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Democrats! Sell me on Harris!


(07-31-2024, 09:56 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(07-31-2024, 09:45 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: Kamala flopping like a bad movie with her stance on issues.

Flip-flopping is a very valuable political skill.  If that's what you meant.

Thanks, Mike.
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(07-31-2024, 01:08 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(07-31-2024, 11:29 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: I may have heard it correctly on the background TV but there's $1.7 billion in student debt forgiveness so a bunch of people are experiencing less debt as a result.

Also, not everyone votes with their pocketbooks.  Many people favor pro-choice, climate, and other topics over money.  That said, anyone who is smart enough (or even lucky enough) can capitalize on either types of governing rule.  If one let's the President dictate their financial success, they are not meant to be wealthy in the first place ....


1. My income and my future saving's. America worships the Dollar. Let's not [BLEEP] ourselves. Career politicians, lobbyism and corruption are all self evident here to begin with. When my income is healthy? So is my life in general. So is the economy, people have some spending money, it's good for everybody. 

2. Global tensions. I hate the fact that our country imposed itself into this World Policeman role. Personally? Let the animals wipe themselves out. Stop giving away our tax dollars to bottomless pits riddled with ideologies that only seem to have a cyclical system of abuse and self assured destruction. 

3. Freedom. Maintain our original rights and do not trespass upon standard laws. I don't care if you identify as a unicorn with a 12 inch pecker but somehow can claim you're a woman once a week every Saturday when it's convenient for you. I just want my guns. You can also abort your kid. Provided you can make a decision within three months. Full term abortion is just wrong. [BLEEP] or get off the pot quickly in that regard.

I hear ya ... and here's my 2 cents:

1) Inflation didn't happen overnight. The past dictates the present and Biden didn't create worldwide inflation.  Perhaps we should be thankful there's not a true recession .... and again, I think Jay Powell has more to do with the economy.  Keeping rates at 0% throughout the Trump presidency was a joke.  Do people really think we could sustain 0% interest rates?  just curious --- does anyone really believe car repair prices are going to go down.  the industry is such a rip off.

2) I don't disagree --- Trump dictates more authority but I support Ukraine so hopefully he won't let Russia expand.

3) I understand people wanting guns but I don't favor laws that allow assault rifles so I wish that was banned or restricted in some manner (e.g. shooting ranges only).

On November 6, I'll wake up and take the positives the winner has to provide.  I just hope there is a divided House and Congress to balance the power -- that's actually good for the economy.
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(07-31-2024, 02:07 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: I really don't think democrats are "excited" about kamala (other than those on the far left like Mikesez).  I think they are more excited that they got rid of Joe Biden.  That's why she is fizzling out so fast.

I should have noted that this part is true.  Personally, I'm more excited about getting rid of Joe (just because I think it's time given his health) .....  I do think Kamala is a lot smarter than being portrayed by those on the Left.   In fact, if Trump doesn't stick to the plan, Kamala just may outsmart him like Biden did in 2020 (referring to Trump's Debate #2 disaster).
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(07-31-2024, 02:18 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(07-31-2024, 02:07 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: I really don't think democrats are "excited" about kamala (other than those on the far left like Mikesez).  I think they are more excited that they got rid of Joe Biden.  That's why she is fizzling out so fast.

What makes you think she is fizzling out?  I don't see that.  It looks to me like this race is a dead heat at this point.

She is pretty much out of the mainstream news cycle and there isn't really any evidence that I have seen of anyone supporting her or excited about her.  The best thing Trump can do is debate her, keep his mouth shut and let her sink herself when she opens her mouth.

Plus her past is starting to really come out for people to see.  Her horrible stint as a prosecutor in California for one.  Her failure as the border czar (liberal media has been trying to say that she wasn't).  I have yet to see anyone either here or on any platform outline any accomplishments that she might have made (hint... there are none).

Finally, she failed in the last democrat primary and had to drop out when she was polling at what... 2%?  She got the job as VP because she has a vagina and her skin happens to be dark.  It is well documented that Biden first said that his VP choice was going to be a woman, then he doubled-down by saying that it would be a woman "of color".  The democrats forced Biden out and had no choice but to back her up.  The party of identity politics wouldn't dare let a black female have to win a primary that she had previously lost... badly.  They also wouldn't dare bypass her because of her DEI appointment.

Those are the facts.  There is no way in hell she would all of the sudden have a larger approval rating or be more "popular" than Biden.


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(07-31-2024, 03:21 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(07-31-2024, 02:18 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: What makes you think she is fizzling out?  I don't see that.  It looks to me like this race is a dead heat at this point.

Because Laura Ingram says she's fizzling out, so it must be correct, regardless of what the data states.

I don't really care for or watch Laura Ingraham.  See my previous response to TRM.


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Winning -- Kamala endorsed by the Auto Union. Girl's got game --- AKA 1908
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(07-31-2024, 04:36 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: Winning -- Kamala endorsed by the Auto Union. Girl's got game --- AKA 1908
What did she sell them on?

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Opinion: Democrats demand you celebrate Kamala Harris for precisely what doesn’t matter (msn.com)

To say Democrats send contradictory messages is an understatement of epic proportions. They are the party of “choice,” but only if that choice is abortion. If you want to send your child to a better school, forget it. And they can’t explain what a woman is, but they suddenly become gynecologists when the topic shifts to abortion...

“No longer was it two white men born in the 1940s facing off — again — for who should return to the White House,” NBC News wrote. “Instead, it’s between Trump, a man who is 78, against Harris, who is 59 and would make history as the first woman and first woman of color to be president if she is elected. And within a day, Harris was already facing attacks that centered on her race and gender, making it clear that while Republicans may try to tie her to some of Biden’s policies, she will face criticisms he never did.”

What exactly were the “attacks?” They weren’t actual attacks on Harris for not being a white man. Rather, the “attacks” were just people noticing how ridiculous Democrats looked for congratulating themselves over their presumptive nominee’s skin color...
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(This post was last modified: 08-01-2024, 07:13 AM by The Real Marty. Edited 1 time in total.)

Talking about Harris' race is not a winning strategy.  That will only alienate people.  What Republicans need to talk about, to win, is the broken border, and inflation.  And then they need to talk about some of her controversial political positions.   

They need to stick to policy.  Attacking her personally is a losing strategy.  It might amuse the MAGA crowd, but it's a waste of time, and they don't need to be wasting time when they can win on policy.
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(08-01-2024, 07:05 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Talking about Harris' race is not a winning strategy.  That will only alienate people.  What Republicans need to talk about, to win, is the broken border, and inflation.

Trump did talk about that at the NABJ event, yet the untruthful MSM dreck that you so eagerly gobble up fixates on his statements about Harris, which were correct. 

You don’t want the truth, Marty. You want to hear and read what confirms your hate.
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(08-01-2024, 07:16 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(08-01-2024, 07:05 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Talking about Harris' race is not a winning strategy.  That will only alienate people.  What Republicans need to talk about, to win, is the broken border, and inflation.

Trump did talk about that at the NABJ event, yet the untruthful MSM dreck that you so eagerly gobble up fixates on his statements about Harris, which were correct. 

You don’t want the truth, Marty. You want to hear and read what confirms your hate.

He’s not wrong though.  There is zero reason to even mention it, just stick to policy.
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(07-31-2024, 04:36 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: Winning -- Kamala endorsed by the Auto Union.  Girl's got game --- AKA 1908

That's as expected as the sunrise. Next you'll celebrate that surprise endorsement by the NEA.
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(08-01-2024, 07:32 AM)copycat Wrote:
(08-01-2024, 07:16 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: Trump did talk about that at the NABJ event, yet the untruthful MSM dreck that you so eagerly gobble up fixates on his statements about Harris, which were correct. 

You don’t want the truth, Marty. You want to hear and read what confirms your hate.

He’s not wrong though.  There is zero reason to even mention it, just stick to policy.

He’s not, but his statement gives the strong impression that he simply perused leftist hate articles which pushed their Trump hating racist trope. We know how selective they are with their ‘facts’, and Marty is the first one in line to parrot it.
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(08-01-2024, 07:32 AM)copycat Wrote:
(08-01-2024, 07:16 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: Trump did talk about that at the NABJ event, yet the untruthful MSM dreck that you so eagerly gobble up fixates on his statements about Harris, which were correct. 

You don’t want the truth, Marty. You want to hear and read what confirms your hate.

He’s not wrong though.  There is zero reason to even mention it, just stick to policy.

This. If the [BLEEP] heads on the left can dip, duck and dodge tough questions? So can he. [BLEEP] it. Either, stop pandering to these people and trying to appease them to begin with, or, stick to the talking points that really matter and count and drive that home. 

The rest of his campaign needs to be focused now on the Independents on the sideline that are maybe unsure on who to vote for or have at least one foot in his direction and just need another pep talk or two to convince them to get out and vote. 

I have already come to terms with certain things I like and don't like about him. I already weighed it out. Enough to the point to where he already has my vote in November. He just needs to get another percentage or two of people just like me, to get out and get to the voting booth for him. 

He can do it. He just has to set the stage and speak to them directly. That's all it takes.
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