of right now and to claim he's at that level is utter stupidity.
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(01-15-2024, 08:44 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: https://x.com/Ihartitz/status/1744781890182054242?s=20

Here’s a compilation of our WRs dropping/not getting feet in for 16tds for Trevor this year.

But yeah, he’s trash

16 missed TD's THIS YEAR by this receiving corps that CJB thinks is better than average. LOL
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(01-15-2024, 12:11 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(01-15-2024, 11:47 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Now that's not fair, he works really, really hard to be as good at it as he is. He can't help his low IQ problem and we should applaud how well he's done to achieve even the low grade reputation he's achieved. He's obviously putting out content well about his intelligence level.

Nah I just have to fight fire with fire. I'm more than open to have legitimate discussions about any position on the team, but when one side is a bunch of homer morons with 0 football IQ trying to pass blame onto everyone but the golden child, i'm going to just continue to have a one sided conversation the same way you all do. 

At least NYC gives effort and statistics, all you other baffoons do is say "OH HE DUMB, BAD TAKE, HE SAY LAWRENCE BUST OONGA BOONGA BUNGA" 

Anyone saying Trevor is a bust isn't watching the games. Anyone saying he's a guranteed top 10 QB is REALLY not watching the games. 

At this point in time, he's just a serviceable starter at best who needs perfect conditions to succeed.. he is not on any of the top 5-10 qbs level as of right now and to claim he's at that level is utter stupidity.

I don't think anyone would argue with that.  What has he been so far?  A serviceable starter.  The question is, what will he be in the future?  You are on record saying you don't know the answer to that.  Everyone else apparently has the same opinion.  Personally, I think he will be an elite QB.  But I don't know that.  And I am sure a lot of people feel the same way.  They don't really know the answer to that, either.  

You're also on record saying that if Trevor had a better offensive line, he'd look a lot better.  So you're blaming other players just as much as other people are.  

So really, if we put everyone on the record, what is Trevor right now, and what will he be in the future, I don't think there'd be that much of an argument.  So I don't know why this particular argument goes on and one and on.  Probably it's "I'm only arguing because he's arguing."  "No, I'm only arguing because he's arguing."  

You go negative because you see too much positivity from other people.  They go positive because they see too much negativity from you.  Why does this go on and on and on?  I guess everyone enjoys it, otherwise, they wouldn't do it.
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(01-15-2024, 12:33 PM)PV=nRT Wrote:
(01-15-2024, 08:44 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: https://x.com/Ihartitz/status/1744781890182054242?s=20

Here’s a compilation of our WRs dropping/not getting feet in for 16tds for Trevor this year.

But yeah, he’s trash

16 missed TD's THIS YEAR by this receiving corps that CJB thinks is better than average.  LOL

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news...the%20Rams.

Chiefs lead league in drops, we are not even top 10.

We had 26 drops

They had 44.

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(01-15-2024, 12:35 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(01-15-2024, 12:11 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Nah I just have to fight fire with fire. I'm more than open to have legitimate discussions about any position on the team, but when one side is a bunch of homer morons with 0 football IQ trying to pass blame onto everyone but the golden child, i'm going to just continue to have a one sided conversation the same way you all do. 

At least NYC gives effort and statistics, all you other baffoons do is say "OH HE DUMB, BAD TAKE, HE SAY LAWRENCE BUST OONGA BOONGA BUNGA" 

Anyone saying Trevor is a bust isn't watching the games. Anyone saying he's a guranteed top 10 QB is REALLY not watching the games. 

At this point in time, he's just a serviceable starter at best who needs perfect conditions to succeed.. he is not on any of the top 5-10 qbs level as of right now and to claim he's at that level is utter stupidity.

I don't think anyone would argue with that.  What has he been so far?  A serviceable starter.  The question is, what will he be in the future?  You are on record saying you don't know the answer to that.  Everyone else apparently has the same opinion.  Personally, I think he will be an elite QB.  But I don't know that.  And I am sure a lot of people feel the same way.  They don't really know the answer to that, either.  

You're also on record saying that if Trevor had a better offensive line, he'd look a lot better.  So you're blaming other players just as much as other people are.  

So really, if we put everyone on the record, what is Trevor right now, and what will he be in the future, I don't think there'd be that much of an argument.  So I don't know why this particular argument goes on and one and on.  Probably it's "I'm only arguing because he's arguing."  "No, I'm only arguing because he's arguing."

CJ Stroud was never a "generational" talent until he got to the League. Lawrence was crowned as a freshman in college.

CJ is better in every single category in his first year than Trevor is in his third. He's smarter (even with the lowest Wonderlic in his draft class - I bet Trevor's was lower) he's more accurate and he's not an idiot when throwing a 5 yard pass he doesn't put all his throwing force into it. So no drops for INTs. 

Trevor is a HUGE disappointment compared to what all the national pundits claimed he was.

He will never be mentioned in the same breath as the greats.

He will just be a starting QB.
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(01-15-2024, 12:35 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(01-15-2024, 12:11 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Nah I just have to fight fire with fire. I'm more than open to have legitimate discussions about any position on the team, but when one side is a bunch of homer morons with 0 football IQ trying to pass blame onto everyone but the golden child, i'm going to just continue to have a one sided conversation the same way you all do. 

At least NYC gives effort and statistics, all you other baffoons do is say "OH HE DUMB, BAD TAKE, HE SAY LAWRENCE BUST OONGA BOONGA BUNGA" 

Anyone saying Trevor is a bust isn't watching the games. Anyone saying he's a guranteed top 10 QB is REALLY not watching the games. 

At this point in time, he's just a serviceable starter at best who needs perfect conditions to succeed.. he is not on any of the top 5-10 qbs level as of right now and to claim he's at that level is utter stupidity.

I don't think anyone would argue with that.  What has he been so far?  A serviceable starter.  The question is, what will he be in the future?  You are on record saying you don't know the answer to that.  Everyone else apparently has the same opinion.  Personally, I think he will be an elite QB.  But I don't know that.  And I am sure a lot of people feel the same way.  They don't really know the answer to that, either.  

You're also on record saying that if Trevor had a better offensive line, he'd look a lot better.  So you're blaming other players just as much as other people are.  

So really, if we put everyone on the record, what is Trevor right now, and what will he be in the future, I don't think there'd be that much of an argument.  So I don't know why this particular argument goes on and one and on.  Probably it's "I'm only arguing because he's arguing."  "No, I'm only arguing because he's arguing."  

You go negative because you see too much positivity from other people.  They go positive because they see too much negativity from you.  Why does this go on and on and on?  I guess everyone enjoys it, otherwise, they wouldn't do it.
Everyone here knows the truth, I just say it.

The problem isn't with me, the problem is they don't want to admit what they're own eyes tell them.

Let's be frank, if Trevor was on the titans/texans/colts the past 3 years absolutely no one on this board would worry about him based on how he's played.
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