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Democrats! Sell me on Harris!

(This post was last modified: 08-14-2024, 03:06 PM by The Real Marty. Edited 1 time in total.)

(08-14-2024, 02:59 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: Oh look, a poll that represents more than 50 people sampled lolol

https://x.com/PpollingNumbers/status/182...aN53A&s=19

This is a grass roots movement, and the legacy media can't stop it..

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And this one has over 100k sampled lololol

But you keep nobbin legacy media's schlong lolol

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Kamala gonna throw these illegal alien terrorists out on our streets if elected?

https://x.com/nypost/status/182378406729...rBO3g&s=19
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(08-14-2024, 02:20 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(08-14-2024, 02:06 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: 34 pages in and I have not seen anything other than "she's not Trump" as a reason to vote for Kamala.

Somebody explain this to me.

In the 2020 election she had to drop out of the primary very early because she had no support.

She was clearly a DEI hire when Biden first said that he would appoint a woman to be his running mate, then doubled-down on it when he said that it would be a "woman of color".  So the only reason she got the position was because of her gender a skin color.

In March of 2021 Biden assigned her the job of "border czar" though he never really officially used that title.  She obviously failed to complete the task.

Earlier in 2024 many were whispering that Biden should drop her from the ticket in the upcoming election.  It was possibly due to her failure on the border as well as the stupid "word salads" that she always comes up with.  Another fact is that she had a very high turnover as far as her staff.

Fairly recently the democrat brass forced Biden out of the race due to his clear cognitive decline and poor performance during the debate with Trump.  The democrat party then "anointed" or "coronated" Kamala to the top of the ticket, most likely because they didn't want to be labeled as kicking a "woman of color" aside with a real primary.

Since being appointed rather than elected to the top of the democrat position she has failed to be interviewed or answer any questions from the press.

So suddenly now we are supposed to believe that she is bringing so many people out to vote for her?  What exactly are her policy positions other than stealing the "no tax on tips" idea that Trump spoke of weeks ago?

During the 2020 primaries, Democrats were spoiled with a large number of options and confident that any of them had a chance of beating Trump. They ultimately picked Biden based on a belief that he had the best chance.  

But today they are presented with only one choice. All of the enthusiasm is focused on Kamala.  

It doesn't have to make sense.  Voter enthusiasm is like investor enthusiasm, it's an animalistic reaction.  Bull and bear, etc.

So what you're saying is that the sheep democrats like yourself will vote for anybody but Trump, even if that person was disliked by her own party.  Even though she is a failure you would still vote for her.  Got it.


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(08-14-2024, 03:27 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(08-14-2024, 02:20 PM)mikesez Wrote: During the 2020 primaries, Democrats were spoiled with a large number of options and confident that any of them had a chance of beating Trump. They ultimately picked Biden based on a belief that he had the best chance.  

But today they are presented with only one choice. All of the enthusiasm is focused on Kamala.  

It doesn't have to make sense.  Voter enthusiasm is like investor enthusiasm, it's an animalistic reaction.  Bull and bear, etc.

So what you're saying is that the sheep democrats like yourself will vote for anybody but Trump, even if that person was disliked by her own party.  Even though she is a failure you would still vote for her.  Got it.

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(This post was last modified: 08-14-2024, 04:23 PM by StroudCrowd1. Edited 2 times in total.)

This is the brain dead company the likes of Marty, Mike, HURRICANE, that Jag88 chick and captivating keep.

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status...ZPdog&s=19
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(This post was last modified: 08-14-2024, 05:11 PM by The Real Marty. Edited 2 times in total.)

(08-14-2024, 04:22 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: This is the brain dead company the likes of Marty, Mike, HURRICANE, that Jag88 chick and captivating keep.

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status...ZPdog&s=19

I have not endorsed Kamala Harris.

I think you just don't like it when I give you a reality check, and make the point that this is a close election and she could win.
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(This post was last modified: 08-14-2024, 05:33 PM by Lucky2Last. Edited 1 time in total.)

It's not a reality check, Marty. It's confirmation bias.

Look, at my core, I'm a data guy. I don't like to get lost in the weeds, but data is important for shaping our view of the world, no doubt. That said, our data is absolutely manipulated for political advantage, both on the left and the right. There's lies, damn lies, and statistics. That's a saying that's been around for years, not because statistics are inherently wrong, but because liars can twist them to strengthen their own positions. I think you get that, but you downplay it in your mind. You have a disconnect between what is real and what you're told is real. Everyone does to some degree, but you are absolutely blind to how bad our establishment is right now.
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(This post was last modified: 08-14-2024, 05:36 PM by The Real Marty. Edited 2 times in total.)

(08-14-2024, 05:32 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: It's not a reality check, Marty. It's confirmation bias.

Look, at my core, I'm a data guy. I don't like to get lost in the weeds, but data is important for shaping our view of the world, no doubt. That said, our data is absolutely manipulated for political advantage, both on the left and the right. There's lies, damn lies, and statistics. That's a saying that's been around for years, not because statistics are inherently wrong, but because liars can twist them to strengthen their own positions. I think you get that, but you downplay it in your mind. You have a disconnect between what is real and what you're told is real. Everyone does to some degree, but you are absolutely blind to how bad our establishment is right now.

Are you saying all the polls are fake?  You think Democrats don't exist?  Everyone actually loves Donald Trump and the MSM is covering it up?  I'm just trying to tell you guys, this is going to be a close election and she could win.  You arguing with that?
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(08-14-2024, 05:34 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(08-14-2024, 05:32 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: It's not a reality check, Marty. It's confirmation bias.

Look, at my core, I'm a data guy. I don't like to get lost in the weeds, but data is important for shaping our view of the world, no doubt. That said, our data is absolutely manipulated for political advantage, both on the left and the right. There's lies, damn lies, and statistics. That's a saying that's been around for years, not because statistics are inherently wrong, but because liars can twist them to strengthen their own positions. I think you get that, but you downplay it in your mind. You have a disconnect between what is real and what you're told is real. Everyone does to some degree, but you are absolutely blind to how bad our establishment is right now.

Are you saying all the polls are fake?  You think Democrats don't exist?  Everyone actually loves Donald Trump and the MSM is covering it up?  I'm just trying to tell you guys, this is going to be a close election and she could win.  You arguing with that?

Yes, the polls are manipulated with sample groups that produce clicks. 

Why won't you pick a side?
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You guys are busting Marty's chops because of his stance on Trump, but he's giving you facts. Harris has pulled ahead while Trump's campaign has failed to change their tactics. Insult-spitting rallies ain't gonna cut it anymore. He's not challenging an old white guy now, he's facing an icon of the most central values of the Democrat party, race and gender. They don't care about her dearth of policies and lack of initiative; they only see a female of color. In their eyes, that qualifies her for sainthood. If Trump's campaign doesn't start addressing this soon, get used to saying President Kamala Harris.
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(08-14-2024, 06:00 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(08-14-2024, 05:34 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: Are you saying all the polls are fake?  You think Democrats don't exist?  Everyone actually loves Donald Trump and the MSM is covering it up?  I'm just trying to tell you guys, this is going to be a close election and she could win.  You arguing with that?

Yes, the polls are manipulated with sample groups that produce clicks. 

Why won't you pick a side?

I think you just gave away the game.
Your side doesn't just want Trump to win.
Your side needs to ignore or besmirch all evidence that Trump might not win.  
Same thing your side did throughout 2020.
Same thing they did afterwards, refusing to admit that they didn't have the votes.
That's probably one of the reasons Marty is reluctant to join you.
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(This post was last modified: 08-14-2024, 06:25 PM by The Real Marty. Edited 2 times in total.)

(08-14-2024, 06:00 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(08-14-2024, 05:34 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: Are you saying all the polls are fake?  You think Democrats don't exist?  Everyone actually loves Donald Trump and the MSM is covering it up?  I'm just trying to tell you guys, this is going to be a close election and she could win.  You arguing with that?

Yes, the polls are manipulated with sample groups that produce clicks. 

Why won't you pick a side?

No need to yet.  When it comes time to vote, I'll have a decision.  Really, on the issues, I agree with the Dems on some, and with the Reps on others.

(08-14-2024, 06:13 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(08-14-2024, 06:00 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Yes, the polls are manipulated with sample groups that produce clicks. 

Why won't you pick a side?

I think you just gave away the game.
Your side doesn't just want Trump to win.
Your side needs to ignore or besmirch all evidence that Trump might not win.  
Same thing your side did throughout 2020.
Same thing they did afterwards, refusing to admit that they didn't have the votes.
That's probably one of the reasons Marty is reluctant to join you.

Trump and his core of supporters don't want to admit that there's any way he can lose, so when he does lose, they can claim the election was stolen.  Trump would tear the country apart for his own gratification.  People can say they are voting for the policies, and not the man, but for me, there is a limit, and he is way across it.
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(08-14-2024, 06:16 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(08-14-2024, 06:00 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Yes, the polls are manipulated with sample groups that produce clicks. 

Why won't you pick a side?

No need to yet.  When it comes time to vote, I'll have a decision.  Really, on the issues, I agree with the Dems on some, and with the Reps on others.

(08-14-2024, 06:13 PM)mikesez Wrote: I think you just gave away the game.
Your side doesn't just want Trump to win.
Your side needs to ignore or besmirch all evidence that Trump might not win.  
Same thing your side did throughout 2020.
Same thing they did afterwards, refusing to admit that they didn't have the votes.
That's probably one of the reasons Marty is reluctant to join you.

Trump and his core of supporters don't want to admit that there's any way he can lose, so when he does lose, they can claim the election was stolen.  Trump would tear the country apart for his own gratification.

Huh? What is changing in the next 3 months to sway you? Would love to hear this. Are you awaiting a DNC swap out? Perhaps another attempt on Trumps life? Maybe even a Trump sentencing? Are you quietly praying for another GOP candidate 3 months out?

I can do this too Marty.

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(08-14-2024, 06:05 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: You guys are busting Marty's chops because of his stance on Trump, but he's giving you facts. Harris has pulled ahead while Trump's campaign has failed to change their tactics. Insult-spitting rallies ain't gonna cut it anymore. He's not challenging an old white guy now, he's facing an icon of the most central values of the Democrat party, race and gender. They don't care about her dearth of policies and lack of initiative; they only see a female of color. In their eyes, that qualifies her for sainthood. If Trump's campaign doesn't start addressing this soon, get used to saying President Kamala Harris.

This made me laugh. Genuinely. Good line. 

I don't care about his stance on Trump. I care about an establishment that lies and manipulates and misinforms and leads. The moderates need to realize it's not Trump vs. Kamala. It's Trump vs. the Establishment. Nothing he posts is "evidence" of Trump losing. It's just statistical manipulation. Can Trump lose? Absolutely, but he's not facing a fair fight. Of that, I'm almost certain.
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(08-14-2024, 06:42 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(08-14-2024, 06:05 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: You guys are busting Marty's chops because of his stance on Trump, but he's giving you facts. Harris has pulled ahead while Trump's campaign has failed to change their tactics. Insult-spitting rallies ain't gonna cut it anymore. He's not challenging an old white guy now, he's facing an icon of the most central values of the Democrat party, race and gender. They don't care about her dearth of policies and lack of initiative; they only see a female of color. In their eyes, that qualifies her for sainthood. If Trump's campaign doesn't start addressing this soon, get used to saying President Kamala Harris.

This made me laugh. Genuinely. Good line. 

I don't care about his stance on Trump. I care about an establishment that lies and manipulates and misinforms and leads. The moderates need to realize it's not Trump vs. Kamala. It's Trump vs. the Establishment. Nothing he posts is "evidence" of Trump losing. It's just statistical manipulation. Can Trump lose? Absolutely, but he's not facing a fair fight. Of that, I'm almost certain.

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Yall are gonna have to suck it up and get onboard with Trump. You can have your GOP RINO warmongering candidates back in four years.
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(This post was last modified: 08-14-2024, 07:27 PM by WingerDinger. Edited 3 times in total.)

Hmmm.. Wonder where this is going.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/...Rl7ZQ&s=19

WOW. The Fair Election Fund @FairElectFund found 60,000 potential leads of donor fraud by the Biden-Harris camp via actblue.

They’re now working to hand over the verified findings to several AGs to further investigate.
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(08-14-2024, 06:51 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Yall are gonna have to suck it up and get onboard with Trump. You can have your GOP RINO warmongering candidates back in four years.

That's the whole point, man.  There's a risk we won't have any more peaceful, regular elections if that man gets in office one more time.
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