This is the final sack. Will likely have to wait until the All-22 is released to see the others (and a better view) but for the people saying Trevor needs to be better and can't take these sacks..

Exactly what is he supposed to do here? Scramble out to his right and pray it turns into a scramble drill? That's easier said than done especially for us fans who are sitting on the couch. Hes got his eyes down field.

Nobody is open.. The most open guy is ETN and he's at the LOS. It's 3rd and 14.

Kirk is blanketed in the middle of the screen. Engram covered on the bottom of the screen. Davis and BTJ are both being doubled with a Safety sitting over the top of each of them. It was a coverage sack on a play that everybody on the planet knew had to be a throw.
https://twitter.com/TrollPats/status/183...7489377756

Anton also seemed to just give up on that play. Trevor steps up in the pocket and then Ton stops blocking Jalean and it’s over that quick.

I feel like there are never any lay ups for Trevor. I watch other teams get their playmakers running wide open but Trevor always has to be perfect.

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This is the final sack. Will likely have to wait until the All-22 is released to see the others (and a better view) but for the people saying Trevor needs to be better and can't take these sacks..

Exactly what is he supposed to do here? Scramble out to his right and pray it turns into a scramble drill? That's easier said than done especially for us fans who are sitting on the couch. Hes got his eyes down field.

Nobody is open.. The most open guy is ETN and he's at the LOS. It's 3rd and 14.

Kirk is blanketed in the middle of the screen. Engram covered on the bottom of the screen. Davis and BTJ are both being doubled with a Safety sitting over the top of each of them. It was a coverage sack on a play that everybody on the planet knew had to be a throw.
https://twitter.com/TrollPats/status/183...7489377756

Stepping up and to the right was the right move. You do that and who knows who ends up being open or how the play develops.

Harrison did his job to a point - the pass rushers went up field - and if Trevor steps up and moves to the right, Phillips has no chance of sacking Trevor.

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This is the final sack. Will likely have to wait until the All-22 is released to see the others (and a better view) but for the people saying Trevor needs to be better and can't take these sacks..

Exactly what is he supposed to do here? Scramble out to his right and pray it turns into a scramble drill? That's easier said than done especially for us fans who are sitting on the couch. Hes got his eyes down field.

Nobody is open.. The most open guy is ETN and he's at the LOS. It's 3rd and 14.

Kirk is blanketed in the middle of the screen. Engram covered on the bottom of the screen. Davis and BTJ are both being doubled with a Safety sitting over the top of each of them. It was a coverage sack on a play that everybody on the planet knew had to be a throw.
https://twitter.com/TrollPats/status/183...7489377756

What is Harrison doing there? Sustain the block! No reason to just try and push him and his assignment takes 2 steps and is at Lawrence.

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He’s not a rookie, he’s a QB with a $250M contract.

You gotta give me more during crunch time. Sorry. My standards are higher than this.  At least he didn’t turn the ball over. That’s a huge positive. He’s averaging over a TO per game so at least that was cleaned up so far.

In order to do something in crunch time you have to actually have the ball in crunch time. Lawrence was only given 21 attempts the whole game.

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Play calling looked exactly like last year to me.

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Play calling looked exactly like last year to me.

A 24-7 lead if the player doesn't [BLEEP] the bed?

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Play calling looked exactly like last year to me.

A 24-7 lead if the player doesn't [BLEEP] the bed?

True but once that happened it's like they freaked out and made the worst possible decision the rest of the game. Just felt off the whole second half.

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Play calling looked exactly like last year to me.

A 24-7 lead if the player doesn't [BLEEP] the bed?

That was a lucky punch by the defender.  Seriously, what could TE1 have done different?

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https://twitter.com/hashtaguars/status/1...915L-t18Xg

Yea I posted that in the gameday thread just a little bit ago (then deleted it), but it's not correct. Well as far as the Achane's yards after catch number that is. He had 7 catches for 76 yards, so he couldn't have had 101 yards after the catch. He had 100 yards total between rushing and receiving.

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A 24-7 lead if the player doesn't [BLEEP] the bed?

That was a lucky punch by the defender.  Seriously, what could TE1 have done different?

I dunno, what was Engram doing on that play?

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I feel like everything looks so damn hard for the Jags every week and I can never understand why.

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I feel like everything looks so damn hard for the Jags every week and I can never understand why.

Because we have bad oline play, and a suspect offensive scheme.   

3rd and 14 to essentially end the game, you send out 5 receivers and 3 of them are running routes inide 7 yards.  Antin harrison gets beat for s sack.  Yes, thats bad oline play, but you essentially had a two man route.   If you max protect you at least have time to let the play develop and mayve get a pi.  Harrison struggled with phillips all game.

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Pigeon holed yet again by Press Taylor. Say it ain’t so

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He’s not a rookie, he’s a QB with a $250M contract.

You gotta give me more during crunch time. Sorry. My standards are higher than this.  At least he didn’t turn the ball over. That’s a huge positive. He’s averaging over a TO per game so at least that was cleaned up so far.

In order to do something in crunch time you have to actually have the ball in crunch time. Lawrence was only given 21 attempts the whole game.

Agreed. This is why I can't knock him after the loss. He didn't really do anything yesterday to cost you this game.

I think he conducted himself well. I think the running game started off strong, it opened up the passing game earlier on and then everybody clammed up after ETN's fumble.

The fact that it was 7 run plays, 1 pass play and 2 sacks given up on the final 3 drives is alarming. Even if you think it was a RPO presnap with him having the ability to check in and out of certain looks?

It still boiled down to bad line play during crunch time. Doug and Press need to figure something out here during the month of September.

Have to at least manage a 2 - 2 start. Every week, teams figure out a way to scheme their best players open on offense or at least get them into a scoring position.

Regardless of the situation. It's too easy to say it went all downhill after ETN's fumble. I get that. That's an easy out.

BUT... again. It's year [BLEEP] three. They have played in tougher situations as a team and staff. They have dug themselves out of deeper holes. You still had a 17 - 14 lead and you could have settled the team down better with the right calls.

They didn't do that. They shut themselves down in the 2nd half and it really falls back on the mental psyche of your football team. We'll see. Hopefully Sunday they can do the same to Cleveland but actually stick a dagger in them and twist it off for a convincing win.

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It’s pretty obvious at this point one thing Trevor is not very good at is escaping the pocket when the initial look isn’t there or if there is any type of edge pressure. 

It’s not always the same cause but there are times where the clock in his head is still too slow when the look / design isn’t there and he doesn’t have a great feel for ‘Hey it’s time for me to go and create something here because the throw I wanted isn’t there.’

Yesterday as one poster already pointed out on that last drive both plays he would have had an opportunity to do so by stepping up and rolling right since Phillips took a really wide rush. But that has never been his game for as long as I have seen him play. He can make some really impressive throws. And sometimes under duress. But the instinct to go and create off script just isn’t there.

That being said I do agree with what posters have been saying and that is our play calling is not tailored to his strengths.

The entire second half we revert to this ultra conservative play calling which featured a first down run every time , usually followed by a short pass screen or another run to try and get into third and manageable… which we were not able to convert.

It’s like we are calling plays on every down based on some football coaching for dummies Manuel that tells us we need to be in 3rd and 5 or less here and then when we get into that situation we run routes exactly at the sticks or if it’s short enough we try to wedge block and drive for a first which we are clearly still
Not capable of doing.

There was little aggression on early downs play action downfield shots… which did have some effect on their pass rush BTW once we figured out we didn’t want to leave the end unblocked after the first play. And there is less creativity with downfield passing play design on early downs.

First and second down defense doesn’t know if it’s run or pass… makes it easier for o line to pass pro.. we use those downs almost exclusively for run or short pass.. then when the defense knows we have to throw on third down we obviously struggle to hold up in protection consistently. 

At some point the play calling needs to make life easier on the players with their deficiencies in mind. Instead we choose to make life harder for ourselves, this is why every drive feels so much harder. We have a QB that excels in a few things and one is pushing the ball down the field. And we refuse to do it for most of the game except on obvious passing situations.

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In order to do something in crunch time you have to actually have the ball in crunch time. Lawrence was only given 21 attempts the whole game.

Agreed. This is why I can't knock him after the loss. He didn't really do anything yesterday to cost you this game.

I think he conducted himself well. I think the running game started off strong, it opened up the passing game earlier on and then everybody clammed up after ETN's fumble.

The fact that it was 7 run plays, 1 pass play and 2 sacks given up on the final 3 drives is alarming. Even if you think it was a RPO presnap with him having the ability to check in and out of certain looks?

It still boiled down to bad line play during crunch time. Doug and Press need to figure something out here during the month of September.

Have to at least manage a 2 - 2 start. Every week, teams figure out a way to scheme their best players open on offense or at least get them into a scoring position.

Regardless of the situation. It's too easy to say it went all downhill after ETN's fumble. I get that. That's an easy out.

BUT... again. It's year [BLEEP] three. They have played in tougher situations as a team and staff. They have dug themselves out of deeper holes. You still had a 17 - 14 lead and you could have settled the team down better with the right calls.

They didn't do that. They shut themselves down in the 2nd half and it really falls back on the mental psyche of your football team. We'll see. Hopefully Sunday they can do the same to Cleveland but actually stick a dagger in them and twist it off for a convincing win.

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My question though is how much latitude does Trevor have to audible out of the play or change the play at the line based on the look. Or at least go to Press and be like let me be me.

I know you don't want T-Law to go full Turbo and force the hero ball resulting in mistakes. But when your QB who is supposed to be your best player on offense, he cannot just let himself be taking out of the game due to play calling resulting in him no longer being in rhythm for the last drive or two.

The issue is that it just feels like Lawrence doesn't level up like that enough. Elite QB's do that multiple times a season, and often in the biggest moments/games.

For as much as we want to "explain away" a stat like Lawrence's 1-19 record in games when the Jags defense does not net a TO, elite QB's don't have that kind of record in those types of games.

Plus the lead after the fumble was still 17-7. We keep acting like the Tyreek 80 yard TD was inevitable, but it was not. Sure you may give up a big catch, but you cannot allow him the space to beat you up the sidelines.

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Agreed. This is why I can't knock him after the loss. He didn't really do anything yesterday to cost you this game.

I think he conducted himself well. I think the running game started off strong, it opened up the passing game earlier on and then everybody clammed up after ETN's fumble.

The fact that it was 7 run plays, 1 pass play and 2 sacks given up on the final 3 drives is alarming. Even if you think it was a RPO presnap with him having the ability to check in and out of certain looks?

It still boiled down to bad line play during crunch time. Doug and Press need to figure something out here during the month of September.

Have to at least manage a 2 - 2 start. Every week, teams figure out a way to scheme their best players open on offense or at least get them into a scoring position.

Regardless of the situation. It's too easy to say it went all downhill after ETN's fumble. I get that. That's an easy out.

BUT... again. It's year [BLEEP] three. They have played in tougher situations as a team and staff. They have dug themselves out of deeper holes. You still had a 17 - 14 lead and you could have settled the team down better with the right calls.

They didn't do that. They shut themselves down in the 2nd half and it really falls back on the mental psyche of your football team. We'll see. Hopefully Sunday they can do the same to Cleveland but actually stick a dagger in them and twist it off for a convincing win.

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My question though is how much latitude does Trevor have to audible out of the play or change the play at the line based on the look. Or at least go to Press and be like let me be me.

I know you don't want T-Law to go full Turbo and force the hero ball resulting in mistakes. But when your QB who is supposed to be your best player on offense, he cannot just let himself be taking out of the game due to play calling resulting in him no longer being in rhythm for the last drive or two.

The issue is that it just feels like Lawrence doesn't level up like that enough. Elite QB's do that multiple times a season, and often in the biggest moments/games.

For as much as we want to "explain away" a stat like Lawrence's 1-19 record in games when the Jags defense does not net a TO, elite QB's don't have that kind of record in those types of games.

Plus the lead after the fumble was still 17-7. We keep acting like the Tyreek 80 yard TD was inevitable, but it was not. Sure you may give up a big catch, but you cannot allow him the space to beat you up the sidelines.

Highest paid Quarterback's in the NFL right now based on APY (Average Per Year):

1. Dak Prescott - 32 pass attempts yesterday
2A. Trevor Lawrence - 21 pass attempts yesterday 
2B. Joe Burrow - 29 pass attempts yesterday 
2C. Jordan Love - 34 pass attempts on Friday in Brazil
3. Tua Tagovailoa - 37 pass attempts yesterday
4. Jared Goff - 28 pass attempts
5. Justin Herbert - 26 pass attempts 
6. LaMar Jackson - 41 pass attempts 
7. Jalen Hurts - 34 pass attempts
8. Kyler Murray - 31 pass attempts

Again, what are we doing? We have the 2nd highest paid player at $55M per year now tied with Burrow and Love and he's getting the LEAST amount of passing attempts in the season opener? So, again, what in the [BLEEP] are we doing here?

Plus the three drops on third down's yesterday. He only had 12 completions in that game. The offense was too conservative against an explosive offensive opponent wise. I can't rip and attack Lawrence if you're not giving him the opportunity to show what he can or cannot do or handle.

What's the point of paying him $55M per year if you're not giving him the pass attempts as the other guys in the same range money wise? #FreeSunshine

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https://twitter.com/mikerenner_/status/1...7041119741

Yea but let's not let this dude continue to air it out the entire 2nd half. ETN cost them the game but this coaching staff continues to let Trevor down.

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Yea but let's not let this dude continue to air it out the entire 2nd half. ETN cost them the game but this coaching staff continues to let Trevor down.

Agreed. 21 pass attempts. 12 completions, 3 dropped 3rd down conversions, 3 sacks surrendered, 1 sack that torpedo their opening drive and then back-to-back sacks that came back full circle to finish their day off for good. 

Somebody needs to be held more accountable within that coaching staff. Sure, the players need to execute better in specific situations, however, this is year three now and we're having the very same conversations per usual.

At what point do we collectively decide that the coaching staff needs to make further adjustments and/or hold people and personnel more accountable or make significant changes with their play calling. 

Again, 21 [BLEEP] pass attempts. After the passing game looked good with chunk plays with just those 12 completions to look at. You're paying this man $55M per year now. Time to let him cook.

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