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DEBATE -- Trump v Harris


(09-15-2024, 10:27 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(09-15-2024, 10:08 PM)mikesez Wrote: Yeah it's definitely more accurate to blame Trump for the birthers than it is to blame Hillary.

Are you blaming the whole birther thing on Trump?

No.  Not the whole thing.
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(09-13-2024, 08:35 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 08:30 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Props for being a great parent.

My point stands. A fetus isn't a baby. A fetus is made of cells that are functioning cells, however, functioning cells don't necessarily mean something is alive as even dead humans have functioning cells after death occurs. [font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]Also, fetus has a certain percentage chance of survival (maybe 50% on the high side) and becoming a functioning human life.[/font]

[font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]When you take all this into 'count, [font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]humans rights to happiness and/or control over their own health and body take precedent over any chance of potential functioning human life even and including potentially destroying potential functioning human life. To say anything other than this is reaching and not based in reality.[/font][/font]

I think your keyboard threw up.

(09-15-2024, 10:27 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(09-15-2024, 10:08 PM)mikesez Wrote: Yeah it's definitely more accurate to blame Trump for the birthers than it is to blame Hillary.

Are you blaming the whole birther thing on Trump?

No it's Hillary's fault.
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(09-13-2024, 08:35 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 08:30 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Props for being a great parent.

My point stands. A fetus isn't a baby. A fetus is made of cells that are functioning cells, however, functioning cells don't necessarily mean something is alive as even dead humans have functioning cells after death occurs. [font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]Also, fetus has a certain percentage chance of survival (maybe 50% on the high side) and becoming a functioning human life.[/font]

[font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]When you take all this into 'count, [font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]humans rights to happiness and/or control over their own health and body take precedent over any chance of potential functioning human life even and including potentially destroying potential functioning human life. To say anything other than this is reaching and not based in reality.[/font][/font]

I think your keyboard threw up.

(09-15-2024, 06:00 PM)mikesez Wrote: The birther movement was racist and Trump promoted it.  But most Republicans knew Obama was born in the US and most Republicans don't care what race Harris is.  Most Dems don't care either, frankly, as long as she can win.

We forget how much of Trumps rise in politics was due to his constant rabble rousing about Obama’s birth certificate. He lied for YEARS about having some crack investigators in Hawaii digging up the truth. Years. When he finally was forced to admit that it just went on the pile of garbage we all know he lies about. He called into radio shows. He talked endlessly about it. It was how he got his creds in the right wing conspiracy culture he benefits from even today. Alll built on obvious provable lies.
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If you want to have some fun, do a little gamei play sometimes.

Start at the bottom of a page and scroll up and see if you can guess who wrote the post.
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(This post was last modified: 09-16-2024, 07:29 AM by WingerDinger. Edited 1 time in total.)

(09-16-2024, 07:21 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: If you want to have some fun, do a little gamei play sometimes. 

Start at the bottom of a page and scroll up and see if you can guess who wrote the post.

You can also tell who still hangs off of Obama's scrotum here.. Big Mike's.. Because everyone know Barry doesn't have a scrot, much like their followers.
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(This post was last modified: 09-16-2024, 03:58 PM by Lucky2Last. Edited 1 time in total.)

(09-16-2024, 12:58 AM)TDOSS Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 08:35 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: I think your keyboard threw up.

(09-15-2024, 10:27 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: Are you blaming the whole birther thing on Trump?

No it's Hillary's fault.

It's always the same thing. Failure to connect the dots. This was back in the day when you had to play politics. Hillary's camp released that information. They also released images of him dressed as a Muslim. They fired that staffer, too. They also accused him of using sexist codewords. Obama's camp accused her of running a smear campaign (which she did). But, I guess we can pretend that Clinton is as pure as the pure white snow. It's just her supporters who would do such horrible things. 

Obama released his birth certificate in June of 2008, before he was even officially nominated by the DNC. Why would he need to do that if this was just an idea perpetrated by Trump (which didn't start until 2011) or those dirty Republicans? The reason the Obama thing never took traction on the right was because Obama ran against John McCain, who was born in Panama. Otherwise, John McCain would have continued that trend... but not John McCain himself, obviously. Just his followers and the talking heads. John McCain was also as pure as the pure white snow, but I digress.

Here's a Snopes fact check on the allegation. Sure, there's no mention of Hillary, but who was he just running against? Not Trump... I can tell you that much. 

Is Barack Obama a Natural-Born Citizen of the U.S.? | Snopes.com

Even still, if you want to believe that, due to an absence of physical evidence this had nothing to do with Clinton, aka politics, then at least acknowledge this started with the Democrats. Oh, you know who was a democrat back then? Donald J. Trump. Look at that, we can both be right. Maybe he was the one shouting it at her rallies.
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(This post was last modified: 09-16-2024, 05:58 PM by mikesez.)

(09-16-2024, 03:56 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(09-16-2024, 12:58 AM)TDOSS Wrote: No it's Hillary's fault.

It's always the same thing. Failure to connect the dots. This was back in the day when you had to play politics. Hillary's camp released that information. They also released images of him dressed as a Muslim. They fired that staffer, too. They also accused him of using sexist codewords. Obama's camp accused her of running a smear campaign (which she did). But, I guess we can pretend that Clinton is as pure as the pure white snow. It's just her supporters who would do such horrible things. 

Obama released his birth certificate in June of 2008, before he was even officially nominated by the DNC. Why would he need to do that if this was just an idea perpetrated by Trump (which didn't start until 2011) or those dirty Republicans? The reason the Obama thing never took traction on the right was because Obama ran against John McCain, who was born in Panama. Otherwise, John McCain would have continued that trend... but not John McCain himself, obviously. Just his followers and the talking heads. John McCain was also as pure as the pure white snow, but I digress.

Here's a Snopes fact check on the allegation. Sure, there's no mention of Hillary, but who was he just running against? Not Trump... I can tell you that much. 

Is Barack Obama a Natural-Born Citizen of the U.S.? | Snopes.com

Even still, if you want to believe that, due to an absence of physical evidence this had nothing to do with Clinton, aka politics, then at least acknowledge this started with the Democrats. Oh, you know who was a democrat back then? Donald J. Trump. Look at that, we can both be right. Maybe he was the one shouting it at her rallies.

I'm not sure what your point is.  You could say this post isn't connecting the dots.
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(09-13-2024, 08:35 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 08:30 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Props for being a great parent.

My point stands. A fetus isn't a baby. A fetus is made of cells that are functioning cells, however, functioning cells don't necessarily mean something is alive as even dead humans have functioning cells after death occurs. [font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]Also, fetus has a certain percentage chance of survival (maybe 50% on the high side) and becoming a functioning human life.[/font]

[font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]When you take all this into 'count, [font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]humans rights to happiness and/or control over their own health and body take precedent over any chance of potential functioning human life even and including potentially destroying potential functioning human life. To say anything other than this is reaching and not based in reality.[/font][/font]

I think your keyboard threw up.

(09-16-2024, 03:56 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(09-16-2024, 12:58 AM)TDOSS Wrote: No it's Hillary's fault.

It's always the same thing. Failure to connect the dots. This was back in the day when you had to play politics. Hillary's camp released that information. They also released images of him dressed as a Muslim. They fired that staffer, too. They also accused him of using sexist codewords. Obama's camp accused her of running a smear campaign (which she did). But, I guess we can pretend that Clinton is as pure as the pure white snow. It's just her supporters who would do such horrible things. 
Do you have a source to this?
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(09-13-2024, 08:30 PM)TDOSS Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 07:16 PM)copycat Wrote: Adopted not one but two children in crisis.  Try again.

My point stands. A fetus isn't a baby. A fetus is made of cells that are functioning cells, however, functioning cells don't necessarily mean something is alive as even dead humans have functioning cells after death occurs. Also, fetus has a certain percentage chance of survival (maybe 50% on the high side) and becoming a functioning human life.

When you take all this into 'count, humans rights to happiness and/or control over their own health and body take precedent over any chance of potential functioning human life even and including potentially destroying potential functioning human life. To say anything other than this is reaching and not based in reality.

Interesting opinion. Do YOU have a link to prove this?
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(09-13-2024, 08:35 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 08:30 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Props for being a great parent.

My point stands. A fetus isn't a baby. A fetus is made of cells that are functioning cells, however, functioning cells don't necessarily mean something is alive as even dead humans have functioning cells after death occurs. [font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]Also, fetus has a certain percentage chance of survival (maybe 50% on the high side) and becoming a functioning human life.[/font]

[font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]When you take all this into 'count, [font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', sans-serif]humans rights to happiness and/or control over their own health and body take precedent over any chance of potential functioning human life even and including potentially destroying potential functioning human life. To say anything other than this is reaching and not based in reality.[/font][/font]

I think your keyboard threw up.

(09-17-2024, 08:43 AM)Jag149 Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 08:30 PM)TDOSS Wrote: My point stands. A fetus isn't a baby. A fetus is made of cells that are functioning cells, however, functioning cells don't necessarily mean something is alive as even dead humans have functioning cells after death occurs. Also, fetus has a certain percentage chance of survival (maybe 50% on the high side) and becoming a functioning human life.

When you take all this into 'count, humans rights to happiness and/or control over their own health and body take precedent over any chance of potential functioning human life even and including potentially destroying potential functioning human life. To say anything other than this is reaching and not based in reality.

Interesting opinion. Do YOU have a link to prove this?

Which point would you like a source on?
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