Bosseli bashed Doug for calling out the players in the public saying it was on the players and not on the coaching. He said TC would get on the players [BLEEP] behind closed doors and it was rough but he never threw the players under the bus in the public.

Doug's on tilt.

I agree to a point that they did call a smart game, much more quick plays and opportunities to move. We didn't have a lot of unforced errors in penalties or turnovers.

Trevor missed some throws, that (hopefully) can be fixed.
The D proved porous, that (hopefully) can be fixed as players return from injury.
The playcalls at the end of the game were situationally inappropriate, and put the entire team in a difficult position to seal the victory. Again, hopefully that can be fixed.

While coach didn't name names, unwritten rule is to always take the blame publicly and put the criticism on others in private. I gotta wonder how long before he finally snaps.

[pops popcorn]

Agreed.. It can be fixed, but don't know if it will be..

And I'll take some of that popcorn, it's gonna be a show..

Pass the hot sauce..

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Shipley's takeaways:

https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/news/jagu...j90e5n7tvs

5 straight punts forced in the 2nd half for Nielsen's defense after getting diced up in the 1st half is a great point. Minus 2 starting linebackers and 2 starting secondary players along with Allen being taken out with a concussion. 

Maybe they SHOULD consider giving Nielsen the reigns in the interim if this team continues to fail. At least his squad, regardless of who is in and out the line-up. Seem to play somewhat hard for him and respond to him adjustments wise.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

It's a mess in Jacksonville and they're not going to move on from Trevor (and they shouldn't) so it's time to get the old junk out and bring in the new. In Staffords 4th year in the league, the Lions went 4-12. Stafford had 20 TDs and 17 interceptions with below 60% completion.

It's so cute that you decided to add this to your other nonsense post to somehow excuse Trevor pathetic performance this year.

The guy almost still threw for 5000 yards that year as well. And also in his third year he had one of his best seasons in QB history but yes go on and try to compare Lawrence mid career to Stafford all you want but Stafford is ten steps ahead the better QB as Trevor will ever be....

He threw the ball 700 times to get that 5K. 700 attempts is insane. That's almost 44 a game.

And I'm not saying Trevor is as good as Stafford. Stafford is elite. What I'm saying is at the point in his career, people were questioning if Stafford had the goods. Just like this situation here.

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Shipley's takeaways:

https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/news/jagu...j90e5n7tvs

5 straight punts forced in the 2nd half for Nielsen's defense after getting diced up in the 1st half is a great point. Minus 2 starting linebackers and 2 starting secondary players along with Allen being taken out with a concussion. 

Maybe they SHOULD consider giving Nielsen the reigns in the interim if this team continues to fail. At least his squad, regardless of who is in and out the line-up. Seem to play somewhat hard for him and respond to him adjustments wise.

Nielsen and his staff got good play out of two of those four backups yesterday too. 

I still don't like the way he's not getting Armstead on the field with JHA & TW, but... he did show he could adjust in-game yesterday with his back seven. (kinda have to when you give up a thousand yards in the first half) 

Anyway, I'm not crowning anyone on that staff right now, but McCoy would ostensibly need to be OC if they fire the guys everyone hates right now, there are no other qualified guys in house, so Nielsen at HC would make sense. 
Kris Richard (DB coach) has had multiple interviews in the past for DC jobs. He'd likely be fine there. 

I just wonder if Khan is thinking bye-week or January.

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5 straight punts forced in the 2nd half for Nielsen's defense after getting diced up in the 1st half is a great point. Minus 2 starting linebackers and 2 starting secondary players along with Allen being taken out with a concussion. 

Maybe they SHOULD consider giving Nielsen the reigns in the interim if this team continues to fail. At least his squad, regardless of who is in and out the line-up. Seem to play somewhat hard for him and respond to him adjustments wise.

Nielsen and his staff got good play out of two of those four backups yesterday too. 

I still don't like the way he's not getting Armstead on the field with JHA & TW, but... he did show he could adjust in-game yesterday with his back seven. (kinda have to when you give up a thousand yards in the first half) 

Anyway, I'm not crowning anyone on that staff right now, but McCoy would ostensibly need to be OC if they fire the guys everyone hates right now, there are no other qualified guys in house, so Nielsen at HC would make sense. 
Kris Richard (DB coach) has had multiple interviews in the past for DC jobs. He'd likely be fine there. 

I just wonder if Khan is thinking bye-week or January.

I would think it's the bye-week. If they're 0 - 11 or 2 - 8 with six weeks left? It would have to be over by that point. I think the situation with London presents a difficult challenge. We'll see. 

I am keeping the faith. It just takes one win. They almost had it yesterday. They're getting warmer. Maybe they turn the corner this Sunday at home, then they rip off two wins in London to get up to 3 - 4 against teams they should be further along than. 

They should beat the Bears and Patriots in London. They really should. They then get to see if they've built any momentum to contend within their weight class as Shipley put it. Packers and Eagles are teams that are tough, but, they have their issues. You have a puncher's chance to win against them in my opinion.

So, we'll see. It'll be funny as hell if we look back in six weeks and this team is all of a sudden 6 - 4. I have to keep the faith. Help me faith. LOL.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

5 straight punts forced in the 2nd half for Nielsen's defense after getting diced up in the 1st half is a great point. Minus 2 starting linebackers and 2 starting secondary players along with Allen being taken out with a concussion. 

Maybe they SHOULD consider giving Nielsen the reigns in the interim if this team continues to fail. At least his squad, regardless of who is in and out the line-up. Seem to play somewhat hard for him and respond to him adjustments wise.

Nielsen and his staff got good play out of two of those four backups yesterday too. 

I still don't like the way he's not getting Armstead on the field with JHA & TW, but... he did show he could adjust in-game yesterday with his back seven. (kinda have to when you give up a thousand yards in the first half) 

Anyway, I'm not crowning anyone on that staff right now, but McCoy would ostensibly need to be OC if they fire the guys everyone hates right now, there are no other qualified guys in house, so Nielsen at HC would make sense. 
Kris Richard (DB coach) has had multiple interviews in the past for DC jobs. He'd likely be fine there. 

I just wonder if Khan is thinking bye-week or January.

I agree with that.

Richard imo could also be interim HC imo. McCoy already proved he is not a good HC but he is capable as a OC.
Imo there is no point in keeping Baalke and Pederson. I don't see Pederson making the changes necessary or even being capable of turning the team around right now. Only reason to keep them is if you want the #1 pick.

Anyway, an interim HC could bring a spark to the team and we wouldn't have to see this [BLEEP] show... and maybe some players could show progress. If you are a Trevor fan you should be wanting this because there is no way he improves if the team stays this way.

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I am a fan, not a cheerleader.

I'd have to consider promoting Nielsen to interim head coach at this point. I'd have to know whether Lawrence has lost confidence in Pederson at this point. Of course,Pederson isn't to blame for the 2 terrible overthrows, but something has to change. My guess is that they wait at least until after the Indy game. If they lose at home to Indy, Khan may have to act then or nobody will be showing up for the remainder of home games.

Can't say I know whether Nielsen has what it takes to be a head coach. I do like his fiery demeanor and he has had success as a DC. Pederson may simply be burned out and ready to rest on his laurels as a Super Bowl winner with a statue outside Bud Light Stadium in Philly.

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Shipley's takeaways:

https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/news/jagu...j90e5n7tvs

5 straight punts forced in the 2nd half for Nielsen's defense after getting diced up in the 1st half is a great point. Minus 2 starting linebackers and 2 starting secondary players along with Allen being taken out with a concussion. 

Maybe they SHOULD consider giving Nielsen the reigns in the interim if this team continues to fail. At least his squad, regardless of who is in and out the line-up. Seem to play somewhat hard for him and respond to him adjustments wise.

Wait --- Did you watch the MNF Game vs the Bills in which the Jags gave up 5 straight TDs and then a field goal for a total of 37 points in the 1st half ?  I'd rather just bring back Coughlin, let him beat our players for 10+ weeks, get fined, and then move on to the next season under a new regime.

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5 straight punts forced in the 2nd half for Nielsen's defense after getting diced up in the 1st half is a great point. Minus 2 starting linebackers and 2 starting secondary players along with Allen being taken out with a concussion. 

Maybe they SHOULD consider giving Nielsen the reigns in the interim if this team continues to fail. At least his squad, regardless of who is in and out the line-up. Seem to play somewhat hard for him and respond to him adjustments wise.

Nielsen and his staff got good play out of two of those four backups yesterday too. 

I still don't like the way he's not getting Armstead on the field with JHA & TW, but... he did show he could adjust in-game yesterday with his back seven. (kinda have to when you give up a thousand yards in the first half) 

Anyway, I'm not crowning anyone on that staff right now, but McCoy would ostensibly need to be OC if they fire the guys everyone hates right now, there are no other qualified guys in house, so Nielsen at HC would make sense. 
Kris Richard (DB coach) has had multiple interviews in the past for DC jobs. He'd likely be fine there. 

I just wonder if Khan is thinking bye-week or January.

I do think that are going to wait until the bye-week at a minimum.  People who think it will be before that are going to be disappointed.

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Nielsen and his staff got good play out of two of those four backups yesterday too. 

I still don't like the way he's not getting Armstead on the field with JHA & TW, but... he did show he could adjust in-game yesterday with his back seven. (kinda have to when you give up a thousand yards in the first half) 

Anyway, I'm not crowning anyone on that staff right now, but McCoy would ostensibly need to be OC if they fire the guys everyone hates right now, there are no other qualified guys in house, so Nielsen at HC would make sense. 
Kris Richard (DB coach) has had multiple interviews in the past for DC jobs. He'd likely be fine there. 

I just wonder if Khan is thinking bye-week or January.

I do think that are going to wait until the bye-week at a minimum.  People who think it will be before that are going to be disappointed.

January 2027 earliest.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

5 straight punts forced in the 2nd half for Nielsen's defense after getting diced up in the 1st half is a great point. Minus 2 starting linebackers and 2 starting secondary players along with Allen being taken out with a concussion. 

Maybe they SHOULD consider giving Nielsen the reigns in the interim if this team continues to fail. At least his squad, regardless of who is in and out the line-up. Seem to play somewhat hard for him and respond to him adjustments wise.

Wait --- Did you watch the MNF Game vs the Bills in which the Jags gave up 5 straight TDs and then a field goal for a total of 37 points in the 1st half ?  I'd rather just bring back Coughlin, let him beat our players for 10+ weeks, get fined, and then move on to the next season under a new regime.

One game out of four though, the other three have been respectable enough in my opinion considering the amount of personnel challenges he's had to face with key injuries. 

I think Nielsen gets his breakout game with us this Sunday against the clots man. I really do. Expect a 27 to 10 win over them. Flacco gets buried 5x, tosses 2 INT's. His show needs to come to a close already. 

Sick of seeing him. Nielsen's going to get it done this Sunday. It's all coming together man. You'll see...

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Nielsen and his staff got good play out of two of those four backups yesterday too. 

I still don't like the way he's not getting Armstead on the field with JHA & TW, but... he did show he could adjust in-game yesterday with his back seven. (kinda have to when you give up a thousand yards in the first half) 

Anyway, I'm not crowning anyone on that staff right now, but McCoy would ostensibly need to be OC if they fire the guys everyone hates right now, there are no other qualified guys in house, so Nielsen at HC would make sense. 
Kris Richard (DB coach) has had multiple interviews in the past for DC jobs. He'd likely be fine there. 

I just wonder if Khan is thinking bye-week or January.

I agree with that.

Richard imo could also be interim HC imo. McCoy already proved he is not a good HC but he is capable as a OC.
Imo there is no point in keeping Baalke and Pederson. I don't see Pederson making the changes necessary or even being capable of turning the team around right now. Only reason to keep them is if you want the #1 pick.

Anyway, an interim HC could bring a spark to the team and we wouldn't have to see this [BLEEP] show... and maybe some players could show progress. If you are a Trevor fan you should be wanting this because there is no way he improves if the team stays this way.

Wait we agree on something. Shut the forum down. 

Jokes aside for the whole teams sake, yes we need changes. But I have little faith it’s going to happen mid season. Press should have already been demoted or outright fired by now. Doug is going down with his ship it seems

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Wait --- Did you watch the MNF Game vs the Bills in which the Jags gave up 5 straight TDs and then a field goal for a total of 37 points in the 1st half ?  I'd rather just bring back Coughlin, let him beat our players for 10+ weeks, get fined, and then move on to the next season under a new regime.

One game out of four though, the other three have been respectable enough in my opinion considering the amount of personnel challenges he's had to face with key injuries. 

I think Nielsen gets his breakout game with us this Sunday against the clots man. I really do. Expect a 27 to 10 win over them. Flacco gets buried 5x, tosses 2 INT's. His show needs to come to a close already. 

Sick of seeing him. Nielsen's going to get it done this Sunday. It's all coming together man. You'll see...

Keep the faith man, keep it. I need it too.

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what does Minshew and the Raiders beating the Browns yesterday tell you?
Coaching? QB? OC?

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Because Jaguars is our mantra 

And here we are, one week later, and my original post to start this thread stands.

This is why I wish they were building the stadium on a new site instead of renovating.

It's like rebuilding the house in Poltergeist on the same site. Why can so few see that this franchise is cursed? How much more evidence is necessary?

The grounds of the stadium need a full spiritual clense and blown to smithereens.

It was once a Native American burial ground.  There might be something to this.

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I just wonder if Khan is thinking bye-week or January.

I do think that are going to wait until the bye-week at a minimum.  People who think it will be before that are going to be disappointed.

Disappointed? I see you are new to Jaguars fandom.

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what does Minshew and the Raiders beating the Browns yesterday tell you?
Coaching? QB? OC?

Stefanski blew that game. Seems there is an outbreak of boneheaded coaching spreading around the league....hopefully we can patent a cure.

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Jags offense 31st in pre snap motion. Less than 10%

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Jags offense 31st in pre snap motion.  Less than 10%

Yep. It's frustrating. It's a QB's best friend. One of the easiest ways to figure out if a defense is in zone or man the majority of the time.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

It's so cute that you decided to add this to your other nonsense post to somehow excuse Trevor pathetic performance this year.

The guy almost still threw for 5000 yards that year as well. And also in his third year he had one of his best seasons in QB history but yes go on and try to compare Lawrence mid career to Stafford all you want but Stafford is ten steps ahead the better QB as Trevor will ever be....

He threw the ball 700 times to get that 5K. 700 attempts is insane. That's almost 44 a game.

And I'm not saying Trevor is as good as Stafford. Stafford is elite. What I'm saying is at the point in his career, people were questioning if Stafford had the goods. Just like this situation here.

Anyone with any sense is no longer questioning it. They are denying it's existence. He is a bust.

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Let's just say, hypothetical, Lawrence goes elsewhere, and balls.. That still means he was a bust on the Jaguars. Same with Darnold and the Jets, same with Geno and the Jets. Some orgs just run talent into the ground. We are 100% one of those organizations.

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He threw the ball 700 times to get that 5K. 700 attempts is insane. That's almost 44 a game.

And I'm not saying Trevor is as good as Stafford. Stafford is elite. What I'm saying is at the point in his career, people were questioning if Stafford had the goods. Just like this situation here.

Anyone with any sense is no longer questioning it. They are denying it's existence. He is a bust.

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Let's just say, hypothetical, Lawrence goes elsewhere, and balls.. That still means he was a bust on the Jaguars. Same with Darnold and the Jets, same with Geno and the Jets. Some orgs just run talent into the ground. We are 100% one of those organizations.

Bad organizations ruin QB's more than bad QB's ruin organizations. We don't know how to maintain success. We know how to occasionally capture it like lightning in a bottle and then we let it shatter shortly after. 

I agree with you. We're 1,000% one of those organizations. Not sure what the fix is or what it will take, but, it has to start with Khan doing what's right for himself and what's right for his franchise. 

He really does need to step away from the hiring process and find himself a team to do that for him. I am at least convinced by that. His record as an owner can attest to this.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."