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Florida Amendment 3 yes or no

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I have to look more into this but from what I understand it’s the full legalization of recreational marijuana. 

To me it should be treated like tobacco and alcohol, regulate it, tax it and legalize it. 

I am concerned about the idea they want to make all smoking tobacco and marijuana illegal outside. Most businesses already have no smoking signs but if it’s going to be illegal to smoke in my car or in a public open area where do you expect people to smoke? 

What’s everyone else’s thoughts on Amendment 3
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People will be free to smoke in their single family homes with spacious yards. All our legislators and councilmen live in homes like that. You don't? Too bad.
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(08-25-2024, 10:31 PM)EricC85 Wrote: I have to look more into this but from what I understand it’s the full legalization of recreational marijuana. 

To me it should be treated like tobacco and alcohol, regulate it, tax it and legalize it. 

I am concerned about the idea they want to make all smoking tobacco and marijuana illegal outside. Most businesses already have no smoking signs but if it’s going to be illegal to smoke in my car or in a public open area where do you expect people to smoke? 

What’s everyone else’s thoughts on Amendment 3

That is a California law, otherwise know as a Newsome special.  I believe you have to have your blinds pulled so it is not visible from the road. Some Karen will pimp you out.
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(This post was last modified: 08-26-2024, 05:07 AM by Caldrac.)

Undecided on this. Not against it completely. Not for it entirely.

It has it's up's and down's. Like most things in life.

My ultimate concern, is, quality control and monopolization of the actual substance.

24 states have it legalized now I believe for this use. Once it reaches a certain level I fear it will become less "Mom & Pop" like and more "Uncle Sam" like.

Strains probably become watered down, synthetic and laced with God knows what at that point.

That's the double edged sword in all of this for me.

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And, then, as far as areas where to smoke publicly? I don't see any harm or issues with designated areas that we have had for a long time to do so.

If someone had an issue with you smoking in your car though? That's a little wild to me. Unless you rolled up on somebody first that was already there and then decided to do it.

Just have to use your best judgement from there I suppose. People are going to smoke regardless of laws and rules though.

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It should be treated the same as alcohol because the smoker is ingesting an intoxicant. It falls under open container laws.
Additionally, it should also be treated like cigarettes because of the smoke. So while a person may enjoy a beer in their seat at the stadium, they will not be able to smoke unless in a designated area.
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(08-26-2024, 05:24 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: It should be treated the same as alcohol because the smoker is ingesting an intoxicant. It falls under open container laws.
Additionally, it should also be treated like cigarettes because of the smoke. So while a person may enjoy a beer in their seat at the stadium, they will not be able to smoke unless in a designated area.
Exactly. Common sense approach. Stoner and Non-Stoner sections at the stadium.

We'll have two Budzone's now, or, we can combine it and call it the Superjoint or Crossfade section.

Nacho sales are about to go through the roof.

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(08-26-2024, 05:24 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: It should be treated the same as alcohol because the smoker is ingesting an intoxicant. It falls under open container laws.
Additionally, it should also be treated like cigarettes because of the smoke. So while a person may enjoy a beer in their seat at the stadium, they will not be able to smoke unless in a designated area.

I agree that that's a common sense approach if you want to legalize it.  But I'm not sure I want to legalize it.  I smoked so much in my younger years, I'm surprised I don't have lung cancer.   And I enjoyed it.  But I think it was the biggest most non-productive waste of time in my entire life.  I guess we might as well legalize it because everyone who wants to smoke it is already smoking it.  But there's nothing good about it.
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(This post was last modified: 08-26-2024, 07:12 AM by StroudCrowd1. Edited 1 time in total.)

I am tired of smelling weed in public and so are my little kids. I can't smell other people drinking. 100% for banning weed in public places. These pot heads have taken over advantage of the good nature of society.

Plus, the youth in this country are already headed to am idiocracy type of future. Do we really need to expedite that?
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(08-26-2024, 06:54 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(08-26-2024, 05:24 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: It should be treated the same as alcohol because the smoker is ingesting an intoxicant. It falls under open container laws.
Additionally, it should also be treated like cigarettes because of the smoke. So while a person may enjoy a beer in their seat at the stadium, they will not be able to smoke unless in a designated area.

I agree that that's a common sense approach if you want to legalize it.  But I'm not sure I want to legalize it.  I smoked so much in my younger years, I'm surprised I don't have lung cancer.   And I enjoyed it.  But I think it was the biggest most non-productive waste of time in my entire life.  I guess we might as well legalize it because everyone who wants to smoke it is already smoking it.  But there's nothing good about it.

Same with me.
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(This post was last modified: 08-26-2024, 08:07 AM by Caldrac.)

(08-26-2024, 06:54 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(08-26-2024, 05:24 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: It should be treated the same as alcohol because the smoker is ingesting an intoxicant. It falls under open container laws.
Additionally, it should also be treated like cigarettes because of the smoke. So while a person may enjoy a beer in their seat at the stadium, they will not be able to smoke unless in a designated area.

I agree that that's a common sense approach if you want to legalize it.  But I'm not sure I want to legalize it.  I smoked so much in my younger years, I'm surprised I don't have lung cancer.   And I enjoyed it.  But I think it was the biggest most non-productive waste of time in my entire life.  I guess we might as well legalize it because everyone who wants to smoke it is already smoking it.  But there's nothing good about it.
Same. I am 36, wasn't really an avid smoker or consistent with it. More of a social thing, same way with alcohol.

I just don't like it. Dulls the mind. Dulls the senses. I end up regretting it the next day. Because it's usually something you do and it leads to more drinking, overeating or sleeping in longer.

I get it though. If it helps you function? Have at it. My Mom is a life long smoker and stoner. It's helped her function. My Dad quit right after I was born.

Everybody is wired differently.

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I will vote yes. Really no need for it though. With medical availability already anyone who really wants to be "legal" is already a card holder.
There will be the added advantage for income to the state coffers and local business owners as well.
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(08-26-2024, 08:19 AM)Jagwired Wrote: I will vote yes. Really no need for it though. With medical availability already anyone who really wants to be "legal" is already a card holder.
There will be the added advantage for income to the state coffers and local business owners as well.
Yeah, but, does this also open up the state politically flipping blue potentially? It feels like the majority of these states supporting this are blue, and, they're not the best states to live in.

It might be different county to county, but, imagine legalizing this as a state only to turn Florida into California or New York with a Gavin Newsom or Kathy Hochul type Governor.

It's funny, I am a Millenial, but, probably coming off as a religious Boomer bible thumper now.

It's just a weird situation for me to support. Everything has a price. If you would have asked me this question roughly seven to eight years ago? I would have been in full support.

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(08-26-2024, 08:31 AM)Caldrac Wrote:
(08-26-2024, 08:19 AM)Jagwired Wrote: I will vote yes. Really no need for it though. With medical availability already anyone who really wants to be "legal" is already a card holder.
There will be the added advantage for income to the state coffers and local business owners as well.
Yeah, but, does this also open up the state politically flipping blue potentially? It feels like the majority of these states supporting this are blue, and, they're not the best states to live in.

It might be different county to county, but, imagine legalizing this as a state only to turn Florida into California or New York with a Gavin Newsom or Kathy Hochul type Governor.

It's funny, I am a Millenial, but, probably coming off as a religious Boomer bible thumper now.

It's just a weird situation for me to support. Everything has a price. If you would have asked me this question roughly seven to eight years ago? I would have been in full support.

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This is a good point about culture and mindset that I agree with, however, I think full legalization is inevitable.  I don't care if someone smokes weed and I know many who do.  I don't think it should be prosecuted unless someone is illegally dealing, but I also don't know that I'm interested in putting a vote in for that culture either.
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(08-26-2024, 06:54 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(08-26-2024, 05:24 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: It should be treated the same as alcohol because the smoker is ingesting an intoxicant. It falls under open container laws.
Additionally, it should also be treated like cigarettes because of the smoke. So while a person may enjoy a beer in their seat at the stadium, they will not be able to smoke unless in a designated area.

I agree that that's a common sense approach if you want to legalize it.  But I'm not sure I want to legalize it.  I smoked so much in my younger years, I'm surprised I don't have lung cancer.   And I enjoyed it.  But I think it was the biggest most non-productive waste of time in my entire life.  I guess we might as well legalize it because everyone who wants to smoke it is already smoking it.  But there's nothing good about it.

False, marijuana has significant medicinal uses. Epilepsy, Crohn's, Cancer, and M.S. are just a few of the conditions it's helping to treat every day. Therapeutic uses for PTSD, Stress, and Anxiety are more effective than prescription drugs and other forms of self medication like drinking and drug use. I don't personally use it, but to say there's nothing good about it is plain wrong.

And I'm for removing any laws about it aside from impairment laws.
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(08-26-2024, 08:42 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(08-26-2024, 08:31 AM)Caldrac Wrote: Yeah, but, does this also open up the state politically flipping blue potentially? It feels like the majority of these states supporting this are blue, and, they're not the best states to live in.

It might be different county to county, but, imagine legalizing this as a state only to turn Florida into California or New York with a Gavin Newsom or Kathy Hochul type Governor.

It's funny, I am a Millenial, but, probably coming off as a religious Boomer bible thumper now.

It's just a weird situation for me to support. Everything has a price. If you would have asked me this question roughly seven to eight years ago? I would have been in full support.

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This is a good point about culture and mindset that I agree with, however, I think full legalization is inevitable.  I don't care if someone smokes weed and I know many who do.  I don't think it should be prosecuted unless someone is illegally dealing, but I also don't know that I'm interested in putting a vote in for that culture either.
Unfortunately for life long conservative Floridians this is already in full swing. To much influx of blue state evacuees that flee their [BLEEP] because of blue policy and then just bring the same attitude and voting preference that they have always subscribed to our elections. Florida is purple headed to blue.
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I'm 100% fine with keeping it medical use only..
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(08-26-2024, 08:58 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(08-26-2024, 06:54 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I agree that that's a common sense approach if you want to legalize it.  But I'm not sure I want to legalize it.  I smoked so much in my younger years, I'm surprised I don't have lung cancer.   And I enjoyed it.  But I think it was the biggest most non-productive waste of time in my entire life.  I guess we might as well legalize it because everyone who wants to smoke it is already smoking it.  But there's nothing good about it.

False, marijuana has significant medicinal uses. Epilepsy, Crohn's, Cancer, and M.S. are just a few of the conditions it's helping to treat every day. Therapeutic uses for PTSD, Stress, and Anxiety are more effective than prescription drugs and other forms of self medication like drinking and drug use. I don't personally use it, but to say there's nothing good about it is plain wrong.

And I'm for removing any laws about it aside from impairment laws.

Good points.  I will change my statement to: There's nothing good about recreational marijuana.
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(This post was last modified: 08-26-2024, 09:22 AM by Caldrac.)

(08-26-2024, 08:42 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(08-26-2024, 08:31 AM)Caldrac Wrote: Yeah, but, does this also open up the state politically flipping blue potentially? It feels like the majority of these states supporting this are blue, and, they're not the best states to live in.

It might be different county to county, but, imagine legalizing this as a state only to turn Florida into California or New York with a Gavin Newsom or Kathy Hochul type Governor.

It's funny, I am a Millenial, but, probably coming off as a religious Boomer bible thumper now.

It's just a weird situation for me to support. Everything has a price. If you would have asked me this question roughly seven to eight years ago? I would have been in full support.

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This is a good point about culture and mindset that I agree with, however, I think full legalization is inevitable.  I don't care if someone smokes weed and I know many who do.  I don't think it should be prosecuted unless someone is illegally dealing, but I also don't know that I'm interested in putting a vote in for that culture either.
I have this same stance, however, I just wonder what it will cost this state politically across the board.

I enjoy the way Florida is at the moment. Duval county recently flipping blue didn't surprise me though.

As our city has become less of a transient location and more of a transplant location for out of state movers during the pandemic.

The growth here is impressive but also a tad bit concerning, as, per usual, growth naturally brings on the challenges of growing pains.

I don't care if you smoke it. Grown up around it my whole life. Partake in it from time to time. So, I won't be a hypocrite in that regard.

Just not sure I am a fan of it being easily accessible for recreational use, especially with our state already deemed a prime location as a tourist spot and party hub.

Medically? I'll always support it. Especially for those in chronic pain or nearing the end of their existence. Would rather be stoned out of my mind with Rick Simpson Oil instead of doped out of mine with a strong opiod.

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(08-26-2024, 08:59 AM)Jagwired Wrote:
(08-26-2024, 08:42 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: This is a good point about culture and mindset that I agree with, however, I think full legalization is inevitable.  I don't care if someone smokes weed and I know many who do.  I don't think it should be prosecuted unless someone is illegally dealing, but I also don't know that I'm interested in putting a vote in for that culture either.
Unfortunately for life long conservative Floridians this is already in full swing. To much influx of blue state evacuees that flee their [BLEEP] because of blue policy and then just bring the same attitude and voting preference that they have always subscribed to our elections. Florida is purple headed to blue.
Yep. That's my concern right there. It is feeling purple at the moment. My fear is that we turn into California or New York going into the next decade.

Which would make life here interesting for me raising my son and trying to finish out as a railroader career wise.

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(08-26-2024, 09:19 AM)Caldrac Wrote:
(08-26-2024, 08:42 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: This is a good point about culture and mindset that I agree with, however, I think full legalization is inevitable.  I don't care if someone smokes weed and I know many who do.  I don't think it should be prosecuted unless someone is illegally dealing, but I also don't know that I'm interested in putting a vote in for that culture either.
I have this same stance, however, I just wonder what it will cost this state politically across the board.

I enjoy the way Florida is at the moment. Duval county recently flipping blue didn't surprise me though.

As our city has become less of a transient location and more of a transplant location for out of state movers during the pandemic.

The growth here is impressive but also a tad bit concerning, as, per usual, growth naturally brings on the challenges of growing pains.

I don't care if you smoke it. Grown up around it my whole life. Partake in it from time to time. So, I won't be a hypocrite in that regard.

Just not sure I am a fan of it being easily accessible for recreational use, especially with our state already deemed a prime location as a tourist spot and party hub.

Medically? I'll always support it. Especially for those in chronic pain or nearing the end of their existence. Would rather be stoned out of my mind with Rick Simpson Oil instead of doped out of mine with a strong opiod.

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(08-26-2024, 08:59 AM)Jagwired Wrote: Unfortunately for life long conservative Floridians this is already in full swing. To much influx of blue state evacuees that flee their [BLEEP] because of blue policy and then just bring the same attitude and voting preference that they have always subscribed to our elections. Florida is purple headed to blue.
Yep. That's my concern right there. It is feeling purple at the moment. My fear is that we turn into California or New York going into the next decade.

Which would make life here interesting for me raising my son and trying to finish out as a railroader career wise.

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Works for me, I'll sell my $300k home for a few million, pack up our stuff and buy another $300k home somewhere else and live off the profits!!

Considering I paid around 100k for my home about 9 years ago lolol
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(08-26-2024, 09:29 AM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(08-26-2024, 09:19 AM)Caldrac Wrote: I have this same stance, however, I just wonder what it will cost this state politically across the board.

I enjoy the way Florida is at the moment. Duval county recently flipping blue didn't surprise me though.

As our city has become less of a transient location and more of a transplant location for out of state movers during the pandemic.

The growth here is impressive but also a tad bit concerning, as, per usual, growth naturally brings on the challenges of growing pains.

I don't care if you smoke it. Grown up around it my whole life. Partake in it from time to time. So, I won't be a hypocrite in that regard.

Just not sure I am a fan of it being easily accessible for recreational use, especially with our state already deemed a prime location as a tourist spot and party hub.

Medically? I'll always support it. Especially for those in chronic pain or nearing the end of their existence. Would rather be stoned out of my mind with Rick Simpson Oil instead of doped out of mine with a strong opiod.

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Yep. That's my concern right there. It is feeling purple at the moment. My fear is that we turn into California or New York going into the next decade.

Which would make life here interesting for me raising my son and trying to finish out as a railroader career wise.

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Works for me, I'll sell my $300k home for a few million, pack up our stuff and buy another $300k home somewhere else and live off the profits!!

Considering I paid around 100k for my home about 9 years ago lolol
I am in the same boat house wise. Only have $65K left on it to pay and bought it 12 years ago when it was truly a buyer's market.

I just really hate change and I really don't want to leave Jacksonville.

Born and raised here my whole life. All 36 years. Would like to keep it that way if possible. I know it's not realistic. Change is inevitable. Change is constant.

But, man, I sure do hate it. I guess, if I can endure it? I should shut up and endure it, eh?

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