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Trump's Deportation Plan

#21

(08-27-2024, 02:19 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(08-27-2024, 12:38 PM)mikesez Wrote: You can't deport people just because they were arrested.  They have to be convicted before you can deport.  
What you mean to say is if someone is arrested for a crime, and found to be in the country illegally, they should then be prosecuted for that crime as well as the civil infraction of overstaying their visa.  That's complicated.  Those are usually two different judges and two different prosecutors.  Maybe there's a way to untangle it.

The ones being arrested for theft or violent crimes didn't get here by "overstaying their visa", they walked in through the Biden-Harris open border.

It's not difficult to deport people like these.

One case outlined in the article:
Quote:The suspect was previously charged in Maryland with theft, at which point U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement attempted to have local police hold him in custody until they could transfer him to federal custody. The local officials refused, setting Trejo-Granados free.
 
He was arrested again in the state in September and again ICE’s request was denied.

Trejo-Granados had been ordered deported by a federal immigration judge in Newark, New Jersey, in November 2022, but ICE had not been able to take him into custody.

This is a result of democrats like you in blue cities letting these people go rather than deport them.

Just shoot them and save everyone the trouble.
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#22
(This post was last modified: 08-27-2024, 06:09 PM by OG-JAGFAN. Edited 1 time in total.)

It would not be that hard to deport the masses. I support Mass Deportation. Many are coming over, have 0 respect for our culture or customs, contribute 0 to our country and essentially are leeches. I have witnessed this in my own state.

When I first moved to my northeast very liberal state, it was very diverse. In the last 3 years it has change dramatically to about 75% hispanic. All of the lower end jobs in my area are taken up by people who are new to this country. My local walmarts, local, restaurants, local bars, even all the retail stores almost all now are fully Hispanic. They are even giving Immigrants $60,000 grants to open up their own businesses and now my town is full of foreign businesses.

Many would say that is great. I say Screw people who think this way. The majority of Americans mostly work blue collar jobs, Now they are competing with millions of new people coming into the country and it also drives down wages. I see Hospitals and Resources being drained by these new Arrivals. What is worst and many I have talked to and see do not even appreciate it. They got this crazy sense of entitlement. I am not talking about all but my personal experiences.

My plan to get them out of here:

1. Many are getting state and federal funding, they have to have an address on file. That is one way to track many
2. Many illegal kids are now attending schools, another way to track them
3. As stated earlier, there are plenty that do crimes. Once arrested and found to be in the country illegally it is an instant deportation
4. Immigration raids. When I grew up it was fairly common to see immigration raids on the South side of Jacksonville. You would hear them yell "la migra" and start running

Anyone who has entered the country illegally should be sent back immediately with their family. I am just tired of the liberal feel sorry for the world babble. America is falling apart, greed has taken over, education is struggling, it's time to focus on Americans first for a change. You can't harbor the whole world.
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#23
(This post was last modified: 08-27-2024, 06:29 PM by p_rushing.)

It's very simple. You make them turn themselves in.

You give them 3 months to leave voluntarily. Anyone wishing to return to the US, must stop and be fingerprinted, DNA captured, photographed, and real information from country of origin provided. Anyone that is not found to have committed crimes from across the country search using DNA, fingerprints, and photos will be given priority to return after passing background checks and capability check that they won't be diluting gene pool with their low intelligence.

Anyone found in the US after 3 months, receives 15-20 year ban from entering the US for them and anyone related to them using DNA testing. Relatives will be added to the 1st group if they turn them in.

Anyone found after 6 months, receives a lifetime ban from entering the US for them and anyone related to them.


You may need to add more time to document them all but making them deport themselves is the best option.

You can also stop the money flow out of the US and issue immediate forfeiture of all assets when caught. Stopping their ability to send money home or bring it with them will stop a ton from staying here.

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#24
(This post was last modified: 08-27-2024, 07:25 PM by mikesez. Edited 1 time in total.)

I don't know which is less plausible, yall's fantasies about what is actually happening, or yall's fantasies about what government might actually do about it.

There will be an effort to deport more people, more people will certainly get deported, and from that point on fewer are likely to come over without permission. It will never be eliminated, but it will be reduced for a while. That's the good news.

The bad news is, it's going to be a crap shoot between who gets deported and who has to stay.
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#25

I live in a very small town in Ohio (3400 people) in the last 2-3 years the amount of brown skinned (assuming Mexican, doesn't speak english. Seems to be spanish) have moved in is very eye opening. The majority of houses for sale during that time have been bought up by them. They are living multiple people per house. I'd guess a good 8-10 adult males. Very few seem to have females. I was recently talking to a guy who owns an apartment complex and he was telling me about how they had an interrupter come in and setup the apartment for one of them, it turned out there was 6 living in this 1 bedroom apartment. He ended up having to evict them because the whole building became roach infested. The apartment was full of trash in bags. They were sleeping on the bags of trash. Millions of roaches came running out. He said they were working on some chicken and pig farms around the area.
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(08-28-2024, 07:48 AM)TheSkipWillis Wrote: I live in a very small town in Ohio (3400 people) in the last 2-3 years the amount of brown skinned (assuming Mexican, doesn't speak english. Seems to be spanish) have moved in is very eye opening. The majority of houses for sale during that time have been bought up by them. They are living multiple people per house. I'd guess a good 8-10 adult males. Very few seem to have females. I was recently talking to a guy who owns an apartment complex and he was telling me about how they had an interrupter come in and setup the apartment for one of them, it turned out there was 6 living in this 1 bedroom apartment. He ended up having to evict them because the whole building became roach infested. The apartment was full of trash in bags. They were sleeping on the bags of trash. Millions of roaches came running out. He said they were working on some chicken and pig farms around the area.

Those guys are the worst.  They won't let you finish a thought.
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(08-28-2024, 07:54 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(08-28-2024, 07:48 AM)TheSkipWillis Wrote: I live in a very small town in Ohio (3400 people) in the last 2-3 years the amount of brown skinned (assuming Mexican, doesn't speak english. Seems to be spanish) have moved in is very eye opening. The majority of houses for sale during that time have been bought up by them. They are living multiple people per house. I'd guess a good 8-10 adult males. Very few seem to have females. I was recently talking to a guy who owns an apartment complex and he was telling me about how they had an interrupter come in and setup the apartment for one of them, it turned out there was 6 living in this 1 bedroom apartment. He ended up having to evict them because the whole building became roach infested. The apartment was full of trash in bags. They were sleeping on the bags of trash. Millions of roaches came running out. He said they were working on some chicken and pig farms around the area.

Those guys are the worst.  They won't let you finish a thought.

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#28

(08-27-2024, 07:24 PM)mikesez Wrote: I don't know which is less plausible, yall's fantasies about what is actually happening, or yall's fantasies about what government might actually do about it.

There will be an effort to deport more people, more people will certainly get deported, and from that point on fewer are likely to come over without permission. It will never be eliminated, but it will be reduced for a while.  That's the good news.

The bad news is, it's going to be a crap shoot between who gets deported and who has to stay.

No one is going to do anything about it, it's us against the government. Ya'll just haven't caught up yet and think who you vote for in a few weeks will make a difference.
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#29

(08-27-2024, 07:24 PM)mikesez Wrote: I don't know which is less plausible, yall's fantasies about what is actually happening, or yall's fantasies about what government might actually do about it.

There will be an effort to deport more people, more people will certainly get deported, and from that point on fewer are likely to come over without permission. It will never be eliminated, but it will be reduced for a while.  That's the good news.

The bad news is, it's going to be a crap shoot between who gets deported and who has to stay.

Do you not understand the difference between the Trump and Harris immigration policies?
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#30

(08-28-2024, 11:49 AM)Sneakers Wrote:
(08-27-2024, 07:24 PM)mikesez Wrote: I don't know which is less plausible, yall's fantasies about what is actually happening, or yall's fantasies about what government might actually do about it.

There will be an effort to deport more people, more people will certainly get deported, and from that point on fewer are likely to come over without permission. It will never be eliminated, but it will be reduced for a while.  That's the good news.

The bad news is, it's going to be a crap shoot between who gets deported and who has to stay.

Do you not understand the difference between the Trump and Harris immigration policies?

Sure, there is a difference, both in the policy, and in the way that policy is perceived by the people who might try to come over.
That's not my point.
My point is your post #12, and also post 22 from another user, are not very realistic in terms of how much control the next president will have over who comes, who goes, and who stays.
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#31

(08-28-2024, 11:49 AM)Sneakers Wrote:
(08-27-2024, 07:24 PM)mikesez Wrote: I don't know which is less plausible, yall's fantasies about what is actually happening, or yall's fantasies about what government might actually do about it.

There will be an effort to deport more people, more people will certainly get deported, and from that point on fewer are likely to come over without permission. It will never be eliminated, but it will be reduced for a while.  That's the good news.

The bad news is, it's going to be a crap shoot between who gets deported and who has to stay.

Do you not understand the difference between the Trump and Harris immigration policies?
You could tell her supporters that kakula as POTUS would let every single human that shows up at the border in, make them citizens and give them all monthly stipends and they will still vote for her. She is not Trump and that is their only qualifier. Some here, like mikey have admitted as much. They are the perfect liberal policy water carriers that the liberal public school/University system has striven to manufacture now for going on 30 years. Pathetic.
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#32

(08-28-2024, 12:08 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(08-28-2024, 11:49 AM)Sneakers Wrote: Do you not understand the difference between the Trump and Harris immigration policies?

Sure, there is a difference, both in the policy, and in the way that policy is perceived by the people who might try to come over.
That's not my point.
My point is your post #12, and also post 22 from another user, are not very realistic in terms of how much control the next president will have over who comes, who goes, and who stays.

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#33

(08-27-2024, 07:24 PM)mikesez Wrote: I don't know which is less plausible, yall's fantasies about what is actually happening, or yall's fantasies about what government might actually do about it.

There will be an effort to deport more people, more people will certainly get deported, and from that point on fewer are likely to come over without permission. It will never be eliminated, but it will be reduced for a while.  That's the good news.

The bad news is, it's going to be a crap shoot between who gets deported and who has to stay.

So tell us what is actually happening.  Are dangerous gang members being let into the country?  Are people on the Terrorist Watch List gaining entry to the country?  Are illegal aliens who have been arrested being let go?  Or is it like yours and Marty's fantasy that the majority of the illegals came here on vacation and over-stayed their visas?


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(08-28-2024, 03:40 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(08-27-2024, 07:24 PM)mikesez Wrote: I don't know which is less plausible, yall's fantasies about what is actually happening, or yall's fantasies about what government might actually do about it.

There will be an effort to deport more people, more people will certainly get deported, and from that point on fewer are likely to come over without permission. It will never be eliminated, but it will be reduced for a while.  That's the good news.

The bad news is, it's going to be a crap shoot between who gets deported and who has to stay.

So tell us what is actually happening.  Are dangerous gang members being let into the country?  Are people on the Terrorist Watch List gaining entry to the country?  Are illegal aliens who have been arrested being let go?  Or is it like yours and Marty's fantasy that the majority of the illegals came here on vacation and over-stayed their visas?

I don't know those answers and neither do you.
That's the thing about illegal and nefarious activities, they are very hard to quantify no matter how hard you try to stop them.
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#35

(08-28-2024, 05:04 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(08-28-2024, 03:40 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: So tell us what is actually happening.  Are dangerous gang members being let into the country?  Are people on the Terrorist Watch List gaining entry to the country?  Are illegal aliens who have been arrested being let go?  Or is it like yours and Marty's fantasy that the majority of the illegals came here on vacation and over-stayed their visas?

I don't know those answers and neither do you.
That's the thing about illegal and nefarious activities, they are very hard to quantify no matter how hard you try to stop them.

Usually the incidents that are detected are the tip of the iceberg.
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#36

(08-28-2024, 12:08 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(08-28-2024, 11:49 AM)Sneakers Wrote: Do you not understand the difference between the Trump and Harris immigration policies?

Sure, there is a difference, both in the policy, and in the way that policy is perceived by the people who might try to come over.
That's not my point.
My point is your post #12, and also post 22 from another user, are not very realistic in terms of how much control the next president will have over who comes, who goes, and who stays.

No, you just have your head buried in the sand in regard to Harris, all because of your hatred of Trump.  The next President will have a great deal of control if he or she chooses to utilize it.  Harris simply won't.  Under her administration, any and all who want to come in will be able to do so, and nobody will be deported.
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#37

(08-27-2024, 07:24 PM)mikesez Wrote: I don't know which is less plausible, yall's fantasies about what is actually happening, or yall's fantasies about what government might actually do about it.

There will be an effort to deport more people, more people will certainly get deported, and from that point on fewer are likely to come over without permission. It will never be eliminated, but it will be reduced for a while.  That's the good news.

The bad news is, it's going to be a crap shoot between who gets deported and who has to stay.

Hey guys! The government can do ANYTHING democrats want to get done. Also, the government can't get done anything that Republicans want to get done. -Mikesez
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(08-28-2024, 11:11 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(08-27-2024, 07:24 PM)mikesez Wrote: I don't know which is less plausible, yall's fantasies about what is actually happening, or yall's fantasies about what government might actually do about it.

There will be an effort to deport more people, more people will certainly get deported, and from that point on fewer are likely to come over without permission. It will never be eliminated, but it will be reduced for a while.  That's the good news.

The bad news is, it's going to be a crap shoot between who gets deported and who has to stay.

Hey guys! The government can do ANYTHING democrats want to get done. Also, the government can't get done anything that Republicans want to get done. -Mikesez

That's not at all what I said.
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It's what you say over and over.
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(This post was last modified: 08-29-2024, 10:18 AM by mikesez. Edited 2 times in total.)

(08-29-2024, 09:01 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: It's what you say over and over.

There are certain things the government does pretty reliably - Taking money, distributing money, blowing stuff up from the air, building roads, culverts, ports, and bridges. Creating rules for use of the RF spectrum. Distributing food, medicine, and electricity to poor and rural areas.

There are other things it does just OK, that we wish it could do better - Auditing vendors. Solving crimes and prosecuting criminals. Building residential properties. Guarding the border. Cleaning up from environmental disasters.

And then there are things it's terrible at - maintaining residential housing. Prosecuting bribery and fraud. Catching drug dealers.  Catching human traffickers. Fighting insurgents on the ground. Distributing doctors, teachers, and dentists to poor and rural areas.

None of this is partisan.  It's just how things have gone in my lifetime.
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