This hadn't really been talked about yet that I have heard but could have major implications.  The hurricane has had a dramatic impact on several states and two of them are critical swing States.

In a close election year (according to polls), and at virtual ties in NC and GA, how will this storm effect the vote results.  I would lean towards this hurting Trump more then Harris.  The storm tore through MAGA areas in FL, GA,  & NC.  If voters turnout is down significantly in those areas, Trump could lose the Electoral College.  I can't think of any major democrat stronghold that was significantly hit.  Also,  how many mail in ballots are now ruined?  How is a ballot going to be delivered to a home that's no longer there,  or the occupants are sheltered elsewhere?  Election locations closed or gone,  workers displaced, ect.

I feel the timing and areas effected are a disaster for Republicans.  I know after hurricane Micheal here in Panama City, the only thing on people's minds was rebuilding homes and trying to get back to a normal life.  I didn't have power for almost a month and was not able to move back into my home for seven months.  

The election is only 35 days away.   There is no way this doesn't have a massive impact.

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I have the opposite take of you. Trump is out there acting like the president right now.


Plenty of money for Ukraine though.

https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status...BXAlg&s=19

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If the people affected by this weren’t mostly white, this administration would be all over it.

Sorry, that’s just the way I see it. Everything with Democrats is political. Everything. If they were to respond quickly to this, they would risk marginalizing the minority vote, so, they drag their feet. Just exactly like they did with the East Palestine train derailment.

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https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1...GZS0w&s=19

If the people affected by this weren’t mostly white, this administration would be all over it.

Sorry, that’s just the way I see it. Everything with Democrats is political. Everything. If they were to respond quickly to this, they would risk marginalizing the minority vote, so, they drag their feet. Just exactly like they did with the East Palestine train derailment.

Agreed..

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https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1...GZS0w&s=19

If the people affected by this weren’t mostly white, this administration would be all over it.

Sorry, that’s just the way I see it. Everything with Democrats is political. Everything. If they were to respond quickly to this, they would risk marginalizing the minority vote, so, they drag their feet. Just exactly like they did with the East Palestine train derailment.

They're up on top of hillsides that are only connected by dirt roads.
They're not all in one big city piled into one big shelter.
The storm is just as devastating as Katrina but there are reasons the response won't be quite like Katrina and those reasons have little to do with race.
You're the one making it about race.
I say all this as we are still awaiting a ping back from a work colleague in Yancey County NC. Hope they're safe.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

I think it's 50/50 really. People will find a way to vote in a little over a month from now. Come hell or high water.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

If the people affected by this weren’t mostly white, this administration would be all over it.

Sorry, that’s just the way I see it. Everything with Democrats is political. Everything. If they were to respond quickly to this, they would risk marginalizing the minority vote, so, they drag their feet. Just exactly like they did with the East Palestine train derailment.

They're up on top of hillsides that are only connected by dirt roads.
They're not all in one big city piled into one big shelter.
The storm is just as devastating as Katrina but there are reasons the response won't be quite like Katrina and those reasons have little to do with race.
You're the one making it about race.
I say all this as we are still awaiting a ping back from a work colleague in Yancey County NC. Hope they're safe.

Everything with democrats is about race.. Everything.

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All the small towns are not all connected by dirt roads. There is plenty of asphalt. I know this because we spend time in SW NC mountains every year.

If I were to make a guess as to why you mostly see Asheville in the media and not any of the small towns is because our governor is a Democrat, Asheville majority democrat, and the media is left leaning. No one on the blue side wants to hear about the conservatives in small towns who are is as much need as the liberals in Asheville.

Also there is simply the matter of logistics. Some areas further into the mountains than Asheville are simply cut off from the rest of the state. Landslides and rivers washing out roads, highways and bridges have made it impossible to get to some of these areas. Officials aren't letting people in or out of any accessible areas unless they live or work there, media included.

If you really want to know what's going on there you'll have to look to social media and find people who live there and are reporting what is happening or not happening. I can tell you that the government is not doing a damn thing so communities are making things happen. No red tape, no committees to vote, no bureaucracy. Just people helping their communities in need with no one looking for the spotlight to grandstand.

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This is what leadership looks like

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1840...tAzcw&s=19

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I think it's 50/50 really. People will find a way to vote in a little over a month from now. Come hell or high water.

Yeah, I don't see a massive impact from this.   Affected individuals could hold a grudge against the federal government for a slow response, but I don't envision that being a primary driver for the vast majority though.  I think most people have already made up their minds and this won't change anything.  And destroyed mail in ballots aren't that big of an issue 35 days out.  If you are that invested in the outcome, and I think most voters are, you will make your way to the polling booth for early voting or election day voting.

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I guess we will see how it plays out. The Harris side did flub their response, granted there is only so much that can be done in the first 48 hours. Still to be on a beach as the president and campaigning in California as the VP is a bad optic for them. So what if you made a phone call, a press conference with data from the ground and a sincere message of support would have been better received. They waited too long but I doubt the media will paint it in that light.

Trump on the other hand headed for affected areas and organized some supply drops and had a better message. I'm sure the media will find a way to roast him for it.

I hope this doesn't flip the election to one or the other, though I'm Republican I really hope those that want to vote on either side can. Hurricane Michael was terrible for our area, Cat 5 170+ winds. There damage is worse due to the flooding and landslide, its a force multiplier. Clean up and rebuilding will take years.

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I have seen a lot of people compare this storm to Katrina.  A few things that I noticed that makes them quite different.

The people affected the most by Katrina knew well in advance of the advancing storm and the potential devastation.  They had plenty of time in advance to prepare and/or evacuate, yet they chose to stay and were largely unprepared.

The people in NC and Tenn. probably never had any idea of the severity that Helene would cause them.  They prepared in advance, but never had any idea that a hurricane making landfall roughly 400 miles south of them would cause that much damage.

After Katrina hit, then President Bush ordered FEMA and other aid to go in almost immediately.  He was criticized for flying over to observe the damage and not being on the ground.  He stated after that he didn't want to be a distraction during the rescue/aid efforts.

After Helene hit President Biden was snoozing at the beach and claims that he was "on the phone for a couple of hours" supposedly directing rescue/aid efforts.  His Vice President commie-la meanwhile was in San Fransisco at a fundraiser.  Neither one could be bothered to change their schedules to at least make an appearance.  It took 4 days before any statement came from the White House.  Meanwhile President Trump visited while bringing supplies and also set up a "go fund me" money raising effort to help the people.  Elon Musk stepped up by supplying some Star Link terminals to get some communication going.  I have not seen any reports of FEMA or even the National Guard being on the scene.

After Katrina many of the victims had their hands out and were pretty much demanding everything that they needed from the government.  There were also many reports of shelters being trashed and wide spread looting.

So far I have not seen any reports of looting or people demanding anything from the government after Helene.  Almost every interview/report that I see from the people there they talk about helping one another out and doing what they need to do in order to survive.

About the only thing that Katrina and Helene have in common is the amount of devastation.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

If the people affected by this weren’t mostly white, this administration would be all over it.

Sorry, that’s just the way I see it. Everything with Democrats is political. Everything. If they were to respond quickly to this, they would risk marginalizing the minority vote, so, they drag their feet. Just exactly like they did with the East Palestine train derailment.

They're up on top of hillsides that are only connected by dirt roads.
They're not all in one big city piled into one big shelter.
The storm is just as devastating as Katrina but there are reasons the response won't be quite like Katrina and those reasons have little to do with race.
You're the one making it about race.
I say all this as we are still awaiting a ping back from a work colleague in Yancey County NC. Hope they're safe.

A real leader would have directed the National Guard to go in and start clearing roads, bringing in supplies and help with relief efforts.  FEMA should also be there doing the same thing, but I saw a story earlier that their priorities are DEI and environmental concerns.

Regardless if people live on hillsides and on dirt roads, the Federal, State and local governments all have the equipment needed to clear roads.  Residents are having to do what they can just to get fuel for chain saws and other equipment that they have to clear the roads up themselves.

So what exactly are the reasons for the response not being like Katrina?  Could it be that your party/"President"/Vice-"President" couldn't be bothered to help those white rednecks that live in the woods?

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

They're up on top of hillsides that are only connected by dirt roads.
They're not all in one big city piled into one big shelter.
The storm is just as devastating as Katrina but there are reasons the response won't be quite like Katrina and those reasons have little to do with race.
You're the one making it about race.
I say all this as we are still awaiting a ping back from a work colleague in Yancey County NC. Hope they're safe.

A real leader would have directed the National Guard to go in and start clearing roads, bringing in supplies and help with relief efforts.  FEMA should also be there doing the same thing, but I saw a story earlier that their priorities are DEI and environmental concerns.

Regardless if people live on hillsides and on dirt roads, the Federal, State and local governments all have the equipment needed to clear roads.  Residents are having to do what they can just to get fuel for chain saws and other equipment that they have to clear the roads up themselves.

So what exactly are the reasons for the response not being like Katrina?  Could it be that your party/"President"/Vice-"President" couldn't be bothered to help those white rednecks that live in the woods?

A press release on nationalguard.mil dated Friday said that the NG had mobilized 6,300 troops to the area.
My wife's employee's husband was deployed as of Thursday.
Enough with the misinformation.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

A real leader would have directed the National Guard to go in and start clearing roads, bringing in supplies and help with relief efforts.  FEMA should also be there doing the same thing, but I saw a story earlier that their priorities are DEI and environmental concerns.

Regardless if people live on hillsides and on dirt roads, the Federal, State and local governments all have the equipment needed to clear roads.  Residents are having to do what they can just to get fuel for chain saws and other equipment that they have to clear the roads up themselves.

So what exactly are the reasons for the response not being like Katrina?  Could it be that your party/"President"/Vice-"President" couldn't be bothered to help those white rednecks that live in the woods?

A press release on nationalguard.mil dated Friday said that the NG had mobilized 6,300 troops to the area.
My wife's employee's husband was deployed as of Thursday.
Enough with the misinformation.

Exactly what "misinformation" did I post?  I never said that the National Guard was not there, I said that a real leader would have directed that effort.  Perhaps if your president of your party had issued a statement of some kind last Friday saying as much rather than snoozing on the beach it might have been reported.  Why did the president in your party sit on the beach and not a word from him for 4 days?

Your democrat party has no leadership.  "Misinformation" that into your pipe and smoke it.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1...GZS0w&s=19

If the people affected by this weren’t mostly white, this administration would be all over it.

Sorry, that’s just the way I see it. Everything with Democrats is political. Everything. If they were to respond quickly to this, they would risk marginalizing the minority vote, so, they drag their feet. Just exactly like they did with the East Palestine train derailment.

KAMALA HARRIS DOESNT CARE ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE

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A real leader would have directed the National Guard to go in and start clearing roads, bringing in supplies and help with relief efforts.  FEMA should also be there doing the same thing, but I saw a story earlier that their priorities are DEI and environmental concerns.

Regardless if people live on hillsides and on dirt roads, the Federal, State and local governments all have the equipment needed to clear roads.  Residents are having to do what they can just to get fuel for chain saws and other equipment that they have to clear the roads up themselves.

So what exactly are the reasons for the response not being like Katrina?  Could it be that your party/"President"/Vice-"President" couldn't be bothered to help those white rednecks that live in the woods?

A press release on nationalguard.mil dated Friday said that the NG had mobilized 6,300 troops to the area.
My wife's employee's husband was deployed as of Thursday.
Enough with the misinformation.

That isn't enough.

The bigger issue is the US government is keeping the rest of the troops waiting to be sent to WW3. The national guard and the regular troops should be there helping to rescue people and starting to get services back.

Water service is going to take a long time to get back up and running. Even if people didn't lose their home and it's livable, they won't be able to buy anything with all the shortages from the strike now.

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Administration claims they have no money to help our folks out when they can send billions to Ukraine and Israel without blinking or getting cramps in their wrists while writing checks at break neck speed.

The federal reserve can create money out of thin air with a fiat currency to our Government when it's convenient for themselves but won't spend a dime when it benefits the tax payer.

This is just as bad as what they did, (or, didn't do), last year when those fires broke out in Hawaii and we left those people to fend for themselves really financially.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

This is where we've spent a lot of time over the years. Glad to finally see footage but it's also sad. As for the original question as to will this affect the election. After thinking about it for a couple of days I say no, it won't. And after seeing more footage of other areas and knowing the kinds of folks who live in these smalls towns I can say with a degree of certainty that the election is far from their minds right now. Their number one concern is survival, helping others if they are able, and how and when basic utilities will be restored. 

To make this political is insulting. Regardless of who they (or we) vote for they are currently all in the same situation and right now everyone should be thinking about and doing something to help them through this. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dbkc1ypi2c

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