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DEBATE -- Trump v Harris


(09-14-2024, 10:30 AM)mikesez Wrote: Still waiting on Jag149 and/or FSG to show me a third trimester abortion that didn't involve a severely deformed fetus or a mother that was dying.

Hold your breath, I'll be right back.
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(09-14-2024, 10:30 AM)mikesez Wrote: Still waiting on Jag149 and/or FSG to show me a third trimester abortion that didn't involve a severely deformed fetus or a mother that was dying.

Kimport, 2022.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9321603/

As usual your facts are just your wrong opinion.
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(09-14-2024, 10:47 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(09-14-2024, 10:30 AM)mikesez Wrote: Still waiting on Jag149 and/or FSG to show me a third trimester abortion that didn't involve a severely deformed fetus or a mother that was dying.

Kimport, 2022.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9321603/

As usual your facts are just your wrong opinion.

...I interviewed 28 cisgender women who obtained an abortion after the 24th week of pregnancy...

Seriously?
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(09-14-2024, 10:53 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(09-14-2024, 10:47 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Kimport, 2022.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9321603/

As usual your facts are just your wrong opinion.

...I interviewed 28 cisgender women who obtained an abortion after the 24th week of pregnancy...

Seriously?

Not to be confused with all the trans men getting late term abortions. That’s probably a whole other study.
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(09-14-2024, 10:53 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(09-14-2024, 10:47 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Kimport, 2022.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9321603/

As usual your facts are just your wrong opinion.

...I interviewed 28 cisgender women who obtained an abortion after the 24th week of pregnancy...

Seriously?

He asked for 1, I gave him a selection. There's less scholarship on transgender men having abortions but none on trangender women; almost like the label doesn't change the reality.
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_4rlkUxN...bWx1dzVkdA==

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(09-14-2024, 11:51 AM)Caldrac Wrote: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_4rlkUxN...bWx1dzVkdA==

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Stop listening to her words and focus on her skin color and vagina. That's all that matters.
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(09-14-2024, 11:51 AM)Caldrac Wrote: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_4rlkUxN...bWx1dzVkdA==

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Do you have an opinion on this video posted?
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(09-14-2024, 12:42 AM)p_rushing Wrote: All the false fact checking of Trump and not fact checking Kamala has seemed to have the opposite effect on people than the MSM planned. MSM is actually correcting ABC and Kamala, FBI releases the real crime numbers (that are even being reported), more stories of animals being eaten, diseases being spread, people being kicked out of apartments for illegals and the higher government check. All this stuff was relatively unknown to most of the people and now they are looking for the info and the MSM is forced to report it.

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Please cite your source. And Laura Loomer is not a valid source either.
 
Laura Loomer is a known loon, liar, and general right-wing propaganda spewer. There is ZERO evidence the Haitians ate any animals, let alone pets.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/no-ev...024-09-10/

Springfield, Ohio, officials: 'No credible reports' of crime by Haitian migrants; no cats or dogs have been harmed

Also, Donald was fact checked 10 times out of his lies on the debate stage only. 

I love how the MAGAs get caught in a hilariously stupid lie, and so move the goal posts!! Does this really work for the MAGA faithful? Asking for a friend!  I mean, Trump claimed the savage immigrants were eating CATS and DOGS, loving pets of good red blooded Americans!!! Now the rebuttal is - hey, they might be eating wild geese, which are not pets, not cats, not dogs. They eat them because they are savages, like this guy.
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(09-14-2024, 10:47 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(09-14-2024, 10:30 AM)mikesez Wrote: Still waiting on Jag149 and/or FSG to show me a third trimester abortion that didn't involve a severely deformed fetus or a mother that was dying.

Kimport, 2022.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9321603/

As usual your facts are just your wrong opinion.

Well that was a frustrating read.
There was no mention of women having life threatening complications.
There was a mention of how exceptionally rare all of these situations are, they are less than 1% of abortions.
Lots of mentions of fetuses with severe abnormalities, although in one case the physician still said the fetus was viable.
And some mentions of women who didn't know they were pregnant or who needed a lot of time to find the funds for an abortion. 
That last category does prove me wrong.
That's frustrating.  Anyhow, I thought such a thing should be illegal before and I still think it should be illegal.  The stories in that category involved crossing state lines.  They show that "leaving it up to the states" isn't doing much good.
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(09-14-2024, 12:28 PM)TDOSS Wrote:
(09-14-2024, 11:51 AM)Caldrac Wrote: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_4rlkUxN...bWx1dzVkdA==

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Do you have an opinion on this video posted?
Yeah. She's a loaded crock of [BLEEP] that spouts off information as fact when it takes me a few seconds while taking a [BLEEP] on the can to quickly search the following:

https://nypost.com/2024/09/14/world-news...bat-zones/

Whether you like Trump or not, and, plan on voting for this lying, biracial chameleon, the point is, she stood up there and got away with rattling off false information by the ABC Moderators and a lot of gullible, bleeding heart lefties and Democratic loyalist's will eat it up anyways as gospel.


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(09-13-2024, 08:35 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 08:30 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Props for being a great parent.

My point stands. A fetus isn't a baby. A fetus is made of cells that are functioning cells, however, functioning cells don't necessarily mean something is alive as even dead humans have functioning cells after death occurs. [font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]Also, fetus has a certain percentage chance of survival (maybe 50% on the high side) and becoming a functioning human life.[/font]

[font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]When you take all this into 'count, [font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]humans rights to happiness and/or control over their own health and body take precedent over any chance of potential functioning human life even and including potentially destroying potential functioning human life. To say anything other than this is reaching and not based in reality.[/font][/font]

I think your keyboard threw up.

(09-14-2024, 03:12 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(09-14-2024, 12:28 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Do you have an opinion on this video posted?
Yeah. She's a loaded crock of [BLEEP] that spouts off information as fact when it takes me a few seconds while taking a [BLEEP] on the can to quickly search the following:

https://nypost.com/2024/09/14/world-news...bat-zones/

Whether you like Trump or not, and, plan on voting for this lying, biracial chameleon, the point is, she stood up there and got away with rattling off false information by the ABC Moderators and a lot of gullible, bleeding heart lefties and Democratic loyalist's will eat it up anyways as gospel.


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What does your link say? You never explained.
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(09-14-2024, 05:04 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/...DLxwjCos5Q

Do you have an opinion or your just posting videos?

Syria and Iraq are not combat zones.  It's a bit of a technicality, but neither are designated combat zones.  We also have two large military bases in Kuwait, and had troops in Gaza.  Gaza is not a designated combat zone.
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(09-14-2024, 05:17 PM)TDOSS Wrote:
(09-14-2024, 05:04 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/...DLxwjCos5Q

Do you have an opinion or your just posting videos?

Syria and Iraq are not combat zones.  It's a bit of a technicality, but neither are designated combat zones.  We also have two large military bases in Kuwait, and had troops in Gaza.  Gaza is not a designated combat zone.

Tell that to the troops that are there.  Having been in a non-combat zone and seeing the damage an exocet missle does up close and personal might change your opinion.
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(09-14-2024, 06:03 PM)copycat Wrote:
(09-14-2024, 05:17 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Do you have an opinion or your just posting videos?

Syria and Iraq are not combat zones.  It's a bit of a technicality, but neither are designated combat zones.  We also have two large military bases in Kuwait, and had troops in Gaza.  Gaza is not a designated combat zone.

Tell that to the troops that are there.  Having been in a non-combat zone and seeing the damage an exocet missle does up close and personal might change your mind
Again, combat taking place doesn't automatically make it a combat zone, so her claim appears to be correct.  Edit: The Department of Defense stated that there isn't any active conflict.

So again, where is the lie here? Is it because some troops said it aint "so"?

Source: trust me bro.
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(09-14-2024, 06:19 PM)TDOSS Wrote:
(09-14-2024, 06:03 PM)copycat Wrote: Tell that to the troops that are there.  Having been in a non-combat zone and seeing the damage an exocet missle does up close and personal might change your mind
Again, combat taking place doesn't automatically make it a combat zone, so her claim appears to be correct.  Edit: The Department of Defense stated that there isn't any active conflict.

So again, where is the lie here? Is it because some troops said it aint "so"?

Source: trust me bro.

I stand by my statement.  How many "non-combat zones" have you been in?

Source: I have been there.
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(09-14-2024, 12:52 PM)TDOSS Wrote:
(09-14-2024, 12:42 AM)p_rushing Wrote: All the false fact checking of Trump and not fact checking Kamala has seemed to have the opposite effect on people than the MSM planned. MSM is actually correcting ABC and Kamala, FBI releases the real crime numbers (that are even being reported), more stories of animals being eaten, diseases being spread, people being kicked out of apartments for illegals and the higher government check. All this stuff was relatively unknown to most of the people and now they are looking for the info and the MSM is forced to report it.

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Please cite your source. And Laura Loomer is not a valid source either.
 
Laura Loomer is a known loon, liar, and general right-wing propaganda spewer. There is ZERO evidence the Haitians ate any animals, let alone pets.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/no-ev...024-09-10/

Springfield, Ohio, officials: 'No credible reports' of crime by Haitian migrants; no cats or dogs have been harmed

Also, Donald was fact checked 10 times out of his lies on the debate stage only. 

I love how the MAGAs get caught in a hilariously stupid lie, and so move the goal posts!! Does this really work for the MAGA faithful? Asking for a friend!  I mean, Trump claimed the savage immigrants were eating CATS and DOGS, loving pets of good red blooded Americans!!! Now the rebuttal is - hey, they might be eating wild geese, which are not pets, not cats, not dogs. They eat them because they are savages, like this guy.
There are way too many sources. You should venture out on the internet and explore.

If you don't think it is real, you really won't like all voodoo and cannibalism that they also practice.

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(09-14-2024, 06:36 PM)p_rushing Wrote:
(09-14-2024, 12:52 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Please cite your source. And Laura Loomer is not a valid source either.
 
Laura Loomer is a known loon, liar, and general right-wing propaganda spewer. There is ZERO evidence the Haitians ate any animals, let alone pets.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/no-ev...024-09-10/

Springfield, Ohio, officials: 'No credible reports' of crime by Haitian migrants; no cats or dogs have been harmed

Also, Donald was fact checked 10 times out of his lies on the debate stage only. 

I love how the MAGAs get caught in a hilariously stupid lie, and so move the goal posts!! Does this really work for the MAGA faithful? Asking for a friend!  I mean, Trump claimed the savage immigrants were eating CATS and DOGS, loving pets of good red blooded Americans!!! Now the rebuttal is - hey, they might be eating wild geese, which are not pets, not cats, not dogs. They eat them because they are savages, like this guy.
There are way too many sources. You should venture out on the internet and explore.

If you don't think it is real, you really won't like all voodoo and cannibalism that they also practice.

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Lots of Afro Caribbean people have voodoo and voodoo like practices. In Puerto Rico they call it Santeria. But they raise or buy their own animals for these rituals, and it doesn't bother anybody.
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(09-13-2024, 08:35 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 08:30 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Props for being a great parent.

My point stands. A fetus isn't a baby. A fetus is made of cells that are functioning cells, however, functioning cells don't necessarily mean something is alive as even dead humans have functioning cells after death occurs. [font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]Also, fetus has a certain percentage chance of survival (maybe 50% on the high side) and becoming a functioning human life.[/font]

[font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]When you take all this into 'count, [font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]humans rights to happiness and/or control over their own health and body take precedent over any chance of potential functioning human life even and including potentially destroying potential functioning human life. To say anything other than this is reaching and not based in reality.[/font][/font]

I think your keyboard threw up.

(09-14-2024, 06:36 PM)p_rushing Wrote:
(09-14-2024, 12:52 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Please cite your source. And Laura Loomer is not a valid source either.
 
Laura Loomer is a known loon, liar, and general right-wing propaganda spewer. There is ZERO evidence the Haitians ate any animals, let alone pets.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/no-ev...024-09-10/

Springfield, Ohio, officials: 'No credible reports' of crime by Haitian migrants; no cats or dogs have been harmed

Also, Donald was fact checked 10 times out of his lies on the debate stage only. 

I love how the MAGAs get caught in a hilariously stupid lie, and so move the goal posts!! Does this really work for the MAGA faithful? Asking for a friend!  I mean, Trump claimed the savage immigrants were eating CATS and DOGS, loving pets of good red blooded Americans!!! Now the rebuttal is - hey, they might be eating wild geese, which are not pets, not cats, not dogs. They eat them because they are savages, like this guy.
There are way too many sources. You should venture out on the internet and explore.

If you don't think it is real, you really won't like all voodoo and cannibalism that they also practice.

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So post a source that is creditable please. 

I'm begging for you to do so.

(09-13-2024, 08:35 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 08:30 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Props for being a great parent.

My point stands. A fetus isn't a baby. A fetus is made of cells that are functioning cells, however, functioning cells don't necessarily mean something is alive as even dead humans have functioning cells after death occurs. [font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]Also, fetus has a certain percentage chance of survival (maybe 50% on the high side) and becoming a functioning human life.[/font]

[font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]When you take all this into 'count, [font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]humans rights to happiness and/or control over their own health and body take precedent over any chance of potential functioning human life even and including potentially destroying potential functioning human life. To say anything other than this is reaching and not based in reality.[/font][/font]

I think your keyboard threw up.

(09-14-2024, 06:26 PM)copycat Wrote:
(09-14-2024, 06:19 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Again, combat taking place doesn't automatically make it a combat zone, so her claim appears to be correct.  Edit: The Department of Defense stated that there isn't any active conflict.

So again, where is the lie here? Is it because some troops said it aint "so"?

Source: trust me bro.

I stand by my statement.  How many "non-combat zones" have you been in?

Source:  I have been there.

Again, please prove the source wrong. I've posted a legit source proving you otherwise.

You're source is you've been there so its true.  Laughing

Why is it so hard to prove it since you've been there?

Are you saying that the Department of Defense are liars?
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