OK, I believe we need a new rule. Beginning this year we will play a 20 game season. that means we will count this years preseason games.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

And Jakobi Meyers, Juju Smith-Schuster and DeVante Parker.

Again as I said, he didn't have a star, but he wasn't playing with complete bums.

Very few teams have the luxury of having a Ja'marr Chase, or Justin Jefferson type.

The league has changed. You need talent at WR now to make defenses respect the whole playbook, having multiple WR4 or WR3 at best players doesn't really move the needle much. You don't even need a Chase or a Jefferson type; even a Kirk, Lockett or Marvin Jones (Detroit not Jacksonville) can be enough to elevate an offense and open things up.

Of course, but to say a bunch of guys drafted in the 1st and 2nd rounds aren't talented isn't true. They were drafted that high for a reason and talent is at the top of it.

You bring up Kirk, Lockett and Marvin, but most people think those guys are overpaid and average as well. If they aren't a star, they're a nobody in most people's eyes. Which is the same case here when talking about Mac's receivers with the Pats.

A good QB makes his receivers better and that's the fact of the matter.

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Good depth. Out in St. Auggy. Didn't get to watch the game, but, the box score looks great ladies and gentleman.

Running game looks good.

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A strong rushing attack and a strong Defense is a QBs best friend, which was the case for Mac's rookie year.

Andy Dalton was the ultimate average at best game managing QB, so yea that comp makes sense.

Yes because the Defense and Runningbacks threw the ball for Mac and thats how he accumulated those good numbers throwing the ball that first year. The Defense and running game didn't really change during his time in NE, the fact that he went from an actual OC to a DC calling the offense did change however. 

I mean if being a 3x probowler is average at best to you then I guess we fundamentally disagree on what "average" is.

The pro bowl is literally a fan voting popularity fest dude. It really doesn't mean jack [BLEEP] in the big picture of things. Nobody cares, or watches that anymore. They're already trying to slowly remove it with all the little games they've added. Dodge ball etc etc.

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Good depth. Out in St. Auggy. Didn't get to watch the game, but, the box score looks great ladies and gentleman.

Running game looks good.

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Running game had its moments and the 1st string Offense and Defense looked really good, but it was all against back ups tonight so it is what it is.

Either way, the production was there and should provide confidence going into week 1. Team overall looked pretty solid throughout these past 3 games.

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Yes because the Defense and Runningbacks threw the ball for Mac and thats how he accumulated those good numbers throwing the ball that first year. The Defense and running game didn't really change during his time in NE, the fact that he went from an actual OC to a DC calling the offense did change however. 

I mean if being a 3x probowler is average at best to you then I guess we fundamentally disagree on what "average" is.

The pro bowl is literally a fan voting popularity fest dude. It really doesn't mean jack [BLEEP] in the big picture of things. Nobody cares, or watches that anymore. They're already trying to slowly remove it with all the little games they've added. Dodge ball etc etc.

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Good depth. Out in St. Auggy. Didn't get to watch the game, but, the box score looks great ladies and gentleman.

Running game looks good.

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Running game had its moments and the 1st string Offense and Defense looked really good, but it was all against back ups tonight so it is what it is.

Either way, the production was there and should provide confidence going into week 1. Team overall looked pretty solid throughout these past 3 games.

It's promising to see Bigsby up number wise. De'Ernest will make for a good 3RB as well.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

The league has changed. You need talent at WR now to make defenses respect the whole playbook, having multiple WR4 or WR3 at best players doesn't really move the needle much. You don't even need a Chase or a Jefferson type; even a Kirk, Lockett or Marvin Jones (Detroit not Jacksonville) can be enough to elevate an offense and open things up.

Of course, but to say a bunch of guys drafted in the 1st and 2nd rounds aren't talented isn't true. They were drafted that high for a reason and talent is at the top of it.

You bring up Kirk, Lockett and Marvin, but most people think those guys are overpaid and average as well. If they aren't a star, they're a nobody in most people's eyes. Which is the same case here when talking about Mac's receivers with the Pats.

A good QB makes his receivers better and that's the fact of the matter.

Lol, with that logic Mac was drafted in the first for a reason and talent is at the top of it.  I thought if anyone knew, a Jags fan would know more than anyone what round you are drafted in means nothing after the draft.  We have had UDFA come in and take a top 5 overall picks spot.  A top 10 pick traded for peanuts a year or 2 after he was drafted, the list goes on and on.  The round a player was drafted in means nothing if he sucks after he's drafted.  Those 1st and 2nd round drafted WRs were garbage.

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Of course, but to say a bunch of guys drafted in the 1st and 2nd rounds aren't talented isn't true. They were drafted that high for a reason and talent is at the top of it.

You bring up Kirk, Lockett and Marvin, but most people think those guys are overpaid and average as well. If they aren't a star, they're a nobody in most people's eyes. Which is the same case here when talking about Mac's receivers with the Pats.

A good QB makes his receivers better and that's the fact of the matter.

Lol, with that logic Mac was drafted in the first for a reason and talent is at the top of it.  I thought if anyone knew, a Jags fan would know more than anyone what round you are drafted in means nothing after the draft.  We have had UDFA come in and take a top 5 overall picks spot.  A top 10 pick traded for peanuts a year or 2 after he was drafted, the list goes on and on.  The round a player was drafted in means nothing if he sucks after he's drafted.  Those 1st and 2nd round drafted WRs were garbage.

Ok then you're saying Mac is garbage also, that's fine.

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Trammel has earned a spot

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Trammel has earned a spot

On the practice squad. There’s simply not enough room for him on the active roster. I know people are tired of hearing it but the 6th WR doesn’t see the field so they are kept for special teams value. Tim Jones is miles ahead of the rest of the guys in that area so he’s probably going to get the 6th spot.

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Really excited now for the regular season, trying really hard to temper my expectations

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OK, I believe we need a new rule. Beginning this year we will play a 20 game season. that means we will  count this years preseason games.

Terrible idea. Players have enough strain on their bodies as it is, and the NFLPA would never accept this. Really it should be going the other way. I suggest a 3 game season, with preseason games counting.

Now, who are we playing in the Superbowl?

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It was a great game last night.  it was fun to watch the jags  run away with a game.   First of all the the jags are gonna have a really really hard time cutting some players, and moveing them to practice squad.  Theres some depth for jags espaissley on defense. 


if the team stays healthy ,and keeps the chip on thier  sholder from last season even with the toughest schedule in nfl this is a 12-5 team.

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It was a great game last night.  it was fun to watch the jags  run away with a game.   First of all the the jags are gonna have a really really hard time cutting some players, and moveing them to practice squad.  Theres some depth for jags espaissley on defense. 


if the team stays healthy ,and keeps the chip on thier  sholder from last season even with the toughest schedule in nfl this is a 12-5 team.

Great to see you positive wolfie

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Lol, with that logic Mac was drafted in the first for a reason and talent is at the top of it.  I thought if anyone knew, a Jags fan would know more than anyone what round you are drafted in means nothing after the draft.  We have had UDFA come in and take a top 5 overall picks spot.  A top 10 pick traded for peanuts a year or 2 after he was drafted, the list goes on and on.  The round a player was drafted in means nothing if he sucks after he's drafted.  Those 1st and 2nd round drafted WRs were garbage.

Ok then you're saying Mac is garbage also, that's fine.

I’m curious what your opinion of Baker Mayfield is?

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Teams don't simply trade away good young quarterbacks for 6th round picks. Sorry, but that just doesn't happen.

Is he better than CJ? Yea probably, but that isn't saying much. Mac is average at best.

I don't care how dumb New England is.  I know what I see.  Mac Jones will be starting somewhere next year.

If he signs a decent deal then we may receive a compensatory pick in the 26 draft.

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Respect the game.  Play with a sense of urgency. 


1.)  Take care of the ball.  Win the turnover battle.

2.)  It's all about 3rd down.  Win on 3rd down to win the game.

3.) Playmakers make plays.  The only reason that you put your uniform on is to make plays. In order to EARN your paycheck, you must make plays.  

Learn from the great collapse of 2023.  

You draft or bring in priority UFA almost every year. You are always looking to replace with younger and cheaper and it’s a position that you rotate the players.

You take a chance on UFA at RB and see what they can offer but we'd be very lucky to find one that offers Etienne's production. I completely get the leagues attitude towards RB's but I disagree that the position isn't as important anymore. An RB that can break tackles and get 1st downs make a huge difference over the course of a season, especially in January when the weather becomes a factor.

I'm not saying we pay Etienne crazy money but I would keep him and if we find strong competition it's a win win.

Bigsby has looked good this preseason. He and ETN make a good 1-2 punch. I’d be disappointed if they didn’t re-sign Travis.


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Fix the O-Line!

Ok then you're saying Mac is garbage also, that's fine.

I’m curious what your opinion of Baker Mayfield is?

I'm not him obviously, but I think Mayfield and Lawrence had similar paths. Both went 1st overall to a franchise that was a perennial loser, were saddled with a horrifically untalented roster, suffered awful first year coaching that resulted in a mid-season firing, and had to play with Carlos Hyde. Lawrence luckily got Pederson while Mayfield had to spend a year with Freddie Kitchens before they found Stefanski. Both brought dumpster fire teams to playoff wins in the first couple years, which to me is a very significant accomplishment for both. Interestingly, both suffered injuries in the following season that derail a 3-1 start for the browns and an 8-3 start for us last year. Mayfield ended up traded away after that and wandered in the desert for two years but now seems to have found a new home in Tampa. Lawrence looks sharp as ever so far this year...so this looks like the place where their stories really diverge, but the similarities are pretty significant for the two men. Mayfield was always very talented, had he not torn that shoulder up he's likely viewed much more positively today.

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Kirk, Thomas, Davis, Washington, Cooks, Trammell is our WR corp right?

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if we are makeing new rules lets make one were jags play on my birthday augest 23rd and it counts as 16 games.  then they would make playoffs for sure even undeafted.    as far as i can rember jags have always won when they played the day of my birthday.

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Kirk, Thomas, Davis, Washington, Cooks, Trammell is our WR corp right?

No chance, Duvernay is a lock.  Tim Jones is almost certainly that sixth guy.

Trammell and cooks on the psquad seems right.

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