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60 pages deep into this thread and I still have not received an answer on why Harris is a better candidate than Donal trump outside of SHE IS NOT TRUMP.

On social media, I have observed that most blue voters fall into 3 categories:
1. The race hustlers- Some will vote for her simply because she is a black woman. They do not care about her politics they only care she is a "woman of color."
2. The brainwashed blue blood liberal - This is not your daddy's democratic party but they were born and raised blue no matter who. Some would vote for a rock over Donald Trump.
3. The Extreme left liberal - They are all about Pronouns, sex changes, non binary nonsense, and are overall mentally disturbed people.
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(09-05-2024, 12:14 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: 60 pages deep into this thread and I still have not received an answer on why Harris is a better candidate than Donal trump outside of SHE IS NOT TRUMP.

On social media, I have observed that most blue voters fall into 3 categories:
1. The race hustlers- Some will vote for her simply because she is a black woman. They do not care about her politics they only care she is a "woman of color."
2. The brainwashed blue blood liberal - This is not your daddy's democratic party but they were born and raised blue no matter who. Some would vote for a rock over Donald Trump.
3. The Extreme left liberal - They are all about Pronouns, sex changes, non binary nonsense, and are overall mentally disturbed people.

I explain all of the different ways I think Trump is not qualified for another term.
You ignore all of it.
All you hear is "she is not Trump".
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(09-05-2024, 12:22 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(09-05-2024, 12:14 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: 60 pages deep into this thread and I still have not received an answer on why Harris is a better candidate than Donal trump outside of SHE IS NOT TRUMP.

On social media, I have observed that most blue voters fall into 3 categories:
1. The race hustlers- Some will vote for her simply because she is a black woman. They do not care about her politics they only care she is a "woman of color."
2. The brainwashed blue blood liberal - This is not your daddy's democratic party but they were born and raised blue no matter who. Some would vote for a rock over Donald Trump.
3. The Extreme left liberal - They are all about Pronouns, sex changes, non binary nonsense, and are overall mentally disturbed people.

I explain all of the different ways I think Trump is not qualified for another term.
You ignore all of it.
All you hear is "she is not Trump".

I don't think anyone gives a [BLEEP] what you say anymore. Like myself, they've all seen your bull [BLEEP], quit reading it and started to ignore. It is what it is.
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(07-25-2024, 03:11 AM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: I am an independent who is squarely in the Republican corner this election because they much more align with my values.  So can we talk about the great accomplishments that Harris has done?  Can we discuss her policies and what she  plans to do to fix the economy and the border.  I saw the videos where she was in charge of the border but couldn't bother to visit it. So the Democrats are going all in on Harris. Lets not talk about Trump here because thats what every Democratic argument turns into.  So what does Harris bring to the table and what will 4 years look like with her running the country.  From the outside she looks as dumb as a bag of rocks but to get where she is she has to have some level of intelligence.  Sell me on her!

(09-05-2024, 12:22 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(09-05-2024, 12:14 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: 60 pages deep into this thread and I still have not received an answer on why Harris is a better candidate than Donal trump outside of SHE IS NOT TRUMP.

On social media, I have observed that most blue voters fall into 3 categories:
1. The race hustlers- Some will vote for her simply because she is a black woman. They do not care about her politics they only care she is a "woman of color."
2. The brainwashed blue blood liberal - This is not your daddy's democratic party but they were born and raised blue no matter who. Some would vote for a rock over Donald Trump.
3. The Extreme left liberal - They are all about Pronouns, sex changes, non binary nonsense, and are overall mentally disturbed people.

I explain all of the different ways I think Trump is not qualified for another term.
You ignore all of it.
All you hear is "she is not Trump".

In the original post, OG-JAGFAN specifically requested no discussion about Trump, so let's focus on Harris.

Do you believe she is qualified to be President?
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(09-05-2024, 12:22 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(09-05-2024, 12:14 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: 60 pages deep into this thread and I still have not received an answer on why Harris is a better candidate than Donal trump outside of SHE IS NOT TRUMP.

On social media, I have observed that most blue voters fall into 3 categories:
1. The race hustlers- Some will vote for her simply because she is a black woman. They do not care about her politics they only care she is a "woman of color."
2. The brainwashed blue blood liberal - This is not your daddy's democratic party but they were born and raised blue no matter who. Some would vote for a rock over Donald Trump.
3. The Extreme left liberal - They are all about Pronouns, sex changes, non binary nonsense, and are overall mentally disturbed people.

I explain all of the different ways I think Trump is not qualified for another term.
You ignore all of it.
All you hear is "she is not Trump".

That wasn't the question though. You could have saved yourself a plethora of droning on about Trump had you simply provided reasons, examples and policies that Harris has to offer as to why she would be worthy of one's vote in November. 

Surely you're capable of doing that. So, why not do that instead? Every candidate has policies and a background that are not so easily agreeable on and some that are. 

For example, there's things I like about Trump and things I don't like about him during this election cycle. Still, the man will have my vote come the day of. 

I cannot say the same for Harris, as, her policies, along with time spent in the office with Biden, they far outweigh anything positive I can find enough in her to make her worthy of my vote. 

Has nothing to do with "She is not Trump", just like I heard back in 2016 when it was "Love trump's hate" and in 2020, "Anyone but him". That, "Anyone but him" mantra, it damn near dragged us into WWIII and it's certainly jeopardized our border, and therefore, our future generation of American citizens that were born here and already have paid their dues or continue to pay their dues.
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SInce Harris is certainly less qualified and a far worse candidate than Trump will you all be voting 3rd party this year?
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(09-05-2024, 12:22 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(09-05-2024, 12:14 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: 60 pages deep into this thread and I still have not received an answer on why Harris is a better candidate than Donal trump outside of SHE IS NOT TRUMP.

On social media, I have observed that most blue voters fall into 3 categories:
1. The race hustlers- Some will vote for her simply because she is a black woman. They do not care about her politics they only care she is a "woman of color."
2. The brainwashed blue blood liberal - This is not your daddy's democratic party but they were born and raised blue no matter who. Some would vote for a rock over Donald Trump.
3. The Extreme left liberal - They are all about Pronouns, sex changes, non binary nonsense, and are overall mentally disturbed people.

I explain all of the different ways I think Trump is not qualified for another term.
You ignore all of it.
All you hear is "she is not Trump".
You have not stated it clearly.  You have not stated why she is better you only stated why Donald is not.  You cannot name her strengths because she has none. Again Mike with you and your party's tired democratic argument, "she isn't Trump"

I also remind you Harris is the same woman who was voted the least popular VP ever a few months ago.
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(09-05-2024, 12:14 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: 60 pages deep into this thread and I still have not received an answer on why Harris is a better candidate than Donal trump outside of SHE IS NOT TRUMP.

On social media, I have observed that most blue voters fall into 3 categories:
1. The race hustlers- Some will vote for her simply because she is a black woman. They do not care about her politics they only care she is a "woman of color."
2. The brainwashed blue blood liberal - This is not your daddy's democratic party but they were born and raised blue no matter who. Some would vote for a rock over Donald Trump.
3. The Extreme left liberal - They are all about Pronouns, sex changes, non binary nonsense, and are overall mentally disturbed people.

You asked Democrats to sell you on Harris.  There aren't any Democrats participating on a regular basis on this message board.  So that's one reason you struck out here.  Maybe if you change your title to "Hurricane!  Sell me on Harris!" He's the only Democrat that I know of that comes around here on a regular basis.  

And then you say, "Sell me on Harris, but don't talk about Trump."  Every election is a choice between usually two candidates.  One has to be compared to the other.  What are her accomplishments?  Vice Presidents don't accomplish much.  Their main job is waiting, like the backup QB.  Stand on the sidelines.  

I'm trying real hard to sell myself on Harris, because she's not Trump, but so far, it's pretty close.  I'm still uncommitted.  You know my feeling about Trump.  I don't need to repeat it.
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(09-05-2024, 01:58 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote:
(09-05-2024, 12:22 PM)mikesez Wrote: I explain all of the different ways I think Trump is not qualified for another term.
You ignore all of it.
All you hear is "she is not Trump".
You have not stated it clearly.  You have not stated why she is better you only stated why Donald is not.  You cannot name her strengths because she has none.  Again Mike with you and your party's tired democratic argument, "she isn't Trump"

I also remind you Harris is the same woman who was voted the least popular VP ever a few months ago.

Kamala Harris has never tried to overturn an election.  
She's called for some dumb stuff, but she's given no indication that she would do that dumb stuff even when Congress and the courts say no.
These two things alone qualify her over and above Trump.
I am qualified over Trump.  If I took the oath of office I would mean it.  He wouldn't.  Every indication is Kamala would mean it.
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(09-05-2024, 02:43 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(09-05-2024, 01:58 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: You have not stated it clearly.  You have not stated why she is better you only stated why Donald is not.  You cannot name her strengths because she has none.  Again Mike with you and your party's tired democratic argument, "she isn't Trump"

I also remind you Harris is the same woman who was voted the least popular VP ever a few months ago.

Kamala Harris has never tried to overturn an election.  
She's called for some dumb stuff, but she's given no indication that she would do that dumb stuff even when Congress and the courts say no.
These two things alone qualify her over and above Trump.
I am qualified over Trump.  If I took the oath of office I would mean it.  He wouldn't.  Every indication is Kamala would mean it.

The only thing you're qualified to do is wear out a brand new pair of jeans while meeting Joe & The Hoe..

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(09-05-2024, 02:43 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(09-05-2024, 01:58 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: You have not stated it clearly.  You have not stated why she is better you only stated why Donald is not.  You cannot name her strengths because she has none.  Again Mike with you and your party's tired democratic argument, "she isn't Trump"

I also remind you Harris is the same woman who was voted the least popular VP ever a few months ago.

Kamala Harris has never tried to overturn an election.  
She's called for some dumb stuff, but she's given no indication that she would do that dumb stuff even when Congress and the courts say no.
These two things alone qualify her over and above Trump.
I am qualified over Trump.  If I took the oath of office I would mean it.  He wouldn't.  Every indication is Kamala would mean it.

Has Kamala Harris ever been in a unique election cycle that encompassed a pandemic and mail-in ballots? Has she ever won previously and actually ran the country during such times? Has she ever been in any position like that? I don't think very many candidates have. Also, do we really believe that Joe Biden was truly the most popular President of all time by count? Moreso than the first female candidate and the first black candidate? 

If she's called for dumb stuff, but, she's given no indication that she would do that dumb stuff, even when Congress and the courts say no. Why bother saying it to begin with, and, what does it mean when she says good stuff and Congress and the courts say no? Would she have the gusto to overturn them? Would you condone it? 

So, by your beliefs, it only takes just those two aspects to qualify someone over a Presidential candidate? The attempt to overturn an election during tumultuous times that had not been seen before at this magnitude, and, actually pushing and challenging Congress and the courts when they say no to certain things, since, you know, Congress and our court system here are oh so star spangled awesome and would NEVER, EVER do something dishonest or disloyal to it's tax payers. 

Interesting.
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Which candidate wants to give Ukraine to the Russians?
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(09-05-2024, 03:03 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
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Which candidate wants to give Ukraine to the Russians?

Oh I get it.. There's no room for you on that horse. Don't be sad, I'm sure you can be the horse next time.
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(09-05-2024, 03:04 PM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(09-05-2024, 03:03 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: Which candidate wants to give Ukraine to the Russians?

Oh I get it.. There's no room for you on that horse. Don't be sad, I'm sure you can be the horse next time.

You really have nothing intelligent to add on any subject, do you?  You just sit in your house and post insults.  That's pretty sad.
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(09-05-2024, 03:14 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(09-05-2024, 03:04 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: Oh I get it.. There's no room for you on that horse. Don't be sad, I'm sure you can be the horse next time.

You really have nothing intelligent to add on any subject, do you?  You just sit in your house and post insults.  That's pretty sad.

It's cathartic and cheaper than therapy.
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(09-05-2024, 03:14 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(09-05-2024, 03:04 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: Oh I get it.. There's no room for you on that horse. Don't be sad, I'm sure you can be the horse next time.

You really have nothing intelligent to add on any subject, do you?  You just sit in your house and post insults.  That's pretty sad.

My ridicule is all you are worth.
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(09-05-2024, 02:55 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(09-05-2024, 02:43 PM)mikesez Wrote: Kamala Harris has never tried to overturn an election.  
She's called for some dumb stuff, but she's given no indication that she would do that dumb stuff even when Congress and the courts say no.
These two things alone qualify her over and above Trump.
I am qualified over Trump.  If I took the oath of office I would mean it.  He wouldn't.  Every indication is Kamala would mean it.

Has Kamala Harris ever been in a unique election cycle that encompassed a pandemic and mail-in ballots? Has she ever won previously and actually ran the country during such times? Has she ever been in any position like that? I don't think very many candidates have. Also, do we really believe that Joe Biden was truly the most popular President of all time by count? Moreso than the first female candidate and the first black candidate? 

If she's called for dumb stuff, but, she's given no indication that she would do that dumb stuff, even when Congress and the courts say no. Why bother saying it to begin with, and, what does it mean when she says good stuff and Congress and the courts say no? Would she have the gusto to overturn them? Would you condone it? 

So, by your beliefs, it only takes just those two aspects to qualify someone over a Presidential candidate? The attempt to overturn an election during tumultuous times that had not been seen before at this magnitude, and, actually pushing and challenging Congress and the courts when they say no to certain things, since, you know, Congress and our court system here are oh so star spangled awesome and would NEVER, EVER do something dishonest or disloyal to it's tax payers. 

Interesting.

If a candidate you like gets to overturn elections and move against the will of Congress and judges, a candidate you dislike also gets to overturn elections and overturn the will of Congress and judges.
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(09-05-2024, 03:35 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(09-05-2024, 02:55 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Has Kamala Harris ever been in a unique election cycle that encompassed a pandemic and mail-in ballots? Has she ever won previously and actually ran the country during such times? Has she ever been in any position like that? I don't think very many candidates have. Also, do we really believe that Joe Biden was truly the most popular President of all time by count? Moreso than the first female candidate and the first black candidate? 

If she's called for dumb stuff, but, she's given no indication that she would do that dumb stuff, even when Congress and the courts say no. Why bother saying it to begin with, and, what does it mean when she says good stuff and Congress and the courts say no? Would she have the gusto to overturn them? Would you condone it? 

So, by your beliefs, it only takes just those two aspects to qualify someone over a Presidential candidate? The attempt to overturn an election during tumultuous times that had not been seen before at this magnitude, and, actually pushing and challenging Congress and the courts when they say no to certain things, since, you know, Congress and our court system here are oh so star spangled awesome and would NEVER, EVER do something dishonest or disloyal to it's tax payers. 

Interesting.

If a candidate you like gets to overturn elections and move against the will of Congress and judges, a candidate you dislike also gets to overturn elections and overturn the will of Congress and judges.

Completely understand that it's a two way street. I just find it interesting that it's just those two instances in particular that you're judging the candidates on. 

Are you also factoring in anything else, such as:

Energy Sector - Renewable, clean, fossil fuels, solar, etc. What moves and investments are being made here to benefit us all in the long run?

Economy - Locally & nationally, what are we doing to help our tax payers?

Retirement - For the current generation, and generations to come, what do the coffers look like and what are the pensions looking like?

Medical - What are we doing here to ensure it's fair and affordable for everybody in need?

Military - How this is budgeted, is their any concerns short term and long term. How are we doing on our veteran's?

Foreign Aid - How is this budgeted, does this pave the way for global conflict or strengthen our relationships?

Geopolitical - What is our overall standing with the rest of the world, both, economically and politically?

Education - What are we doing to improve our overall literacy, test scores and general "know how" for our youth?

Infrastructure - With our country expanding in population, how are our buildings, bridges and roads holding up?

Security - What are we doing about our border's along with any potential terrorist groups and terror cells developing?
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(09-05-2024, 02:43 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(09-05-2024, 01:58 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: You have not stated it clearly.  You have not stated why she is better you only stated why Donald is not.  You cannot name her strengths because she has none.  Again Mike with you and your party's tired democratic argument, "she isn't Trump"

I also remind you Harris is the same woman who was voted the least popular VP ever a few months ago.


I am qualified over Trump.  If I took the oath of office I would mean it.  He wouldn't.  Every indication is Kamala would mean it.

MIke you come off as someone with a serious case of Trump Derangement syndrome and can no longer respect any of your view points when it comes to politics.
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