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Assassination attempt on Trump


(07-29-2024, 12:04 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(07-29-2024, 11:54 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: https://twitter.com/ClownWorld_/status/1...QVJYg&s=19

Odd timing considering that Zuckerberg was recently interviewed about this and went on record stating how bad [BLEEP] he thought that moment was.

The lying liberal media at work.
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(07-29-2024, 11:34 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(07-29-2024, 10:39 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Austin Private Wealth never had a massive short on DJT.  It was reported incorrectly in a regulatory filing.  

It's also not true that Austin Private Wealth is owned by Blackrock or any other large institution.

PolitiFact | No, Austin Private Wealth did not short 12 million shares of Trump Media on July 12, 2024

After the assassination attempt, they filed a report saying it was a software error. They put the short in on the 12th and amended it on the 16th. Sure, it could be a just a software error, but it IS a coincidence.

Btw. did you watch the video? She said that Austin Private Wealth is not owned by Blackrock. She debunks that.

From everything I know, the massive "short" never existed.  It was an error on a quarterly report sent to the SEC, where they reported owning this massive short which they didn't actually have.  

And you are correct, she debunks the idea that Austin Private Wealth is owned by Blackrock.
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(07-29-2024, 11:34 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(07-29-2024, 10:39 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Austin Private Wealth never had a massive short on DJT.  It was reported incorrectly in a regulatory filing.  

It's also not true that Austin Private Wealth is owned by Blackrock or any other large institution.

PolitiFact | No, Austin Private Wealth did not short 12 million shares of Trump Media on July 12, 2024

After the assassination attempt, they filed a report saying it was a software error. They put the short in on the 12th and amended it on the 16th. Sure, it could be a just a software error, but it IS a coincidence.

Btw. did you watch the video? She said that Austin Private Wealth is not owned by Blackrock. She debunks that.

The connection there is James Baker, old as he is now, being associated with Austin Private Wealth.  From the little bit of their history that I ran across, James had advised Trump to return to the political center in a previous Presidential campaign, but Trump ignored him.  Baker also apparently considered voting for Biden in 2020, but ultimately did not citing the need for the party to control the executive branch so that conservative judges could be appointed among other things.  He was quoted as saying he would not leave his party even if its current leader had strayed from party principles.

It's enough of a coincidence that should give anyone pause even with the explanation after the fact.  I find it difficult to believe that Baker or Austin Private Wealth would draw attention to themselves in such a way.  If Baker knew of a government plot against Trump, why on earth would he so publicly try to profit from it knowing the connection would be easy to make.  I also find it very odd that of all the Advisory firms out there that could make this filing "mistake" at the precise moment it was made, it's the one that has a former government official such as Baker associated with it.   What are the odds?
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(07-29-2024, 01:17 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(07-29-2024, 11:34 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: After the assassination attempt, they filed a report saying it was a software error. They put the short in on the 12th and amended it on the 16th. Sure, it could be a just a software error, but it IS a coincidence.

Btw. did you watch the video? She said that Austin Private Wealth is not owned by Blackrock. She debunks that.

The connection there is James Baker, old as he is now, being associated with Austin Private Wealth.  From the little bit of their history that I ran across, James had advised Trump to return to the political center in a previous Presidential campaign, but Trump ignored him.  Baker also apparently considered voting for Biden in 2020, but ultimately did not citing the need for the party to control the executive branch so that conservative judges could be appointed among other things.  He was quoted as saying he would not leave his party even if its current leader had strayed from party principles.

It's enough of a coincidence that should give anyone pause even with the explanation after the fact.  I find it difficult to believe that Baker or Austin Private Wealth would draw attention to themselves in such a way.  If Baker knew of a government plot against Trump, why on earth would he so publicly try to profit from it knowing the connection would be easy to make.  I also find it very odd that of all the Advisory firms out there that could make this filing "mistake", it's the one that has a former government official such as Baker associated with it.   What are the odds?

No one tried to profit from it.  That "massive short" never existed.  What people saw was an error on a regulatory filing.  Like a typo.  If they had actually owned that large of a short position, they would be sitting on massive losses when DJT went up instead of down.  

This little conspiracy theory needs to go away, because there's nothing there.  It's been thoroughly debunked.
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(07-29-2024, 01:24 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(07-29-2024, 01:17 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: The connection there is James Baker, old as he is now, being associated with Austin Private Wealth.  From the little bit of their history that I ran across, James had advised Trump to return to the political center in a previous Presidential campaign, but Trump ignored him.  Baker also apparently considered voting for Biden in 2020, but ultimately did not citing the need for the party to control the executive branch so that conservative judges could be appointed among other things.  He was quoted as saying he would not leave his party even if its current leader had strayed from party principles.

It's enough of a coincidence that should give anyone pause even with the explanation after the fact.  I find it difficult to believe that Baker or Austin Private Wealth would draw attention to themselves in such a way.  If Baker knew of a government plot against Trump, why on earth would he so publicly try to profit from it knowing the connection would be easy to make.  I also find it very odd that of all the Advisory firms out there that could make this filing "mistake", it's the one that has a former government official such as Baker associated with it.   What are the odds?

No one tried to profit from it.  That "massive short" never existed.  What people saw was an error on a regulatory filing.  Like a typo.  If they had actually owned that large of a short position, they would be sitting on massive losses when DJT went up instead of down.  

This little conspiracy theory needs to go away, because there's nothing there.  It's been thoroughly debunked.

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(07-29-2024, 01:24 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(07-29-2024, 01:17 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: The connection there is James Baker, old as he is now, being associated with Austin Private Wealth.  From the little bit of their history that I ran across, James had advised Trump to return to the political center in a previous Presidential campaign, but Trump ignored him.  Baker also apparently considered voting for Biden in 2020, but ultimately did not citing the need for the party to control the executive branch so that conservative judges could be appointed among other things.  He was quoted as saying he would not leave his party even if its current leader had strayed from party principles.

It's enough of a coincidence that should give anyone pause even with the explanation after the fact.  I find it difficult to believe that Baker or Austin Private Wealth would draw attention to themselves in such a way.  If Baker knew of a government plot against Trump, why on earth would he so publicly try to profit from it knowing the connection would be easy to make.  I also find it very odd that of all the Advisory firms out there that could make this filing "mistake", it's the one that has a former government official such as Baker associated with it.   What are the odds?

No one tried to profit from it.  That "massive short" never existed.  What people saw was an error on a regulatory filing.  Like a typo.  If they had actually owned that large of a short position, they would be sitting on massive losses when DJT went up instead of down.  

This little conspiracy theory needs to go away, because there's nothing there.  It's been thoroughly debunked.

Well APW did take a short position, just apparently not as large as was originally filed (1,200 vs 12,000,000).  1,200 shares going down from $30 per share to hypothetically $0 would have meant the staggering profit of $36,000 or thereabouts.  The stock has come back down to pre-assassination levels, so anyone holding short positions and having the fortitude (and the cash) to hang on would be around even right now.  Anyway, I'm agreeing with you for the most part.  However, don't you find it the slightest bit of an odd coincidence that a former government official as renowned as Baker who had previously made what could only be interpreted as a negative comment about Trump happened to be associated with this perfectly timed error?  I would venture a guess that of all the wealth advisory firms out there that the percentage of them that have a former government official as prominent and connected as Baker on the payroll or as an equity partner would be less than 1% and probably significantly so.  It's an odd coincidence, you have to admit that.
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That kid took that shot without a scope. From 140 yards. Pretty impressive how close he was. Straight iron rail.

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https://youtu.be/h2LfvzsQUgw?si=tjJUiHqaQVVlJKU_

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(07-30-2024, 10:38 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: https://twitter.com/PGATUOR/status/18182...RAaHw&s=19

That’s wild.
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-DIr6ZJY...1pNWZybmNr

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Imagine what the high school version of these guys would say to their current selves.

https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/18...RTDyg&s=19
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(07-30-2024, 01:05 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Imagine what the high school version of these guys would say to their current selves.

https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/18...RTDyg&s=19

One of their earliest songs, Welcome to Paradise, decried the run down conditions in Oakland CA.
One of their latest songs, The American Dream is Killing Me, decries the gentrification of Oakland CA.
It's music.
It never made sense.

On the other hand, which one of the songs they wrote in high school makes you think they would or should like Trump now?
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(07-30-2024, 01:28 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(07-30-2024, 01:05 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Imagine what the high school version of these guys would say to their current selves.

https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/18...RTDyg&s=19

One of their earliest songs, Welcome to Paradise, decried the run down conditions in Oakland CA.
One of their latest songs, The American Dream is Killing Me, decries the gentrification of Oakland CA.
It's music.
It never made sense.

On the other hand, which one of the songs they wrote in high school makes you think they would or should like Trump now?

I've never followed them but am aware of their hits. Maybe I just made unwarranted assumptions about their punk sound not translating into them being little [BLEEP].
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(07-30-2024, 01:28 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(07-30-2024, 01:05 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Imagine what the high school version of these guys would say to their current selves.

https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/18...RTDyg&s=19

One of their earliest songs, Welcome to Paradise, decried the run down conditions in Oakland CA.
One of their latest songs, The American Dream is Killing Me, decries the gentrification of Oakland CA.
It's music.
It never made sense.

On the other hand, which one of the songs they wrote in high school makes you think they would or should like Trump now?

None. They have always tended to lean a little left. American Idiot pretty much took a jab at the Bush administration at that time, and, rightfully so. I haven't really cared much for this band over the years. Has little to do with politics though. Just burned out on hearing Billy Joel. They still have some hits that I like. The Dookie album is a classic. The ballad of Good Riddance, Wake Me Up When September Ends and Boulevard of Broken Dreams are good songs. 

I can say the same thing about other bands or artists though. I feel the same way about Beck, Coldplay, U2, Radiohead, Nickelback & Nine Inch Nails. Just burned out on hearing them or seeing anything related to them. Starting to feel the same way about some of my bread and butter Metal bands and Progressive Rock bands like Metallica and Tool.

But, to stay back on topic with Green Day. I was typically under the impression growing up that they were very liberal and left leaning, lyrically and fashion/style wise. I'll tell you what threw me for a loop though, was Staind's singer, Aaron Lewis. He's actually fairly Conservative, Pro-American, Pro-Gun and has a couple of nice tunes that are country in sound. "Country Boy" in particular going back to 2011. Which was really interesting considering the political climate at that time.
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(07-30-2024, 01:41 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(07-30-2024, 01:28 PM)mikesez Wrote: One of their earliest songs, Welcome to Paradise, decried the run down conditions in Oakland CA.
One of their latest songs, The American Dream is Killing Me, decries the gentrification of Oakland CA.
It's music.
It never made sense.

On the other hand, which one of the songs they wrote in high school makes you think they would or should like Trump now?

I've never followed them but am aware of their hits. Maybe I just made unwarranted assumptions about their punk sound not translating into them being little [BLEEP].

90s punk rock is prankster music.  Not gangster music.
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(07-30-2024, 01:05 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Imagine what the high school version of these guys would say to their current selves.

https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/18...RTDyg&s=19

If they truly wanted Trumps head to explode all they need to do is make him listen to a whole cd of their crap. That would surely do it.
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And the moderates will never even consider this information. The FBI is above reproach.
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(07-30-2024, 07:11 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: And the moderates will never even consider this information. The FBI is above reproach.

There is so much crap thrown up out there, that if one takes the time to consider each one of them, so much of it is bogus that after a while, it's just natural that people would start to ignore it.

But to the tweet in question: Musk says it appears the FBI leadership is engaged in perjury.  Please explain.  From reading that tweet, I have no clue what he's talking about.
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