Trevor needs a mentor, the money's gone to his head, he doesn't have the drive, the will to win he used to. Bring in a Brady, Manning, Favre or somebody he'd respect for a sit-down and some motivation counseling.

Also his mechanics suck, continuously overthrows and other times throws bullets too hard to catch, partly because he's always in a hurry. Opposing defenses likely notice, just park a defender 10-15 yards behind the receiver he'll throw it right to you.

Or just bench him and go with Mac, can't be any worse and probably better, that’ll get his attention.

Yeah I'm a noob here but still think it's pertinent. Obviously it's a combination of things but QB play is def lacking and will repeat, he keeps overthrowing receivers, even when they're caught, they're nearly always high. That can be corrected if somebody brings it to his attention, he also needs a softer touch, always throwing a bullet, the receivers are good but can only handle so much. Watch some of the other good QB's and compare their style and ability (and stats).

Like SamusAranX said, Trevor's in a funk too, for whatever reasons his attitude,/drive/confidence are lacking, he's got the ability, he just needs some good one on one counseling/soul searching from someone he respects. He's also being pulled in lots of different directions outside football and needs to forget the external noise and totally re-focus on his job.

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We’re stuck now even if we want to move on we financially can’t. So don’t pull him make him play through this garbage season. Maybe he gets better maybe he gets worse but we’re stuck with him for a few years.

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Love the revisionist history. Suddenly people are up
At arms about Jimbob Cooter not being here.

It’s like saying the reason our offense is struggling is we don’t have Marvin Jones at WR anymore.

Trevor caught a hot streak in 2022, and..  combined with his college resume and scouting report, made the decision makers go all in on him.
Hopefully he can salvage his play and career for our sake.

The only one to look at is Trevor.

He's the major problem...but that Oline was put together by someone...and it's not good.  It's ok at best.

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Brandon Scherff is no longer that dude.   Next season I want him gone.

We’re stuck now even if we want to move on we financially can’t. So don’t pull him make him play through this garbage season. Maybe he gets better maybe he gets worse but we’re stuck with him for a few years.

Hopefully it can't be worse than season 1 under urban. Regression is a bummer but hey they paid him.

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Fans deserve better. Thanks for all the good times too many are in the past.

Will say this, love him or hate him, he takes ownership every postgame conference.

Unlike our coach who threw the whole roster under the bus and said it’s strange that he’d be asked about his job security.

Has me missing the Del Rio days. Yikes

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He sucked today.
Is what it is. He's regressed and doesn't show signs of breaking out of it.

Ownership is likely gonna try to salvage him by pairing him with a new offense and staff.
(I would - the big money hasn't kicked in yet and he's 24)

Until then - it'll be a roller coaster with more troughs than peaks.

Buckle up for 13 more weeks of disappointment with brief interjections of excitement.

He didn't suck today.  What a ridiculous take.

He sucked in the 1st half.  He did good enough to win this game in the 2nd half.  It's not his fault that the coaches suck.

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He left the winning points on the field by missing wide open receivers multiple times times. 

This one is on Trevor as much as it is on anyone.

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Will say this, love him or hate him, he takes ownership every postgame conference.

Unlike our coach who threw the whole roster under the bus and said it’s strange that he’d be asked about his job security.

Has me missing the Del Rio days. Yikes

LOL which means NOTHING. We care about wins. He can't win a game to save his life.

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I am a fan, not a cheerleader.

This game is totally on Trevor he can’t miss BTJ and Kirk on those deep plays. He can’t go 3 and out in the 4th with the lead.

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[BLEEP] you too Mandy Laurian. Also, it's on*, not in. My [BLEEP] is too tight for a door to fit in there. Unlike the leads this line team up from time to time.

This team is garbage. Defend the dog [BLEEP] if you want. Ticket holders keep this turd afloat. Not the players.

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I agree it’s a garbage team. 

I just think that you should maybe try to just let it be. You’re a good and reasonable poster and you’re wanting to sell one of the few positives we had down the river this year. 

Trevor is in a funk. Maybe he’s super self conscious about turnovers. Maybe he’s betting set up with crap calls. Maybe he’s in his own head. But we’ve seen what he can do and for whatever reason, that fateful night on Monday against our fellow cats….something changed. But he’s the best we’ve had at QB in a long time (a low bar no doubt) and also can light it up. We’ve seen that. But the coaches changed up everything. Doug has crapped the bed. So while Trevor needs to improve, I don’t know if he can in this crap fest. Try to have some perspective. Because if we send Trevor packing it will get a whole LOT worse

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He sucked today.
Is what it is. He's regressed and doesn't show signs of breaking out of it.

Ownership is likely gonna try to salvage him by pairing him with a new offense and staff.
(I would - the big money hasn't kicked in yet and he's 24)

Until then - it'll be a roller coaster with more troughs than peaks.

Buckle up for 13 more weeks of disappointment with brief interjections of excitement.

This is where I’m at. I think he’ll go on and eventually have a solid career. I just don’t think it will be here

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Trevor's play is making us miss Minshew and even Bortles LOL

Minshew somehow had WORSE stats today. I don’t miss him. 

Bortles lol. 

But proving my point for me. There’s no help coming if you think the jury is in on Trevor. This team can’t draft QBs

Laugh all you want, the sad part is he is not playing better than any of those 2. And career stats are similar if not worse. Dude is Daniel Jones lol

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I am a fan, not a cheerleader.

Will say this, love him or hate him, he takes ownership every postgame conference.

Unlike our coach who threw the whole roster under the bus and said it’s strange that he’d be asked about his job security.

Has me missing the Del Rio days. Yikes

This league is about wins.  Trevor has lost 10 straight.  He has no choice but to take ownership because he knows each week he makes to many mistakes and leaves to many plays on the field.

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He didn't suck today.  What a ridiculous take.

He sucked in the 1st half.  He did good enough to win this game in the 2nd half.  It's not his fault that the coaches suck.

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He left the winning points on the field by missing wide open receivers multiple times times. 

This one is on Trevor as much as it is on anyone.

We should have been up by 10 in the 4th Quarter, if not for the stupid coaching.

And even with that said.  We were up by 3 with 4 minutes left.

As usual, you ignore the overall point I made to cover your narrative.  I said in many threads, including the game day thread that Trevor was aweful in the 1st half.  

But this loss isn't on Trevor.  He and the rest of the PLAYERS did enough to win this game.  But the coaching staff is holding this entire team back.  They are not playoff level NFL caliber coaches.  This loss is inexcusable and coaches need to be fired.  Start with Press.  Then get rid of Doug at the end of the season.

Or just fire everyone, and let the Farwell run the show.  Heck, he's the only coach that actually has proven he knows how to run his squad.

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He left the winning points on the field by missing wide open receivers multiple times times. 

This one is on Trevor as much as it is on anyone.

We should have been up by 10 in the 4th Quarter, if not for the stupid coaching.

And even with that said.  We were up by 3 with 4 minutes left.

As usual, you ignore the overall point I made to cover your narrative.  I said in many threads, including the game day thread that Trevor was aweful in the 1st half.  

But this loss isn't on Trevor.  He and the rest of the PLAYERS did enough to win this game.  But the coaching staff is holding this entire team back.  They are not playoff level NFL caliber coaches.  This loss is inexcusable and coaches need to be fired.  Start with Press.  Then get rid of Doug at the end of the season.

Or just fire everyone, and let the Farwell run the show.  Heck, he's the only coach that actually has proven he knows how to run his squad.

I choose to ignore lots of your blathering. 

Not much point. 
You're obsessed with finding every way conceivable to blame various staff and you don't know what positions the players even play. Just in the past 24 hours alone you called a LB a DB and you thought our own nickel was playing safety. It's so not worth the effort to explain this stuff to you. 

You'll never understand truth when it stares you in the face concerning this team. You're too obsessed with your plays not players worldview of the NFL.

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We should have been up by 10 in the 4th Quarter, if not for the stupid coaching.

And even with that said.  We were up by 3 with 4 minutes left.

As usual, you ignore the overall point I made to cover your narrative.  I said in many threads, including the game day thread that Trevor was aweful in the 1st half.  

But this loss isn't on Trevor.  He and the rest of the PLAYERS did enough to win this game.  But the coaching staff is holding this entire team back.  They are not playoff level NFL caliber coaches.  This loss is inexcusable and coaches need to be fired.  Start with Press.  Then get rid of Doug at the end of the season.

Or just fire everyone, and let the Farwell run the show.  Heck, he's the only coach that actually has proven he knows how to run his squad.

I choose to ignore lots of your blathering. 

Not much point. 
You're obsessed with finding every way conceivable to blame various staff and you don't know what positions the players even play. Just in the past 24 hours alone you called a LB a DB and you thought our own nickel was playing safety. It's so not worth the effort to explain this stuff to you. 

You'll never understand truth when it stares you in the face concerning this team. You're too obsessed with your plays not players worldview of the NFL.

Feeling's mutual bud.

Though, over the last 2 seasons, I've been proven more accurate about what's the problem with this team than you.  Maybe take that into consideration before you take your "holier than thou" attitude.

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Trevor was the primary reason for today's loss. Those 2 overthrows were absolute killers. It is obvious that he is struggling tremendously due to loss of confidence. He is trying to do too much and placing all that pressure on himself has resulted in the worst play of his career.

All that being said, he is not going anywhere. I still believe he can eventually become a reliable quarterback- just not the "generational" talent we thought the team drafted in 2021. Khan needs to step up and replace Baalke and demand some coaches also lose their jobs- if not now then absolutely at the end of this season.

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I choose to ignore lots of your blathering. 

Not much point. 
You're obsessed with finding every way conceivable to blame various staff and you don't know what positions the players even play. Just in the past 24 hours alone you called a LB a DB and you thought our own nickel was playing safety. It's so not worth the effort to explain this stuff to you. 

You'll never understand truth when it stares you in the face concerning this team. You're too obsessed with your plays not players worldview of the NFL.

Feeling's mutual bud.

Though, over the last 2 seasons, I've been proven more accurate about what's the problem with this team than you.  Maybe take that into consideration before you take your "holier than thou" attitude.

Enjoy the blissful ignorance

Again, you don't even know what position these guys are playing out there. 
Half of this board could educate you with worthy information, but you're too stubborn to pick up on any of it.

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My goodness the absurd coddling for little Trevor is truly disturbing.

The guy played terribly. Missed MULTIPLE touchdown opportunities to BTJ and Kirk - along with numerous errant passes that either missed their mark or even if caught, caused the receiver to distort their bodies/routes and prevent them from converting for a first down.

We left at least 14 points, perhaps more, on the board solely on Trevvy Trev's performance today. Different week, same stench unfortunately - and this is why I've completely disembarked from his bandwagon.

I'm surprised, and quite frankly appalled, at the level of mental gymnastics and backpedaling to continue making wild excuses for him. The O-line played decently today where he had ample opportunities with a clean pocket to make a normal throw and he proceeds to air-mail it or miss the mark completely. At this point, his anemic performances are the norm and something we've sadly grown accustomed to. Let's hope he can provide our team with an atypical "good" performance where we win BECAUSE of him and not in spite of him.

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My goodness the absurd coddling for little Trevor is truly disturbing.

The guy played terribly. Missed MULTIPLE touchdown opportunities to BTJ and Kirk - along with numerous errant passes that either missed their mark or even if caught, caused the receiver to distort their bodies/routes and prevent them from converting for a first down.

We left at least 14 points, perhaps more, on the board solely on Trevvy Trev's performance today. Different week, same stench unfortunately - and this is why I've completely disembarked from his bandwagon.

I'm surprised, and quite frankly appalled, at the level of mental gymnastics and backpedaling to continue making wild excuses for him. The O-line played decently today where he had ample opportunities with a clean pocket to make a normal throw and he proceeds to air-mail it or miss the mark completely. At this point, his anemic performances are the norm and something we've sadly grown accustomed to. Let's hope he can provide our team with an atypical "good" performance where we win BECAUSE of him and not in spite of him.

Don't be such a moron.  LOL  (call back to the game day thread)

Seriously, though.  Trevor played bad in the first half.  I mentioned it throughout the first half.  But dude, he pulled his head out of his [BLEEP] in the 2nd half.  He's capable of being a top 10 QB.  I keep saying this, because it's true:  We didn't lose this game because of Lawrence.

Did Lawrence win this game?  NO.

But he did enough to put us in a position to win.  It was the coaching that failed.  This has been the same thing we've seen since last year.   The coaching isn't good enough.  This isn't a 0-4 squad.  But it is an 0-4 coaching staff.

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I was curious about how TL compared to Bortles and Gabbert three years in. While I forgot how bad Gabbert was there’s not a considerable difference between him and Bortles.

https://stathead.com/tiny/CtsZg

Consider expectations it’s hard not to consider him a bust at this point. Hopefully he turns it around but he’s on a bad path right now.

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I was curious about how TL compared to Bortles and Gabbert three years in. While I forgot how bad Gabbert was there’s not a considerable difference between him and Bortles.

https://stathead.com/tiny/CtsZg

Consider expectations it’s hard not to consider him a bust at this point. Hopefully he turns it around but he’s on a bad path right now.

I've never seen Lawrence throw balls into the heels of RBs for INTs....

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My goodness the absurd coddling for little Trevor is truly disturbing.

The guy played terribly. Missed MULTIPLE touchdown opportunities to BTJ and Kirk - along with numerous errant passes that either missed their mark or even if caught, caused the receiver to distort their bodies/routes and prevent them from converting for a first down.

We left at least 14 points, perhaps more, on the board solely on Trevvy Trev's performance today. Different week, same stench unfortunately - and this is why I've completely disembarked from his bandwagon.

I'm surprised, and quite frankly appalled, at the level of mental gymnastics and backpedaling to continue making wild excuses for him. The O-line played decently today where he had ample opportunities with a clean pocket to make a normal throw and he proceeds to air-mail it or miss the mark completely. At this point, his anemic performances are the norm and something we've sadly grown accustomed to. Let's hope he can provide our team with an atypical "good" performance where we win BECAUSE of him and not in spite of him.

Don't be such a moron.  LOL  (call back to the game day thread)

Seriously, though.  Trevor played bad in the first half.  I mentioned it throughout the first half.  But dude, he pulled his head out of his [BLEEP] in the 2nd half.  He's capable of being a top 10 QB.  I keep saying this, because it's true:  We didn't lose this game because of Lawrence.

Did Lawrence win this game?  NO.

But he did enough to put us in a position to win.  It was the coaching that failed.  This has been the same thing we've seen since last year.   The coaching isn't good enough.  This isn't a 0-4 squad.  But it is an 0-4 coaching staff.

I was contemplating calling you a moron in the other thread just now as a joke but decided to let the other two tango instead LOL.

There were a lot of variables at play, that you're right about, which contributed to our loss - most notably the horrific coaching and playcalling late in the game (which is disturbingly reminiscent of the same boneheaded woes from last year). 

We're looking at the problem from different ends or perspectives if you will. I'll keep harping on this that if he was indeed playing like a top 10 QB, he himself would have won us this game especially with those glaring missed opportunities - which ended up voiding potential points and touchdowns. And yes, his play improved from half-to-half, but that's not saying much with how abysmal his performance was from the outset.

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