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DEBATE -- Trump v Harris
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09-12-2024, 05:09 PM
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(09-12-2024, 05:05 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:(09-12-2024, 05:01 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: I've watched videos of independent panels that say otherwise. She did not win this debate. Nobody has a plan for non government single payer healthcare. Did you want him to lie? Healthcare questions are as much of a trap as abortion. Nobody has a real solution with how much corruption there is with big pharma, bought and paid for by the government. It is impossible to "fix" the healthcare system. Just because kamala exceeded extremely low expectations does not equate to her winning. https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status...BtBWg&s=19 We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
09-12-2024, 05:14 PM
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My wife thought Trump was winning the debate in the first half when Kamala was making all those "get a load of this" faces at him and he was remaining calm and letting her talk.
She said the second half was too hard to watch and they were both terrible. She finds Harris annoying no matter what and she finds Trump "smart" as long as he doesn't get angry. She will probably vote for him for a third time. We don't talk politics much in our house.
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
09-12-2024, 05:17 PM
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(09-12-2024, 05:14 PM)mikesez Wrote: My wife thought Trump was winning the debate in the first half when she was making all those "get a load of this" faces at him and he was remaining calm and letting her talk. Your wife sounds like a smart woman. Marty, you gloated for weeks when the polls were tight, posting them left and right claiming to "only report the facts" while pretending to be impartial. You have been silent ever since. Why? https://twitter.com/GuntherEagleman/stat...ZqYow&s=19
09-12-2024, 05:29 PM
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(09-12-2024, 05:17 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:(09-12-2024, 05:14 PM)mikesez Wrote: My wife thought Trump was winning the debate in the first half when she was making all those "get a load of this" faces at him and he was remaining calm and letting her talk. Have I been silent? Maybe I decided to give you guys a break. No, seriously, what do you want me to comment on? By the way, Mike, my wife is also voting for Trump. We don't talk politics, either. I think when Trump finally disappears from the scene, she and I will be politically reunited, because on almost every issue, we agree.
(09-12-2024, 05:29 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:(09-12-2024, 05:17 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Your wife sounds like a smart woman. Keep posting polls. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
09-12-2024, 05:39 PM
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(09-12-2024, 05:36 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:(09-12-2024, 05:29 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: Have I been silent? Maybe I decided to give you guys a break. No, seriously, what do you want me to comment on? This is where I go for polls. This site averages the various polls. You can click on "Battleground States" and see the states that really matter. 2024 National: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling Reuters is the latest one, done after the debate, and has Harris up by 5%. The average of all the polls is Harris up by 1.5%. But what matters is the swing states, of course. So you don't need me to post polls! Just click that link and there they all are.
(09-12-2024, 05:39 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:(09-12-2024, 05:36 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Keep posting polls. 5% lol, sure. Averaging 10 bogus polls with 2 real ones doesn't provide an accurate picture.
09-12-2024, 05:49 PM
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(09-12-2024, 05:45 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:(09-12-2024, 05:39 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: This is where I go for polls. This site averages the various polls. You can click on "Battleground States" and see the states that really matter. So the only polls you believe are the ones you like. Got it. So, go to that website, look at the smorgasbord of polls, and believe the ones you want to believe, and don't believe the ones you don't want to believe. That'll work at least until the first week of November. Then, who knows?
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https://twitter.com/dom_lucre/status/183...RJJnA&s=19 BREAKING: Footage has released showing President Biden and Kamala Harris being met with silence when they enter a room full of firefighters, Donald Trump walked in behind them and was met with a standing ovation. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(09-12-2024, 05:49 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:(09-12-2024, 05:45 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: 5% lol, sure. Averaging 10 bogus polls with 2 real ones doesn't provide an accurate picture. No. I tend to put a lot of weight in historical accuracy and not oversampling of one side to get the desired result. (09-12-2024, 05:39 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:Majority of the polls show Trump won the debate.(09-12-2024, 05:36 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Keep posting polls. The polls you are using are all over sampling democrats, they are now at a minimum +10. Sent from my SM-T970 using Tapatalk
09-12-2024, 06:13 PM
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(09-12-2024, 06:06 PM)p_rushing Wrote:(09-12-2024, 05:39 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: This is where I go for polls. This site averages the various polls. You can click on "Battleground States" and see the states that really matter.Majority of the polls show Trump won the debate. That is not true. Fact check: Trump falsely claims every poll says he won the debate | CNN Politics Former President Donald Trump has returned to a time-honored tradition of his: citing junk online polls to claim he was the clear winner of a presidential debate that scientific polls found he lost. As of Thursday morning, every major scientific poll about the debate — every poll that used random sampling techniques to try to obtain a representative picture of US public opinion — had found that Harris won. The polls in which most respondents said Trump won were unscientific junk polls — open questions posted online — that allowed an unlimited number of people to click and respond no matter how old they are or what country they live in, making the results useless as a measure of US public opinion.
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (09-12-2024, 06:13 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:Scientific doesn't mean it is a good poll. Every "scientific" poll can be manipulated to get the "correct" results.(09-12-2024, 06:06 PM)p_rushing Wrote: Majority of the polls show Trump won the debate. Watch the video with the independents, they are all moving to Trump. Even all the polls that you post say that Trump is winning the independents. Somehow they "magically" end up with Kamala ahead. Sent from my SM-T970 using Tapatalk
(09-12-2024, 06:41 PM)p_rushing Wrote:(09-12-2024, 06:13 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: That is not true.Scientific doesn't mean it is a good poll. Every "scientific" poll can be manipulated to get the "correct" results. It's probably one of the very few things they can do to drum up excitement..
It's going to be close. She has to be ahead by at least 4% nationally to win the election in my opinion, because she will pile up a lot of popular votes in deep blue states. Right now, it looks like it will all come down to Pennsylvania and North Carolina, and I think she's trailing by a slight margin in both those states. She could win the popular vote nationally but lose in the electoral college.
(09-13-2024, 05:23 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: It's going to be close. She has to be ahead by at least 4% nationally to win the election in my opinion, because she will pile up a lot of popular votes in deep blue states. Right now, it looks like it will all come down to Pennsylvania and North Carolina, and I think she's trailing by a slight margin in both those states. She could win the popular vote nationally but lose in the electoral college. It’s very close in North Carolina, from what I’ve heard and read. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
09-13-2024, 06:02 AM
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(09-13-2024, 05:37 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:(09-13-2024, 05:23 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: It's going to be close. She has to be ahead by at least 4% nationally to win the election in my opinion, because she will pile up a lot of popular votes in deep blue states. Right now, it looks like it will all come down to Pennsylvania and North Carolina, and I think she's trailing by a slight margin in both those states. She could win the popular vote nationally but lose in the electoral college. One thing in her favor in North Carolina is that Republicans have run an extremist for governor and the latest polls have him losing by double digits. In a very close Presidential race, that could make a difference. North Carolina : Governor : 2024 Polls | FiveThirtyEight (09-12-2024, 05:14 PM)mikesez Wrote: My wife thought Trump was winning the debate in the first half when Kamala was making all those "get a load of this" faces at him and he was remaining calm and letting her talk.Does she also peg you? ![]() ![]() Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk ![]() "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."
09-13-2024, 06:16 AM
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(09-12-2024, 05:14 PM)mikesez Wrote: My wife thought Trump was winning the debate in the first half when Kamala was making all those "get a load of this" faces at him and he was remaining calm and letting her talk. My wife is a wonderful person whom I admire very much but she is also voting for Trump. We don't talk about it. We agree on almost every major political issue, but she's voting for Trump and I can't stand the guy. |
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