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Secret Service may have been compromised by left wing liberal politics.

#1

I skipped most of the kids comments but watched the meat and potato interview parts.  This is an ex secret service agent testifying.  This is absolutely insane and shows you how far the deep state goes. Unreal that nobody was fired or really held responsible.


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#2

You forgot the "T" before the word wink..
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#3

Please move into assassination thread.
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#4

The Secret Service was compromised/set up as is today during the Trump Administration when he removed their top official and installed his Yes Man. Actually a few of Trump's detail were simply local security during this fake assacination attempt (the one female that I know of for sure).

NH3...
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(09-04-2024, 07:54 AM)NH3 Wrote: The Secret Service was compromised/set up as is today during the Trump Administration when he removed their top official and installed his Yes Man. Actually a few of Trump's detail were simply local security during this fake assacination attempt (the one female that I know of for sure).

NH3...

There we go, that's the way to show them!
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(09-04-2024, 07:54 AM)NH3 Wrote: The Secret Service was compromised/set up as is today during the Trump Administration when he removed their top official and installed his Yes Man. Actually a few of Trump's detail were simply local security during this fake assacination attempt (the one female that I know of for sure).

NH3...

How do you get your phone/computer to not autocorrect?  If I try to spell assassination as you do, jesus takes the wheel for me.
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(09-04-2024, 03:33 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(09-04-2024, 07:54 AM)NH3 Wrote: The Secret Service was compromised/set up as is today during the Trump Administration when he removed their top official and installed his Yes Man. Actually a few of Trump's detail were simply local security during this fake assacination attempt (the one female that I know of for sure).

NH3...

How do you get your phone/computer to not autocorrect?  If I try to spell assassination as you do, jesus takes the wheel for me.

I bet he sleeps with a helmet on..
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(09-04-2024, 05:08 PM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(09-04-2024, 03:33 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: How do you get your phone/computer to not autocorrect?  If I try to spell assassination as you do, jesus takes the wheel for me.

I bet he sleeps with a helmet on..

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#9

I see the FBI had another one of their "known to us" shooters activate today. Guess Trump's comments about releasing Epstein's list struck a nerve.
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(09-04-2024, 09:49 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: I see the FBI had another one of their "known to us" shooters activate today. Guess Trump's comments about releasing Epstein's list struck a nerve.

“The father stated he had hunting guns in the house, but the subject did not have
unsupervised access to them,” the statement said. “The subject denied making the threats online.”"

So what should they have done?
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(09-04-2024, 10:38 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(09-04-2024, 09:49 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: I see the FBI had another one of their "known to us" shooters activate today. Guess Trump's comments about releasing Epstein's list struck a nerve.

“The father stated he had hunting guns in the house, but the subject did not have
unsupervised access to them,” the statement said. “The subject denied making the threats online.”"

So what should they have done?
They could have thrown him in lockup for a few years and then got him on a misdemeanor ..... no can't do that in this case because they need someone to groom.

The FBI tracked him down, so they had to know he posted it. The school and teachers should all know to be on the lookout. Remove him from the situation. The FBI and school should also address the people that were causing the threats, they supposedly all have zero tolerance bullying stuff. There should have been follow-ups as the kid skipped school a ton and most likely had a terrible family situation.

The school got a call that they were going to be targeted.

A lot of this isn't fixable with the current controls in place. Classes/schools are too large for anyone to know if something is happening with individual kids. There's no fear of any punishment from the school. There's no punishment at home for a lot of the kids. Parents work too much, etc.


The kid immediately gave up when the resource officer got there. He realized what he had done or it was a final cry for help. He made threats previously, you do that to get attention. He's skipping school. Everything is saying there is a problem with this kid and yet everyone refuses to do anything. It wouldn't shock me if the dad was abusing him or some other thing happening at home.

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(This post was last modified: 09-05-2024, 06:57 AM by Caldrac.)

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(09-05-2024, 06:56 AM)Caldrac Wrote: Behold a pale horse...

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Those antidepressants are dangerous.. Sometimes more dangerous than the psychological disorder.
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(09-05-2024, 02:02 AM)p_rushing Wrote:
(09-04-2024, 10:38 PM)mikesez Wrote: “The father stated he had hunting guns in the house, but the subject did not have
unsupervised access to them,” the statement said. “The subject denied making the threats online.”"

So what should they have done?
They could have thrown him in lockup for a few years and then got him on a misdemeanor  ..... no can't do that in this case because they need someone to groom.

The FBI tracked him down, so they had to know he posted it. The school and teachers should all know to be on the lookout. Remove him from the situation. The FBI and school should also address the people that were causing the threats, they supposedly all have zero tolerance bullying stuff. There should have been follow-ups as the kid skipped school a ton and most likely had a terrible family situation.

The school got a call that they were going to be targeted.

A lot of this isn't fixable with the current controls in place. Classes/schools are too large for anyone to know if something is happening with individual kids. There's no fear of any punishment from the school. There's no punishment at home for a lot of the kids. Parents work too much, etc.


The kid immediately gave up when the resource officer got there. He realized what he had done or it was a final cry for help. He made threats previously, you do that to get attention. He's skipping school. Everything is saying there is a problem with this kid and yet everyone refuses to do anything. It wouldn't shock me if the dad was abusing him or some other thing happening at home.

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If they were able to prove he had made the threats they would have arrested him.
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(09-05-2024, 08:13 AM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(09-05-2024, 06:56 AM)Caldrac Wrote: Behold a pale horse...

Published in 1991.
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Those antidepressants are dangerous.. Sometimes more dangerous than the psychological disorder.

I agree. I have seen it firsthand. You also have to consider that, most people in that position to begin with were previously self medicating to some extent, and, then fall into a habit of mixing their antidepressant's with alcohol or other drugs. My Mom was a [BLEEP] nightmare at one point in time during my childhood when she mixed and matched. 

My Dad loves guns, got rid of them and sold them after her episode's because he didn't want to chance it. One time she managed to lock herself in her closet, went [BLEEP] berserk and bloodied her hands and knuckles trying to punch her way out of there. She was hitting everything except the door. 

Doctor's can give out anything they need to give you, however, they're not there to hold your hand or hold you accountable and cannot prevent abuse. I can only imagine the effects it has on younger, developing brains. Especially in today's era of instant gratification, social media attention seekers and cyberbullying. 

People that think it's some conspiracy that the CIA would have a program doing exactly that with ill intent also baffles me. The CIA has long since been exposed for Project Monarch, Project Mockingbird, the MK Ultra program, etc. 

People laugh off "Sleeper Cells" all the time as well. It's very possible they exist amongst us. If you can beat, torture and batter somebody at the right age? You literally split their mind into two and have split personalities to work with at your disposal.
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(09-05-2024, 08:44 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(09-05-2024, 02:02 AM)p_rushing Wrote: They could have thrown him in lockup for a few years and then got him on a misdemeanor  ..... no can't do that in this case because they need someone to groom.

The FBI tracked him down, so they had to know he posted it. The school and teachers should all know to be on the lookout. Remove him from the situation. The FBI and school should also address the people that were causing the threats, they supposedly all have zero tolerance bullying stuff. There should have been follow-ups as the kid skipped school a ton and most likely had a terrible family situation.

The school got a call that they were going to be targeted.

A lot of this isn't fixable with the current controls in place. Classes/schools are too large for anyone to know if something is happening with individual kids. There's no fear of any punishment from the school. There's no punishment at home for a lot of the kids. Parents work too much, etc.


The kid immediately gave up when the resource officer got there. He realized what he had done or it was a final cry for help. He made threats previously, you do that to get attention. He's skipping school. Everything is saying there is a problem with this kid and yet everyone refuses to do anything. It wouldn't shock me if the dad was abusing him or some other thing happening at home.

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If they were able to prove he had made the threats they would have arrested him.
The cops can't prove most things unless they were there and immediately arrested you. They had enough data to identify them but they couldn't see who was on the device.

There were plenty of signs the kid had problems but no one followed up and the parent(s) are absent if he keeps skipping school.

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(This post was last modified: 09-05-2024, 12:46 PM by Caldrac. Edited 1 time in total.)

Police charge 14 year-old in school threats case.

Officials were made aware of possible threats circulating over social media late Wednesday night. Law enforcement and school officials immediately began investigating. Given the recent tragedy in neighboring Barrow County, many jurisdictions have been dealing with hoax or false information being passed around.

Investigators were able to determine that in one case, a 14 year-old student, did cause public alarm by going to social media and referencing threats and actions. The juvenile has been taken into custody and charged in the case. The juvenile is currently being held in RYDC on terroristic threat and disrupting operation of a public school charges.

Chief Jay Parrish stated “as law enforcement, our primary goal is to ensure the safety and wellbeing of our students, faculty and staff. Our hearts are broken surrounding the heinous attack at Apalachee High School in our neighboring community. Hoax or not, we will actively investigate every threat or possible action to any school or student. Likewise, you should expect the full force of the Gainesville Police Department and our law enforcement partners to take necessary actions to protect our schools.”

This case was a collaborative effort by the Gainesville Police Department, Hall County Sheriff’s Office and Gainesville City Schools.

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They are charging the dad with 2nd degree murder, manslaughter, and child endangerment. He admits he bought the gun as a gift.

The family is a mess. Mother is supposedly in jail but don't know if that is true or not. The aunt says the kid was crying out for help and has faced abuse his own life. CPS has been involved with the family. The aunt helped get him enrolled back in school but lives out of state.

It's looking more and more like I read this one correctly and the kid was trying to get some adult to step in and help him. CPS didn't do it. The police interview was with dad there so doubt he would be open. Call to the school to warn them. Stopping immediately when the cop gets there. All the actions point to a terrible home life and most likely verbal abuse and potentially physical abuse.

The charging the dad is crossing lines I doubt most people will be willing to do. If you can prove negligence, you could charge as an accessory but not sure how they are going to charge him with murder or child endangerment. Liberals may think it's good to charge him but they probably won't when the same precedent starts applying to kids stealing, drunk driving and other driving accidents, and the gang shootings, etc.

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(09-06-2024, 01:00 AM)p_rushing Wrote: They are charging the dad with 2nd degree murder, manslaughter, and child endangerment. He admits he bought the gun as a gift.

The family is a mess. Mother is supposedly in jail but don't know if that is true or not. The aunt says the kid was crying out for help and has faced abuse his own life. CPS has been involved with the family. The aunt helped get him enrolled back in school but lives out of state.

It's looking more and more like I read this one correctly and the kid was trying to get some adult to step in and help him. CPS didn't do it. The police interview was with dad there so doubt he would be open. Call to the school to warn them. Stopping immediately when the cop gets there. All the actions point to a terrible home life and most likely verbal abuse and potentially physical abuse.

The charging the dad is crossing lines I doubt most people will be willing to do. If you can prove negligence, you could charge as an accessory but not sure how they are going to charge him with murder or child endangerment. Liberals may think it's good to charge him but they probably won't when the same precedent starts applying to kids stealing, drunk driving and other driving accidents, and the gang shootings, etc.

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It's a slippery slope for sure. Sounds like plenty of warning signs were there and this could have been prevented had somebody with more than one or two brain cells actually stepped up and took action.

I understand that parents can buy gifts for their children. But, a gun at 14? That's one hell of a gift. Still, the Dad should have had it locked up tighter than Ft. Knox. Especially if the abuse was present within the household.

My Dad spent $400 - $600 on really nice fishing rods and reels for me and my brothers growing up, a piece, and he took care of them well into our early adulthood until he knew we could handle them at home when we were done using them for the day or on weekends fishing around JAX.

My Dad has a Saw Zaw 40+ years old that he still uses today. It's just people really. If you take care of your family, your tools and possessions? And you raise your kids right with responsibility and exercise good judgement?

Dumb [BLEEP] like this wouldn't happen.

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My son has been gifted with half a dozen fishing poles, a cast net, a Savage.22 bolt action, a Ruger 10-22, a Ruger .22 revolver, and a Glock 44.

He's 10 and we're country folk.

His guns live in my vault that he has no way to access (biometrics) and we shoot them together whenever we can. All of my kids have seen, handled, and learned about guns and gun safety since they were elementary school age. It's a way of life and not one of my family going back generations has ever shot a single person outside of military service or one case of self defense in 1991 (my uncle was jumped while delivering bread in the very early morning).

Guns are tools that have a legitimate use for both daily life and in times of crisis. The issue is not the guns, it's the fathers who aren't engaged with their children instilling good habits, respect for life, and duty to their neighbors and community that is the problem. It's the Society of Big Government Dependence that's forced fathers out of their homes, nurtured a generation of men who won't accept their duty as fathers, and incentivized a generation of women to single motherhood over a healthy two parent home. It's a cultural problem and few have any interest in the actual fix because that fix takes away much of their power.
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