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(This post was last modified: 06-18-2024, 02:55 PM by HURRICANE!!!. Edited 3 times in total.)

(06-18-2024, 02:43 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(06-18-2024, 02:22 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: Life was great under Bush too, considering all of the eased bank loan requirements and the vast appreciation in housing values.   Business was booming .... then .... CRASH .... the recession.   Every good or bad sequence of events does not begin and end at the beginning and end of each presidential term.  In fact, many presidents benefit or are adversely impacted by what the prior president did during his term in office.

With inflation down to a manageable level and unemployment at a very acceptable level, I'd have to say those in charge, have done a remarkable job at balancing what could have been a severe recession.

OK ..OK .. OK.... regardless of the above, I'm a lot less concerned about the presidential election this time around than I was in 2016.  I think both candidates have the + to balance their - so at this point, I'm probably 50/50 on policies but don't like one candidate more than I don't like the other candidate.  With that in mind, I could see myself voting republican in 2028, but not this year.  I think my voting record is ~ 2/3 Dems over Republicans .... as far as i can remember, it was Clinton, Bush, Obama, Romney, H Clinton, Biden.

I see math isn't your strong point.

Obviously your judgment is lacking a bunch as well if you voted for hillary and biden.

Also, if your boy Obama was doing so well, why vote for the rino Romney?

I voted 2/3 of the time Dems over Republicans  --->   4 Dems and 2 Republicans I voted for.   I'm not certain why you are contesting my math, to which I actually got a 640 score on my math SAT back in the day.....

I could say the same about people voting for Trump ..... duh, but some like to waste the day away debating about Trump & Biden, but I tend to be a little more productive with my time.  Although, I'm still guilty to a certain extent.

Regarding Obama, that was a tough one but I was working a Mayport NS and he was taking measures that could cut 600,000 Defense jobs so that was a really high priority for me at that time.  If left anyway for a much better job so it was a blessing in disguise.   I do like Romney though so I consider that a good moral vote, which I'm sure some of you struggle with such a concept.
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#42

(06-18-2024, 10:41 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(06-17-2024, 10:59 PM)copycat Wrote: Lol.  If we are going to play that game, then you acknowledge what a horrible term Biden has had screwing up everything Obama fixed.

Do you actually know economics or do you get your info from Fox News?  That's a rhetorical question, since I already know the answer to that question.

The US could not keep interest rates at 0%.  There was a surge of spending after Covid.  In the US, the economy does simply do a 180 upon the country's change in leadership.  Personally, the Fed, who is primarily responsible for inflation/deflation is doing a great job at controlling the market, without any severe indication of a recession (aka Soft Landing).    Conversely, they probably should have raised the rates earlier in the game and not listened to Trump urging them to keep rates at 0%.

That said, the economy goes in cycles so I'm not really here to blame Trump or Biden but rather make the most of the situation and bargain shop (which I've been doing all my life) and take advantage of what the stock market presents under each President & Fed Chair.

Let's be real: You don't actually "know" politics. You read what certain experts tell you about economics.
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(06-18-2024, 02:48 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(06-18-2024, 02:43 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: I see math isn't your strong point.

Obviously your judgment is lacking a bunch as well if you voted for hillary and biden.

Also, if your boy Obama was doing so well, why vote for the rino Romney?

I voted 2/3 of the time Dems over Republicans  --->   4 Dems and 2 Republicans I voted for.   I'm not certain why you are contesting my math, to which I actually got a 640 score on my math SAT back in the day.....

I could say the same about people voting for Trump ..... duh, but some like to waste the day away debating about Trump & Biden, but I tend to be a little more productive with my time.  Although, I'm still guilty to a certain extent.

Regarding Obama, that was a tough one but I was working a Mayport NS and he was taking measures that could cut 600,000 Defense jobs so that was a really high priority for me at that time.  If left anyway for a much better job so it was a blessing in disguise.   I do like Romney though so I consider that a good moral vote, which I'm sure some of you struggle with such a concept.

I stand corrected.  I was looking at your list of bad candidates.

Romney - RINO that should have never been nominated.
Obama - stoked the "race wars" in this country, never did anything good.
Hillary - probably one of the most crooked and corrupt politicians that we have ever seen.
Biden - a bumbling idiot that had/has dementia which is getting worse.

I somehow counted those as 4 democrats.

Bill Clinton wasn't really a bad President mostly because of the Republican controlled congress during his term.  There was a pretty good book that I read regarding his and Newt Gingrich's (then House Speaker) relationship during that time.  His only real "ding" was getting a nobber by a White House intern.

George Bush was the right President during his term, especially after the events on 9/11.  He was shunned by most of the MSM when it was brought up about sub-prime mortgages and the stability of Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac was brought up (remember bawney frank?).

Going into this election should be a no-brainer.  Can we really withstand a geriatric with clear signs of dementia to be in the White House for another 4 years?  If the geriatric can't complete a 4 year term, what would the cackling idiot that is a DEI appointment as vice-president destroy next?


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#44

I really wish you guys would read more about the wef.i think it would change some of your opinion on these presidents.
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#45

(06-18-2024, 03:42 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(06-18-2024, 02:48 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: I voted 2/3 of the time Dems over Republicans  --->   4 Dems and 2 Republicans I voted for.   I'm not certain why you are contesting my math, to which I actually got a 640 score on my math SAT back in the day.....

I could say the same about people voting for Trump ..... duh, but some like to waste the day away debating about Trump & Biden, but I tend to be a little more productive with my time.  Although, I'm still guilty to a certain extent.

Regarding Obama, that was a tough one but I was working a Mayport NS and he was taking measures that could cut 600,000 Defense jobs so that was a really high priority for me at that time.  If left anyway for a much better job so it was a blessing in disguise.   I do like Romney though so I consider that a good moral vote, which I'm sure some of you struggle with such a concept.

I stand corrected.  I was looking at your list of bad candidates.

Romney - RINO that should have never been nominated.
Obama - stoked the "race wars" in this country, never did anything good.
Hillary - probably one of the most crooked and corrupt politicians that we have ever seen.
Biden - a bumbling idiot that had/has dementia which is getting worse.

I somehow counted those as 4 democrats.

Bill Clinton wasn't really a bad President mostly because of the Republican controlled congress during his term.  There was a pretty good book that I read regarding his and Newt Gingrich's (then House Speaker) relationship during that time.  His only real "ding" was getting a nobber by a White House intern.

George Bush was the right President during his term, especially after the events on 9/11.  He was shunned by most of the MSM when it was brought up about sub-prime mortgages and the stability of Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac was brought up (remember bawney frank?).

Going into this election should be a no-brainer.  Can we really withstand a geriatric with clear signs of dementia to be in the White House for another 4 years?  If the geriatric can't complete a 4 year term, what would the cackling idiot that is a DEI appointment as vice-president destroy next?

Newt got a "knobber" from one of his interns also.

Then he divorced his wife and married her.
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(06-18-2024, 10:41 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(06-17-2024, 10:59 PM)copycat Wrote: Lol.  If we are going to play that game, then you acknowledge what a horrible term Biden has had screwing up everything Obama fixed.

Do you actually know economics or do you get your info from Fox News?  That's a rhetorical question, since I already know the answer to that question.

The US could not keep interest rates at 0%.  There was a surge of spending after Covid.  In the US, the economy does simply do a 180 upon the country's change in leadership.  Personally, the Fed, who is primarily responsible for inflation/deflation is doing a great job at controlling the market, without any severe indication of a recession (aka Soft Landing).    Conversely, they probably should have raised the rates earlier in the game and not listened to Trump urging them to keep rates at 0%.

That said, the economy goes in cycles so I'm not really here to blame Trump or Biden but rather make the most of the situation and bargain shop (which I've been doing all my life) and take advantage of what the stock market presents under each President & Fed Chair.

Ah yes the old liberal response of you don’t agree with me so you must get your info from Fox response.  Well done.

Let’s go back to my original question since you glossed over it and knock off the petty insults.  FYI, don’t try to educate me on the role of the FRB, I work there.
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(06-18-2024, 08:10 PM)copycat Wrote:
(06-18-2024, 10:41 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: Do you actually know economics or do you get your info from Fox News?  That's a rhetorical question, since I already know the answer to that question.

The US could not keep interest rates at 0%.  There was a surge of spending after Covid.  In the US, the economy does simply do a 180 upon the country's change in leadership.  Personally, the Fed, who is primarily responsible for inflation/deflation is doing a great job at controlling the market, without any severe indication of a recession (aka Soft Landing).    Conversely, they probably should have raised the rates earlier in the game and not listened to Trump urging them to keep rates at 0%.

That said, the economy goes in cycles so I'm not really here to blame Trump or Biden but rather make the most of the situation and bargain shop (which I've been doing all my life) and take advantage of what the stock market presents under each President & Fed Chair.

Ah yes the old liberal response of you don’t agree with me so you must get your info from Fox response.  Well done.

Let’s go back to my original question since you glossed over it and knock off the petty insults.  FYI, don’t try to educate me on the role of the FRB, I work there.

OH [BLEEP]!!!!
 
FED! FED! FED! 

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#48

(06-18-2024, 03:42 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(06-18-2024, 02:48 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: I voted 2/3 of the time Dems over Republicans  --->   4 Dems and 2 Republicans I voted for.   I'm not certain why you are contesting my math, to which I actually got a 640 score on my math SAT back in the day.....

I could say the same about people voting for Trump ..... duh, but some like to waste the day away debating about Trump & Biden, but I tend to be a little more productive with my time.  Although, I'm still guilty to a certain extent.

Regarding Obama, that was a tough one but I was working a Mayport NS and he was taking measures that could cut 600,000 Defense jobs so that was a really high priority for me at that time.  If left anyway for a much better job so it was a blessing in disguise.   I do like Romney though so I consider that a good moral vote, which I'm sure some of you struggle with such a concept.

I stand corrected.  I was looking at your list of bad candidates.

Romney - RINO that should have never been nominated.
Obama - stoked the "race wars" in this country, never did anything good.
Hillary - probably one of the most crooked and corrupt politicians that we have ever seen.
Biden - a bumbling idiot that had/has dementia which is getting worse.

I somehow counted those as 4 democrats.

Bill Clinton wasn't really a bad President mostly because of the Republican controlled congress during his term.  There was a pretty good book that I read regarding his and Newt Gingrich's (then House Speaker) relationship during that time.  His only real "ding" was getting a nobber by a White House intern.

George Bush was the right President during his term, especially after the events on 9/11.  He was shunned by most of the MSM when it was brought up about sub-prime mortgages and the stability of Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac was brought up (remember bawney frank?).

Going into this election should be a no-brainer.  Can we really withstand a geriatric with clear signs of dementia to be in the White House for another 4 years?  If the geriatric can't complete a 4 year term, what would the cackling idiot that is a DEI appointment as vice-president destroy next?

How did Obama stoke the race wars?  I mean, other than the fact that he was black and some white people couldn't stand that.
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(06-19-2024, 06:50 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(06-18-2024, 03:42 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: I stand corrected.  I was looking at your list of bad candidates.

Romney - RINO that should have never been nominated.
Obama - stoked the "race wars" in this country, never did anything good.
Hillary - probably one of the most crooked and corrupt politicians that we have ever seen.
Biden - a bumbling idiot that had/has dementia which is getting worse.

I somehow counted those as 4 democrats.

Bill Clinton wasn't really a bad President mostly because of the Republican controlled congress during his term.  There was a pretty good book that I read regarding his and Newt Gingrich's (then House Speaker) relationship during that time.  His only real "ding" was getting a nobber by a White House intern.

George Bush was the right President during his term, especially after the events on 9/11.  He was shunned by most of the MSM when it was brought up about sub-prime mortgages and the stability of Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac was brought up (remember bawney frank?).

Going into this election should be a no-brainer.  Can we really withstand a geriatric with clear signs of dementia to be in the White House for another 4 years?  If the geriatric can't complete a 4 year term, what would the cackling idiot that is a DEI appointment as vice-president destroy next?

How did Obama stoke the race wars?  I mean, other than the fact that he was black and some white people couldn't stand that.

I went to church with a guy who was, and probably still is, outraged by the one time Obama said that if he had a son, his son would look a lot like Trayvon Martin.

Obama, as a young man, did look a lot like Trayvon Martin. 

If a simple and objectively true comment like that is all you need to start a race war, buddy you were rearing to go already...
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(06-19-2024, 07:13 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(06-19-2024, 06:50 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: How did Obama stoke the race wars?  I mean, other than the fact that he was black and some white people couldn't stand that.

I went to church with a guy who was, and probably still is, outraged by the one time Obama said that if he had a son, his son would look a lot like Trayvon Martin.

Obama, as a young man, did look a lot like Trayvon Martin. 

If a simple and objectively true comment like that is all you need to start a race war, buddy you were rearing to go already...

How many young black men, who roughly resembled Obama, were arrested and/or convicted of rape, murder, drug trafficking, etc. throughout the country during his time in office?

Of all those young men, about how many did Obama comment that, if he had a son, his son would look a lot like that individual?

The comment was obviously intended to elicit sympathy for Trayvon Martin, at the expense of George Zimmerman, whom police had already determined to have been acting in self-defense.  Coincidentally, the incident occurred in the middle of the Presidential election cycle and Obama was quick to play the race card for his personal political gain.


There was also another incident, when a friend of his (who was black) was arrested and Obama spoke out immediately, stating the police (who were white) had acted "stupidly".
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#51

(06-19-2024, 09:05 AM)Sneakers Wrote:
(06-19-2024, 07:13 AM)mikesez Wrote: I went to church with a guy who was, and probably still is, outraged by the one time Obama said that if he had a son, his son would look a lot like Trayvon Martin.

Obama, as a young man, did look a lot like Trayvon Martin. 

If a simple and objectively true comment like that is all you need to start a race war, buddy you were rearing to go already...

How many young black men, who roughly resembled Obama, were arrested and/or convicted of rape, murder, drug trafficking, etc. throughout the country during his time in office?

Of all those young men, about how many did Obama comment that, if he had a son, his son would look a lot like that individual?

The comment was obviously intended to elicit sympathy for Trayvon Martin, at the expense of George Zimmerman, whom police had already determined to have been acting in self-defense.  Coincidentally, the incident occurred in the middle of the Presidential election cycle and Obama was quick to play the race card for his personal political gain.


There was also another incident, when a friend of his (who was black) was arrested and Obama spoke out immediately, stating the police (who were white) had acted "stupidly".

If that's enough to "stoke the race wars" then people are just waiting to be triggered.
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(06-19-2024, 09:05 AM)Sneakers Wrote:
(06-19-2024, 07:13 AM)mikesez Wrote: I went to church with a guy who was, and probably still is, outraged by the one time Obama said that if he had a son, his son would look a lot like Trayvon Martin.

Obama, as a young man, did look a lot like Trayvon Martin. 

If a simple and objectively true comment like that is all you need to start a race war, buddy you were rearing to go already...

How many young black men, who roughly resembled Obama, were arrested and/or convicted of rape, murder, drug trafficking, etc. throughout the country during his time in office?

Of all those young men, about how many did Obama comment that, if he had a son, his son would look a lot like that individual?

The comment was obviously intended to elicit sympathy for Trayvon Martin, at the expense of George Zimmerman, whom police had already determined to have been acting in self-defense.  Coincidentally, the incident occurred in the middle of the Presidential election cycle and Obama was quick to play the race card for his personal political gain.


There was also another incident, when a friend of his (who was black) was arrested and Obama spoke out immediately, stating the police (who were white) had acted "stupidly".

The police determined that they did not have enough witness testimony to prove that Zimmerman was not acting in self defense.

The witness testimony said the two men were wrestling.  They did not see the start of the physical fight and did not agree about who was "winning" that fight before the shot went off.

The one thing everyone, including Zimmerman, agreed about, was that Zimmerman had never seen Trayvon before, but suspected Trayvon of robbing homes in the neighborhood, and Zimmerman tried to pursue and contact him for that reason. 

And that was the one and only aspect of the case that Obama's comment was about. Obama said that he also got suspicious stares as a young man.  It's there in his autobiography, which he wrote before ever running for public office.
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#53

(06-19-2024, 09:16 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(06-19-2024, 09:05 AM)Sneakers Wrote: How many young black men, who roughly resembled Obama, were arrested and/or convicted of rape, murder, drug trafficking, etc. throughout the country during his time in office?

Of all those young men, about how many did Obama comment that, if he had a son, his son would look a lot like that individual?

The comment was obviously intended to elicit sympathy for Trayvon Martin, at the expense of George Zimmerman, whom police had already determined to have been acting in self-defense.  Coincidentally, the incident occurred in the middle of the Presidential election cycle and Obama was quick to play the race card for his personal political gain.


There was also another incident, when a friend of his (who was black) was arrested and Obama spoke out immediately, stating the police (who were white) had acted "stupidly".

If that's enough to "stoke the race wars" then people are just waiting to be triggered.

By people just waiting to be triggered, I assume you're talking about everyone who made it about race, rather than assault and self-defense.
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(06-19-2024, 09:55 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(06-19-2024, 09:05 AM)Sneakers Wrote: How many young black men, who roughly resembled Obama, were arrested and/or convicted of rape, murder, drug trafficking, etc. throughout the country during his time in office?

Of all those young men, about how many did Obama comment that, if he had a son, his son would look a lot like that individual?

The comment was obviously intended to elicit sympathy for Trayvon Martin, at the expense of George Zimmerman, whom police had already determined to have been acting in self-defense.  Coincidentally, the incident occurred in the middle of the Presidential election cycle and Obama was quick to play the race card for his personal political gain.


There was also another incident, when a friend of his (who was black) was arrested and Obama spoke out immediately, stating the police (who were white) had acted "stupidly".

The police determined that they did not have enough witness testimony to prove that Zimmerman was not acting in self defense.

The witness testimony said the two men were wrestling.  They did not see the start of the physical fight and did not agree about who was "winning" that fight before the shot went off.

The one thing everyone, including Zimmerman, agreed about, was that Zimmerman had never seen Trayvon before, but suspected Trayvon of robbing homes in the neighborhood, and Zimmerman tried to pursue and contact him for that reason. 

And that was the one and only aspect of the case that Obama's comment was about
. Obama said that he also got suspicious stares as a young man.  It's there in his autobiography, which he wrote before ever running for public office.

Your previous post said Obama's comment was motivated only by a coincidental physical resemblance to Travon Martin and not abouts the facts of the case.  Let me know when you decide which it is.
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(06-19-2024, 12:18 PM)Sneakers Wrote:
(06-19-2024, 09:16 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: If that's enough to "stoke the race wars" then people are just waiting to be triggered.

By people just waiting to be triggered, I assume you're talking about everyone who made it about race, rather than assault and self-defense.

I'm saying if Obama's comment about Trayvon Martin was enough to "stoke the race wars" then some people are massively overreacting, and I think I know why.
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#56

(06-19-2024, 12:27 PM)Sneakers Wrote:
(06-19-2024, 09:55 AM)mikesez Wrote: The police determined that they did not have enough witness testimony to prove that Zimmerman was not acting in self defense.

The witness testimony said the two men were wrestling.  They did not see the start of the physical fight and did not agree about who was "winning" that fight before the shot went off.

The one thing everyone, including Zimmerman, agreed about, was that Zimmerman had never seen Trayvon before, but suspected Trayvon of robbing homes in the neighborhood, and Zimmerman tried to pursue and contact him for that reason. 

And that was the one and only aspect of the case that Obama's comment was about
. Obama said that he also got suspicious stares as a young man.  It's there in his autobiography, which he wrote before ever running for public office.

Your previous post said Obama's comment was motivated only by a coincidental physical resemblance to Travon Martin and not abouts the facts of the case.  Let me know when you decide which it is.

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Where did I say that Obama's "If I had a son" comment was only about physical resemblance?
I said the comment was objectively true.  I didn't say that the bare truth of it was his only reason for saying it.
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(06-18-2024, 04:29 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I really wish you guys would read more about the wef.i think it would change some of your opinion on these presidents.

"You will own nothing and be happy".

This article is seven years old. Predicting by 2030 we would own nothing and virtually rent everything. If you follow the money, pay attention to the primary asset companies in the world, such as Blackrock and Vanguard. It sure as [BLEEP] feels we're heading in that direction.

Why you’ll own nothing by 2030 | The Independent | The Independent

Then you start getting into inflation, global tensions, interest rates, costs of living, etc. To me, it feels like a lot of groundwork was laid by the WEF during covid, the goal is to keep things as stagnant as possible globally, while, they concoct advancements with land grabs, AI advancement and automation advancements, so they don't need to backfill redundant jobs, etc. 

We're already seeing that now in some of the primary industries. Where people are being replaced or phased out by AI. Security jobs, medical jobs, teaching jobs and eventually military jobs will be next. They simply don't need a ton of us mouth breathers sitting around doing nothing. 

Here's a list of politicians that attended the WEF Davos event last year:

Full List of Democrats and Republicans Attending Davos WEF - Newsweek

It doesn't mean they're all involved to push these agendas, however, you can dig further into who all is involved. The WEF is no different than the Bilderberg group's or the Bohemian Grove group's. Pretty much every major influencer, business owner, politician or figurehead with a large platform attend these meetings. 

Shouldn't surprise people. Rich folks getting together and bumping elbows while making global decisions is nothing new. That concept has been around since ancient times. You would think more common folks would wake up to this fact and get pissed off though and want to do something about it.

It legitimately feels like we're heading back to Feudalism.
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(06-19-2024, 02:54 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(06-18-2024, 04:29 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I really wish you guys would read more about the wef.i think it would change some of your opinion on these presidents.

"You will own nothing and be happy".

This article is seven years old. Predicting by 2030 we would own nothing and virtually rent everything. If you follow the money, pay attention to the primary asset companies in the world, such as Blackrock and Vanguard. It sure as [BLEEP] feels we're heading in that direction.

Why you’ll own nothing by 2030 | The Independent | The Independent

Then you start getting into inflation, global tensions, interest rates, costs of living, etc. To me, it feels like a lot of groundwork was laid by the WEF during covid, the goal is to keep things as stagnant as possible globally, while, they concoct advancements with land grabs, AI advancement and automation advancements, so they don't need to backfill redundant jobs, etc. 

We're already seeing that now in some of the primary industries. Where people are being replaced or phased out by AI. Security jobs, medical jobs, teaching jobs and eventually military jobs will be next. They simply don't need a ton of us mouth breathers sitting around doing nothing. 

Here's a list of politicians that attended the WEF Davos event last year:

Full List of Democrats and Republicans Attending Davos WEF - Newsweek

It doesn't mean they're all involved to push these agendas, however, you can dig further into who all is involved. The WEF is no different than the Bilderberg group's or the Bohemian Grove group's. Pretty much every major influencer, business owner, politician or figurehead with a large platform attend these meetings. 

Shouldn't surprise people. Rich folks getting together and bumping elbows while making global decisions is nothing new. That concept has been around since ancient times. You would think more common folks would wake up to this fact and get pissed off though and want to do something about it.

It legitimately feels like we're heading back to Feudalism.

The problem with this approach is AI doesn't pay taxes. The government needs tax revenue to fund their frivolous spending and eventual UBI. I can see the tax code changing significantly over the next decade to account for the eventually lost revenue due to AI.
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(06-19-2024, 09:29 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(06-19-2024, 02:54 PM)Caldrac Wrote: "You will own nothing and be happy".

This article is seven years old. Predicting by 2030 we would own nothing and virtually rent everything. If you follow the money, pay attention to the primary asset companies in the world, such as Blackrock and Vanguard. It sure as [BLEEP] feels we're heading in that direction.

Why you’ll own nothing by 2030 | The Independent | The Independent

Then you start getting into inflation, global tensions, interest rates, costs of living, etc. To me, it feels like a lot of groundwork was laid by the WEF during covid, the goal is to keep things as stagnant as possible globally, while, they concoct advancements with land grabs, AI advancement and automation advancements, so they don't need to backfill redundant jobs, etc. 

We're already seeing that now in some of the primary industries. Where people are being replaced or phased out by AI. Security jobs, medical jobs, teaching jobs and eventually military jobs will be next. They simply don't need a ton of us mouth breathers sitting around doing nothing. 

Here's a list of politicians that attended the WEF Davos event last year:

Full List of Democrats and Republicans Attending Davos WEF - Newsweek

It doesn't mean they're all involved to push these agendas, however, you can dig further into who all is involved. The WEF is no different than the Bilderberg group's or the Bohemian Grove group's. Pretty much every major influencer, business owner, politician or figurehead with a large platform attend these meetings. 

Shouldn't surprise people. Rich folks getting together and bumping elbows while making global decisions is nothing new. That concept has been around since ancient times. You would think more common folks would wake up to this fact and get pissed off though and want to do something about it.

It legitimately feels like we're heading back to Feudalism.

The problem with this approach is AI doesn't pay taxes. The government needs tax revenue to fund their frivolous spending and eventual UBI. I can see the tax code changing significantly over the next decade to account for the eventually lost revenue due to AI.

To quote a great man, "I wouldn't worry about that."
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(06-19-2024, 02:54 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(06-18-2024, 04:29 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I really wish you guys would read more about the wef.i think it would change some of your opinion on these presidents.

"You will own nothing and be happy".

This article is seven years old. Predicting by 2030 we would own nothing and virtually rent everything. If you follow the money, pay attention to the primary asset companies in the world, such as Blackrock and Vanguard. It sure as [BLEEP] feels we're heading in that direction.

Why you’ll own nothing by 2030 | The Independent | The Independent

Then you start getting into inflation, global tensions, interest rates, costs of living, etc. To me, it feels like a lot of groundwork was laid by the WEF during covid, the goal is to keep things as stagnant as possible globally, while, they concoct advancements with land grabs, AI advancement and automation advancements, so they don't need to backfill redundant jobs, etc. 

We're already seeing that now in some of the primary industries. Where people are being replaced or phased out by AI. Security jobs, medical jobs, teaching jobs and eventually military jobs will be next. They simply don't need a ton of us mouth breathers sitting around doing nothing. 

Here's a list of politicians that attended the WEF Davos event last year:

Full List of Democrats and Republicans Attending Davos WEF - Newsweek

It doesn't mean they're all involved to push these agendas, however, you can dig further into who all is involved. The WEF is no different than the Bilderberg group's or the Bohemian Grove group's. Pretty much every major influencer, business owner, politician or figurehead with a large platform attend these meetings. 

Shouldn't surprise people. Rich folks getting together and bumping elbows while making global decisions is nothing new. That concept has been around since ancient times. You would think more common folks would wake up to this fact and get pissed off though and want to do something about it.

It legitimately feels like we're heading back to Feudalism.

I read the linked article about "owning nothing" and the title seems like click-bait to me.  What the article actually describes is people renting stuff out to other people.  Unused bedroom becoming an airbnb, or renting out an unused parking space.   There's no grand conspiracy there, it's just people trying to make extra money by renting stuff out.  Did I miss something?
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