People love conspiracy theories, but usually, it's just one guy, and a major foul-up by law enforcement and security.

Bully a guy for 3 years in high school, then turn him loose with an AR15, and what happens is most likely not going to be good.

And I would add, the Director of the Secret Service said the buck stops with her, so she has to go. Resign or be fired.

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People love conspiracy theories, but usually, it's just one guy, and a major foul-up by law enforcement and security. 

Bully a guy for 3 years in high school, then turn him loose with an AR15, and what happens is most likely not going to be good. 

And I would add, the Director of the Secret Service said the buck stops with her, so she has to go.  Resign or be fired.

Disagree. People don't love conspiracy theories. Those people have been demonized forever now. Sure, it can be one guy, maybe if it was a dispute with a disgruntled neighbor, or, maybe an ex lover or just a long time feud escalating to the point of no return. 

This is not the case. Things like this just don't "happen". Major foul-up by law enforcement, security and the SS in today's age? Where, the alphabet soup community can tell me that I farted at exactly 9:04 PM last night that was loud enough for me to wake up my wife and blame it on the dog?

Come on now. Everything is practically bugged today. You have the FBI and other agencies going door to door like salesman trying to question people's posts, blogs, vlogs or comments made on various platforms. 

You just had Twitter and FaceBook popped for having clear bias politically on their platforms. You have people like Snowden and Assange who have been telling you about this for over a decade now. 

That narrative you just painted? That's exactly what the media wants you to believe and that's exactly what the media is hoping for. Because, they're all linked to the alphabet soup community and doing the same dirty work for the same few corporations that own them under one giant umbrella.

That's not a conspiracy. That's a well known, well documented fact now if you do your homework. You just had that gender queer in Tennessee last year shoot up their school where they were "brainwashed" or "bullied". Why would the kid get bullied in school for three years and blame it on Trump?

Why wouldn't he just shoot up the school and target the people that actually bullied him? Because that's traditionally what happens... 

So, again, not buying it bud, sorry.

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People love conspiracy theories, but usually, it's just one guy, and a major foul-up by law enforcement and security. 

Bully a guy for 3 years in high school, then turn him loose with an AR15, and what happens is most likely not going to be good. 

And I would add, the Director of the Secret Service said the buck stops with her, so she has to go.  Resign or be fired.

This sounds like excuses. A bullied guy decided to go shoot a President? You really tried to make that connection?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I am usually VERY skeptical of conspiracy theories.
That is because the number of people that would have to keep silent about their role is usually very large.
In this case, the number people who were "in on it" may be quite small. Maybe just 2 or 3 people. That's very plausible.

"Conspiracy" implies that someone on the local police or USSS side knew that a shooter would be there and made sure the path was clear for him. That's plausible. Not the most likely scenario but it is plausible.

The most likely scenario is that no one expected the shooter to be there, but some small number of people decided to "forget" their training about how to deal with a threat once they spotted the shooter. As I said, they are trained to evacuate and cover their protectee as soon as an immediate threat is identified. And I'm pretty sure almost any of them are authorized to call for evacuation to begin if they see a threat. That's what needs to be investigated first. Who should have made the call, why wasn't the call made.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Here's some balls deep conspiracy stuff for you, Marty, these are a little too rich for my blood, but, fun nonetheless:

https://www.instagram.com/stories/mymari...E0cmp3Z2Rm

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Seventy-two hours after an assassin shot and nearly killed Donald Trump in Pennsylvania, here’s the official story so far: A random 20-year-old acting completely alone walked within 150 yards of a presidential campaign rally with a rifle, climbed onto a rooftop in full view of Secret Service snipers, set up his shot and fired without anyone intervening and with no help from anyone.

So many dots on that page that there's no white space left.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I am usually VERY skeptical of conspiracy theories.
That is because the number of people that would have to keep silent about their role is usually very large.
In this case, the number people who were "in on it" may be quite small.  Maybe just 2 or 3 people.  That's very plausible.

"Conspiracy" implies that someone on the local police or USSS side knew that a shooter would be there and made sure the path was clear for him.  That's plausible.  Not the most likely scenario but it is plausible.

The most likely scenario is that no one expected the shooter to be there, but some small number of people decided to "forget" their training about how to deal with a threat once they spotted the shooter. As I said, they are trained to evacuate and cover their protectee as soon as an immediate threat is identified.  And I'm pretty sure almost any of them are authorized to call for evacuation to begin if they see a threat.  That's what needs to be investigated first. Who should have made the call, why wasn't the call made.

The bolded is my stance as well.  The larger the conspiracy the harder it would be to contain without someone involved slipping up.  That said, I also agree that it wouldn't take more than a single insider to have assisted the shooter.  I think when the term "inside job" gets thrown out there, it's easily dismissed by many because it sounds like you're suggesting a large group of people were involved.  In this case, it could have been 1 person who had inside knowledge of the event and had a relationship with the shooter or even just foreknowledge of him making the attempt if he posted something about his intentions somewhere in some loony bin chat room that was being monitored.  The door for this potentially being a conspiracy here is wide open.

It's been reported recently that he bought the ladder from home depot and walked an hour with it in tow to the event.  Walked right in with it and right up to the building that was a perfect perch to get some rounds off at the former President.  This would jive with the reporting that he was spotted in the area before he got on the roof and they were monitoring him as a suspicious individual, but they lost track of him somehow until he reappeared on the roof.  It sounds highly plausible to me that the shooter had foreknowledge of exactly where to go and that it would be largely unguarded.  If he walked all that way from Home Depot, where was the long gun?  Was he walking on the side of the road with long gun under one arm and ladder under the other?  Was it already on the premises?  Was it perhaps already on the roof?  Need more info, but what we know is absolutely ridiculous as having been allowed to happen.  If he's rolling a 100 sided die every couple of minutes as a failure check, with any roll under 100 meaning failure at 10's or even 100's of different points along the way starting at Home Depot, this dude rolled 100 every time until he got the shots off where he rolled a 99.

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https://twitter.com/legislationpage/stat...mfHOQ&s=19

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Was looking for this:

https://twitter.com/DougAMacgregor/statu...ub88Q&s=19

This does not mean that I believe Chucky or Pelosi were behind it.

I just wanted to point out that some of you on here think the "deepstate" is just some made up term or [BLEEP] to defend Trump.

You heard it here, POINT BLANK, by a long time career politician and major critic of Trump with what happens when you [BLEEP] around with the three letter agencies.

FAFO.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Holy crap. Its becoming hard to argue they didn't want this to be successful.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/trump-shooter...on-attempt

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Was looking for this:

https://twitter.com/DougAMacgregor/statu...ub88Q&s=19

This does not mean that I believe Chucky or Pelosi were behind it.

I just wanted to point out that some of you on here think the "deepstate" is just some made up term or [BLEEP] to defend Trump.

You heard it here, POINT BLANK, by a long time career politician and major critic of Trump with what happens when you [BLEEP] around with the three letter agencies.

FAFO.

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Schumer is an evil man, and can't cook a burger.

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https://twitter.com/legislationpage/stat...mfHOQ&s=19

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Yep someone rich knew something would happen to drop the stock price but I guess they really were just betting that the stock would go down right?



Cows are better than the current SS head.

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/181...0565542036

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Holy crap. Its becoming hard to argue they didn't want this to be successful.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/trump-shooter...on-attempt

If that winds up being true, to me that indicates some level of foreign involvement.  Wasn't there similar short positions on airlines taken right before 9/11 that were traced back to Bin Laden or his associates?  If they trace those trades back to someone domestically, that's going to be a pretty big own goal and self outing by whomever opened the positions.

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Holy crap. Its becoming hard to argue they didn't want this to be successful.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/trump-shooter...on-attempt

If that winds up being true, to me that indicates some level of foreign involvement.  Wasn't there similar short positions on airlines taken right before 9/11 that were traced back to Bin Laden or his associates?  If they trace those trades back to someone domestically, that's going to be a pretty big own goal and self outing by whomever opened the positions.

Just googled the Bin Laden thing and there apparently was no connection made to him or anyone else as I read the money made may have never been claimed so I must be remembering the rumor or conspiracy theory that was going around.  Industry rules have changed in the aftermath of 9/11 though so you can't open an account without a lot of identifying information.  Whoever placed shorts or puts on that Trump issue, if it actually happened, should be easy to identify.

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https://twitter.com/immeme0/status/18136...DLxwjCos5Q

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9h-qPuOK...Jjc21pbzJl

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Took me a few watch throughs of this to grasp what is going on in the video, but interesting theory. If there was a 2nd shooter along the red proposed trajectory line at the end, his aim for Trump was way off.

https://twitter.com/immeme0/status/18133...DLxwjCos5Q

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Took me a few watch throughs of this to grasp what is going on in the video, but interesting theory. If there was a 2nd shooter along the red proposed trajectory line at the end, his aim for Trump was way off.

https://twitter.com/immeme0/status/18133...DLxwjCos5Q

Upon further review, the guy that falls from being hit and the visible impact of the bullet hitting the railing or whatever do not appear to be parallel with the stands they are sitting in from the vantage point this video was filmed from (also can’t really tell where the guy gets hit but it looks like it hits him on the side that he fell).  I think the red line trajectory might be off a tad if so.  Either way, if that is what it looks like, that doesn’t seem possible that it came from Crooks.  Oh boy, here we go into JFK territory.

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Took me a few watch throughs of this to grasp what is going on in the video, but interesting theory. If there was a 2nd shooter along the red proposed trajectory line at the end, his aim for Trump was way off.

https://twitter.com/immeme0/status/18133...DLxwjCos5Q

Upon further review, the guy that falls from being hit and the visible impact of the bullet hitting the railing or whatever do not appear to be parallel with the stands they are sitting in from the vantage point this video was filmed from (also can’t really tell where the guy gets hit but it looks like it hits him on the side that he fell).  I think the red line trajectory might be off a tad if so.  Either way, if that is what it looks like, that doesn’t seem possible that it came from Crooks.  Oh boy, here we go into JFK territory.

I think that was a missed shot from Cooks. That powder is probably gas from the lift over on the right with the hydraulics.

However, some people think there was a second shooter from the bleachers, so, who knows.

We'll probably never get the truth of it. You can tell PA PD is pissed off with the SS though. A lot of back and forth [BLEEP] flinging being aired in the media.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

People love conspiracy theories, but usually, it's just one guy, and a major foul-up by law enforcement and security. 

Bully a guy for 3 years in high school, then turn him loose with an AR15, and what happens is most likely not going to be good. 

And I would add, the Director of the Secret Service said the buck stops with her, so she has to go.  Resign or be fired.

There is a difference between those who believe in conspiracy theories and those who don't believe in coincidence. 

That Director needs to be fired. No resignation for her. Fired. Publicly. And all the DEI crap undone. As a woman I say she is an embarrassment and DEI is a disgrace. I want to be hired because I'm qualified not because I'm considered less than and need extra consideration because of my sex.

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