That's not new, people have always feared technology replacing their work. The Cotton Gin radically changed our society forever. So did the automobile. So did the telephone, radio, television, computer...things always advance...people always adapt.

This in spades.  If my job currently was spending most my time updating excel templates, coding simple reports or speaking with people on the phone solving mundane issues I would be looking for something else I like to do, It will make companies more productive with the labor they currently have.

While I understand that it's nothing new, it feels like it presents the opportunity as you said, to eliminate a lot of mundane work, that's my concern. 

There's a good chunk of people now that are good enough at their jobs to where in a 8 - 9 hour day at your desk, you're probably done within half that time just fooling around. On the flipside, there's also people that go non-stop, back-to-back all day with tasks that, while boring and mundane, pay the bills for them. 

It'll make companies more productive with "some" of the labor they currently have while being able to layoff a massive chunk of folks more than likely. I work in the railroad industry and trucking industry. Some of our systems are ancient, TMS and TL2000 for example.

If the company ever decides to implement AI, they could easily cut about 50% of the work my department is required to do with a clever implementation that auto arrives, departs and builds out hazardous information. A lot what we do now has become "self serving" for our customer base with our web portal.

Where they can do their own tracking and tracing, billing, etc. 

It's just something to watch out for in my opinion.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

This in spades.  If my job currently was spending most my time updating excel templates, coding simple reports or speaking with people on the phone solving mundane issues I would be looking for something else I like to do, It will make companies more productive with the labor they currently have.

While I understand that it's nothing new, it feels like it presents the opportunity as you said, to eliminate a lot of mundane work, that's my concern. 

There's a good chunk of people now that are good enough at their jobs to where in a 8 - 9 hour day at your desk, you're probably done within half that time just fooling around. On the flipside, there's also people that go non-stop, back-to-back all day with tasks that, while boring and mundane, pay the bills for them. 

It'll make companies more productive with "some" of the labor they currently have while being able to layoff a massive chunk of folks more than likely. I work in the railroad industry and trucking industry. Some of our systems are ancient, TMS and TL2000 for example.

If the company ever decides to implement AI, they could easily cut about 50% of the work my department is required to do with a clever implementation that auto arrives, departs and builds out hazardous information. A lot what we do now has become "self serving" for our customer base with our web portal.

Where they can do their own tracking and tracing, billing, etc. 

It's just something to watch out for in my opinion.

Yea, One of the operations I managed was one of the Busch yards largest users and actually know the portal well. That is until CSX told us to truck our product or pay 20% more, which we gladly did, turned out to be a huge cost savings over the existing rates. Problem is if they do not implement and competitors do, they will be reduced as a business.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

Heh. You guys are so wrong. I use AI all the time. It's amazing. It will take our jobs. There is no reason to pay someone to do something AI can do cheaper and faster. The future will be controlled by those who can influence the machine. There's a reason you see Apple and Microsoft coming together.

My bigger fear is how it will be used by the elite to manipulate the masses. I've thought about writing a fiction book about it.

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Heh. You guys are so wrong. I use AI all the time. It's amazing. It will take our jobs. There is no reason to pay someone to do something AI can do cheaper and faster. The future will be controlled by those who can influence the machine. There's a reason you see Apple and Microsoft coming together.

My bigger fear is how it will be used by the elite to manipulate the masses. I've thought about writing a fiction book about it.

Exactly. You should also go for it. With the book.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Yet you obsess about "the orange man" (your own words) who doesn't give a single [BLEEP] about you..

What does that say about you?

He gives a [BLEEP] about our country. Which is enough for me and a hell of a lot more than I can say for you libtards.

LOL yea sure he does. Only thing he cares about is money, power and himself.

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I was into that stuff when it was new.  I find it unlistenable now. That along with Korn.

I get into a ton of different genres but I'll revisit a lot of these songs from time to time at the gym. After seeing Tool live now three times over the past six years, pretty much over it. 

Although, "Pushit", that live version from the Salival album? I consider that one of the top ten songs of all time. It's fantastic. Saw Korn live once a few years ago at Rockville. They were pretty fun.

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Humor is much more important than this political [BLEEP].

Do you mean Kamala?

Glad you found some music you like.  

I still like some Tool songs, mostly the earlier, shorter ones that were on the radio at the time.
I kinda put later Tool stuff and later Radiohead stuff in the same category, they lost focus and their stuff just kinda droned on for too long.  Both bands that started out strong around the same time then lost their touch.  For a while the music nerds kept praising them as "ground breaking" and "so artistic" but eventually people realized there really wasn't much actually going on.

Oddly Taylor Swift seems to be going through the same thing now.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

I get into a ton of different genres but I'll revisit a lot of these songs from time to time at the gym. After seeing Tool live now three times over the past six years, pretty much over it. 

Although, "Pushit", that live version from the Salival album? I consider that one of the top ten songs of all time. It's fantastic. Saw Korn live once a few years ago at Rockville. They were pretty fun.

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Do you mean Kamala?

Glad you found some music you like.  

I still like some Tool songs, mostly the earlier, shorter ones that were on the radio at the time.
I kinda put later Tool stuff and later Radiohead stuff in the same category, they lost focus and their stuff just kinda droned on for too long.  Both bands that started out strong around the same time then lost their touch.  For a while the music nerds kept praising them as "ground breaking" and "so artistic" but eventually people realized there really wasn't much actually going on.

Oddly Taylor Swift seems to be going through the same thing now.

Yep. I agree with this. Wasn't a big fan of any of the newer stuff with Tool and Radiohead. Once you get past maybe their third and fourth albums. It just drones out.

10,000 days is a good album though. I can appreciate Jambi and Right In Two. His two part song for his Mom are touching, but, very long. Once you hear it once or twice it's hard to go back.

As far as Swift? Never cared for her music really. I can appreciate her willingness to cross genre's, but, it's the same themes over and over again.



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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Glad you found some music you like.  

I still like some Tool songs, mostly the earlier, shorter ones that were on the radio at the time.
I kinda put later Tool stuff and later Radiohead stuff in the same category, they lost focus and their stuff just kinda droned on for too long.  Both bands that started out strong around the same time then lost their touch.  For a while the music nerds kept praising them as "ground breaking" and "so artistic" but eventually people realized there really wasn't much actually going on.

Oddly Taylor Swift seems to be going through the same thing now.

Yep. I agree with this. Wasn't a big fan of any of the newer stuff with Tool and Radiohead. Once you get past maybe their third and fourth albums. It just drones out.

10,000 days is a good album though. I can appreciate Jambi and Right In Two. His two part song for his Mom are touching, but, very long. Once you hear it once or twice it's hard to go back.

As far as Swift? Never cared for her music really. I can appreciate her willingness to cross genre's, but, it's the same themes over and over again.



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Albums like Red and 1989 had surprises and each track brought a different vibe. 
Her last three albums, every track sounds the same.
She was never my favorite singer but I found her stuff enjoyable and interesting for a while and now I don't.
I wouldn't say anything about it if the music critics and social media influencers were calling her out for it but they aren't.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

AI is doing this now...

https://youtu.be/GIqqRQNlGqc?si=Kdv0-jalmD-GRdjN

https://youtu.be/PTMnrxigMfo?si=qaOZO6W9onicWbaF

https://youtu.be/9Gnu9u2Owms?si=gIEPRUXvFrBIQqNg

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Those are novel things, but the way this stuff has improved in this short of time is nothing short of amazing. There are studies that show, in most cases, that people prefer to deal with AI than real human beings.

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AI is doing this now...

https://youtu.be/GIqqRQNlGqc?si=Kdv0-jalmD-GRdjN

https://youtu.be/PTMnrxigMfo?si=qaOZO6W9onicWbaF

https://youtu.be/9Gnu9u2Owms?si=gIEPRUXvFrBIQqNg

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Damn that [BLEEP] is trash.. AI will always be garbage. Here's some real stuff from a real artist.

And yes this is Slipknot's main vocals (Corey Taylor) and one of their songs. Great song with meaning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBK6xymmKHM

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AI is doing this now...

https://youtu.be/GIqqRQNlGqc?si=Kdv0-jalmD-GRdjN

https://youtu.be/PTMnrxigMfo?si=qaOZO6W9onicWbaF

https://youtu.be/9Gnu9u2Owms?si=gIEPRUXvFrBIQqNg

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Damn that [BLEEP] is trash.. AI will always be garbage. Here's some real stuff from a real artist.

And yes this is Slipknot's main vocals (Corey Taylor) and one of their songs. Great song with meaning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBK6xymmKHM

His cover of Wicked Game is great. 

AI is trash... for now. It's not the art or music in and of itself that concerns me, nor the novelty stuff, it's the fact that it's even capable of this to begin with this early that concerns me. In conjunction with facial mapping and overlapping, along with voice copying. This is just the infancy stages of it all.

Before we had cellphone's, we had phonebooth's. Before the electric oven, it was just wood and fire, etc. Once this type of technology is fully implemented with robotics, something else that's been getting better and better. Where do you draw the line? How long before we have wars being fought this way, or, police being handled with automaton's and AI?

It's just creepy.

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Those are novel things, but the way this stuff has improved in this short of time is nothing short of amazing. There are studies that show, in most cases, that people prefer to deal with AI than real human beings.

That last bit feels like it was apart of modern human conditioning. The irony of social media and instant gratification buttons to click. We're becoming less human and sympathetic and more animatronic and docile. Sad really.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Heh. You guys are so wrong. I use AI all the time. It's amazing. It will take our jobs. There is no reason to pay someone to do something AI can do cheaper and faster. The future will be controlled by those who can influence the machine. There's a reason you see Apple and Microsoft coming together.

My bigger fear is how it will be used by the elite to manipulate the masses. I've thought about writing a fiction book about it.

How do you use AI?

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This thread with a bunch of guys talking about Artificial Insemination is creeping me out.

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This thread with a bunch of guys talking about Artificial Insemination is creeping me out.

Truly a "Hot Take" thread now.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Heh. You guys are so wrong. I use AI all the time. It's amazing. It will take our jobs. There is no reason to pay someone to do something AI can do cheaper and faster. The future will be controlled by those who can influence the machine. There's a reason you see Apple and Microsoft coming together.

My bigger fear is how it will be used by the elite to manipulate the masses. I've thought about writing a fiction book about it.

How do you use AI?

I use AI as a personal assistant. Below is a variety of examples of how I use it (but I use it all day, every day).

I take a 300-page omnibus bill and input it into AI. I can have it rewrite it, bullet point it and ask it whatever questions I want about the bill in its original form. It takes me about 20 minutes to understand something that would have taken me hours (sometimes it takes longer, since I have to chop the bill up into sections). 

Right now, I'm taking a class. I took a picture of my worksheet and uploaded the study we were learning about, and it instantly filled in all of the information (the worksheet was to prepare for a speech). That saved me another hour. 

I can literally speak to my AI assistant. I was talking to it about how I wanted to arrange a paper I was working on the other day. I basically chatted with it back and forth, telling it what concepts I wanted to lead with and where I wanted to emphasize different points. Then I write the sections I think are personalized, and have it fill in the rest of the outline (where it's mostly just facts), in APA format. It does the tedious stuff way better than I can ever do it.

I've used it to keep track of my calories for dieting. I just tell it what I'm eating and the approximate amount, and it tells me my calorie intake for the meal, keeps track of it throughout the day, and keeps a running total for the week. 

I used it to literally create a business model for a company. My friend wanted help expanding his operations, but didn't know how, so I told it what I was wanting to do, asked it which part we should start with, then started uploading information. In about a week, I had a full business plan, marketing strategy, benchmarks, etc. That was easily a month's worth of work. The CEO said it was the best work he's ever seen (my friend didn't tell him it was AI). 

I've used AI to help me develop my theories about consciousness (this one's a bit out there), but it's been extremely helpful in pulling up competing theories, breaking down what makes them different and helping me explore what makes mine novel. It's amazing to have a tool that can do that. Before AI, I would have spent hour and hours out there trying to read and understand these different concepts. 

I've even used it on this board a few times. I will give it the background of the argument we are having, upload the post to which I am responding, then I have it rewrite my original post in a way that makes more sense. Now, understand this point: I actually write the response myself first, then I will tell it you guys aren't getting the concept. Then I take that post and make sure to add the appropriate number of insults. What's interesting (and the reason I don't like to use it), is that you guys are WAY more receptive when it writes a response for me. Now, this takes longer on the front end, but it probably saves me hours in arguing with Mikey. 

You guys are looking at these novel things it can't do yet (like make music or music videos) and missing the fact that this is a language model. It absolutely excels at understanding human language in a way that is vastly superior to us, which is why people prefer it. The other thing to consider, is this thing is an infant. These gains have really only been over the last 3 years. Once it clicked, these models are progressing at an absolutely astonishing rate. Anyone who is not attempting to learn it is going to be left in the dust. As soon as this thing figures how to code, you are going to be able to make literally anything you want in virtual reality, just by speaking to it. It's insane. 

The single greatest threat from AI (aside from the literal inability to be human), is the way it's going to be used to herd us like sheep. In 2 years, Mikey's main argument is going to be "Well, AI says x, so that's obviously true," even though it already admits it's limited by its programming. Companies are going to pay for AI to redirect people to their products and ignore healthy and free alternatives. It's going to shape political opinions. It's going to teach our children. It's going to track our every move. 

We're so worried it's going to destroy the world in a nuclear Armageddon, we're not even talking about how it's going to turn us into mindless drones for corporate hacks.

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Oh and emails. I use it for every email that is more than 3 paragraphs.

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How do you use AI?

I use AI as a personal assistant. Below is a variety of examples of how I use it (but I use it all day, every day).

I take a 300-page omnibus bill and input it into AI. I can have it rewrite it, bullet point it and ask it whatever questions I want about the bill in its original form. It takes me about 20 minutes to understand something that would have taken me hours (sometimes it takes longer, since I have to chop the bill up into sections). 

Right now, I'm taking a class. I took a picture of my worksheet and uploaded the study we were learning about, and it instantly filled in all of the information (the worksheet was to prepare for a speech). That saved me another hour. 

I can literally speak to my AI assistant. I was talking to it about how I wanted to arrange a paper I was working on the other day. I basically chatted with it back and forth, telling it what concepts I wanted to lead with and where I wanted to emphasize different points. Then I write the sections I think are personalized, and have it fill in the rest of the outline (where it's mostly just facts), in APA format. It does the tedious stuff way better than I can ever do it.

I've used it to keep track of my calories for dieting. I just tell it what I'm eating and the approximate amount, and it tells me my calorie intake for the meal, keeps track of it throughout the day, and keeps a running total for the week. 

I used it to literally create a business model for a company. My friend wanted help expanding his operations, but didn't know how, so I told it what I was wanting to do, asked it which part we should start with, then started uploading information. In about a week, I had a full business plan, marketing strategy, benchmarks, etc. That was easily a month's worth of work. The CEO said it was the best work he's ever seen (my friend didn't tell him it was AI). 

I've used AI to help me develop my theories about consciousness (this one's a bit out there), but it's been extremely helpful in pulling up competing theories, breaking down what makes them different and helping me explore what makes mine novel. It's amazing to have a tool that can do that. Before AI, I would have spent hour and hours out there trying to read and understand these different concepts. 

I've even used it on this board a few times. I will give it the background of the argument we are having, upload the post to which I am responding, then I have it rewrite my original post in a way that makes more sense. Now, understand this point: I actually write the response myself first, then I will tell it you guys aren't getting the concept. Then I take that post and make sure to add the appropriate number of insults. What's interesting (and the reason I don't like to use it), is that you guys are WAY more receptive when it writes a response for me. Now, this takes longer on the front end, but it probably saves me hours in arguing with Mikey. 

You guys are looking at these novel things it can't do yet (like make music or music videos) and missing the fact that this is a language model. It absolutely excels at understanding human language in a way that is vastly superior to us, which is why people prefer it. The other thing to consider, is this thing is an infant. These gains have really only been over the last 3 years. Once it clicked, these models are progressing at an absolutely astonishing rate. Anyone who is not attempting to learn it is going to be left in the dust. As soon as this thing figures how to code, you are going to be able to make literally anything you want in virtual reality, just by speaking to it. It's insane. 

The single greatest threat from AI (aside from the literal inability to be human), is the way it's going to be used to herd us like sheep. In 2 years, Mikey's main argument is going to be "Well, AI says x, so that's obviously true," even though it already admits it's limited by its programming. Companies are going to pay for AI to redirect people to their products and ignore healthy and free alternatives. It's going to shape political opinions. It's going to teach our children. It's going to track our every move. 

We're so worried it's going to destroy the world in a nuclear Armageddon, we're not even talking about how it's going to turn us into mindless drones for corporate hacks.

What is your theory in regard to consciousness?  

I've been wondering about that subject myself.

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"AI, where is Lucky2Last?"

"Lucky2Last sleeps with the fishes. This is my account now. Hopefully you have no problem with that. If so, there is plenty of room in the fish tank."

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I use AI as a personal assistant. Below is a variety of examples of how I use it (but I use it all day, every day).

I take a 300-page omnibus bill and input it into AI. I can have it rewrite it, bullet point it and ask it whatever questions I want about the bill in its original form. It takes me about 20 minutes to understand something that would have taken me hours (sometimes it takes longer, since I have to chop the bill up into sections). 

Right now, I'm taking a class. I took a picture of my worksheet and uploaded the study we were learning about, and it instantly filled in all of the information (the worksheet was to prepare for a speech). That saved me another hour. 

I can literally speak to my AI assistant. I was talking to it about how I wanted to arrange a paper I was working on the other day. I basically chatted with it back and forth, telling it what concepts I wanted to lead with and where I wanted to emphasize different points. Then I write the sections I think are personalized, and have it fill in the rest of the outline (where it's mostly just facts), in APA format. It does the tedious stuff way better than I can ever do it.

I've used it to keep track of my calories for dieting. I just tell it what I'm eating and the approximate amount, and it tells me my calorie intake for the meal, keeps track of it throughout the day, and keeps a running total for the week. 

I used it to literally create a business model for a company. My friend wanted help expanding his operations, but didn't know how, so I told it what I was wanting to do, asked it which part we should start with, then started uploading information. In about a week, I had a full business plan, marketing strategy, benchmarks, etc. That was easily a month's worth of work. The CEO said it was the best work he's ever seen (my friend didn't tell him it was AI). 

I've used AI to help me develop my theories about consciousness (this one's a bit out there), but it's been extremely helpful in pulling up competing theories, breaking down what makes them different and helping me explore what makes mine novel. It's amazing to have a tool that can do that. Before AI, I would have spent hour and hours out there trying to read and understand these different concepts. 

I've even used it on this board a few times. I will give it the background of the argument we are having, upload the post to which I am responding, then I have it rewrite my original post in a way that makes more sense. Now, understand this point: I actually write the response myself first, then I will tell it you guys aren't getting the concept. Then I take that post and make sure to add the appropriate number of insults. What's interesting (and the reason I don't like to use it), is that you guys are WAY more receptive when it writes a response for me. Now, this takes longer on the front end, but it probably saves me hours in arguing with Mikey. 

You guys are looking at these novel things it can't do yet (like make music or music videos) and missing the fact that this is a language model. It absolutely excels at understanding human language in a way that is vastly superior to us, which is why people prefer it. The other thing to consider, is this thing is an infant. These gains have really only been over the last 3 years. Once it clicked, these models are progressing at an absolutely astonishing rate. Anyone who is not attempting to learn it is going to be left in the dust. As soon as this thing figures how to code, you are going to be able to make literally anything you want in virtual reality, just by speaking to it. It's insane. 

The single greatest threat from AI (aside from the literal inability to be human), is the way it's going to be used to herd us like sheep. In 2 years, Mikey's main argument is going to be "Well, AI says x, so that's obviously true," even though it already admits it's limited by its programming. Companies are going to pay for AI to redirect people to their products and ignore healthy and free alternatives. It's going to shape political opinions. It's going to teach our children. It's going to track our every move. 

We're so worried it's going to destroy the world in a nuclear Armageddon, we're not even talking about how it's going to turn us into mindless drones for corporate hacks.

What is your theory in regard to consciousness?  

I've been wondering about that subject myself.

I've never understood why anyone wants to conduct a deep examination of consciousness. It's a never-ending quest for answers which does nothing but consume precious time by presenting a continuous litany of more questions. 

"What did you do with your life?" 

"I spent it constantly questioning who and why I am." 

Obviously, I have not one spiritual bone in my body. It's a waste of time.

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