The media is ruthless. It's warranted though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK9hthM-f2g

I'm waiting for the Jaguars United breakdown.  I'm sure he'll be pretty well lit by the time the video is over!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzz3T9jXJtw

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

"Let’s get one thing straight about the news that came down a few hours before the Jacksonville Jaguars’ season opener Sunday about offensive coordinator Press Taylor taking over play-calling duties on a full-time basis: this offense will still have coach Doug Pederson’s fingerprints all over it.

A new play-caller doesn’t necessarily mean a radical change in how the Jaguars will attack opponents, or that Pederson will take a hands-off approach in game-planning.

What’s happening here is Pederson hasn’t grown weary of play-calling. It’s more about having built this symbiotic relationship with Taylor — as Pederson sort of had with Reid while being on a much bigger leash — and now the teacher feels comfortable enough to give his protégé more responsibility without diminishing the Jaguars’ chances of winning games."

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/sport...841724007/

I'm sick of this conversation. It was common knowledge that Doug was the main play caller and mastermind of the offense in 2022. In 2023, Doug gave over the play calling in total to Press. Why Boselli is saying otherwise is him not remembering 2022 correctly. I'm so over this whole discussion. I'm honestly going to try and stop bringing this up. At the end of the day, this offense has been regressing since 2022. Nothing is getting better, and it's time for the entire coaching staff to go. I just find it weird that this whole thing is still a discussion.

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"Let’s get one thing straight about the news that came down a few hours before the Jacksonville Jaguars’ season opener Sunday about offensive coordinator Press Taylor taking over play-calling duties on a full-time basis: this offense will still have coach Doug Pederson’s fingerprints all over it.

A new play-caller doesn’t necessarily mean a radical change in how the Jaguars will attack opponents, or that Pederson will take a hands-off approach in game-planning.

What’s happening here is Pederson hasn’t grown weary of play-calling. It’s more about having built this symbiotic relationship with Taylor — as Pederson sort of had with Reid while being on a much bigger leash — and now the teacher feels comfortable enough to give his protégé more responsibility without diminishing the Jaguars’ chances of winning games."

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/sport...841724007/

I'm sick of this conversation.  It was common knowledge that Doug was the main play caller and mastermind of the offense in 2022.  In 2023, Doug gave over the play calling in total to Press.  Why Boselli is saying otherwise is him not remembering 2022 correctly.  I'm so over this whole discussion.  I'm honestly going to try and stop bringing this up.  At the end of the day, this offense has been regressing since 2022.  Nothing is getting better, and it's time for the entire coaching staff to go.  I just find it weird that this whole thing is still a discussion.

Lol, you won't be posting much then.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

https://twitter.com/HashTaguars/status/1...1007222043

Been saying it for over a year. This is just a snippet from the article but I can't read the full one on ESPN which is linked below:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_...fs-trouble

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"Let’s get one thing straight about the news that came down a few hours before the Jacksonville Jaguars’ season opener Sunday about offensive coordinator Press Taylor taking over play-calling duties on a full-time basis: this offense will still have coach Doug Pederson’s fingerprints all over it.

A new play-caller doesn’t necessarily mean a radical change in how the Jaguars will attack opponents, or that Pederson will take a hands-off approach in game-planning.

What’s happening here is Pederson hasn’t grown weary of play-calling. It’s more about having built this symbiotic relationship with Taylor — as Pederson sort of had with Reid while being on a much bigger leash — and now the teacher feels comfortable enough to give his protégé more responsibility without diminishing the Jaguars’ chances of winning games."

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/sport...841724007/

I'm sick of this conversation.  It was common knowledge that Doug was the main play caller and mastermind of the offense in 2022.  In 2023, Doug gave over the play calling in total to Press.  Why Boselli is saying otherwise is him not remembering 2022 correctly.  I'm so over this whole discussion.  I'm honestly going to try and stop bringing this up.  At the end of the day, this offense has been regressing since 2022.  Nothing is getting better, and it's time for the entire coaching staff to go.  I just find it weird that this whole thing is still a discussion.

Stop.

seriously, it's so tired. 

Press called second halves win 2022 and 2023 passing efficiency was nearly identical. 
Everyone and their mother has explained it to you. 
Let it go. 

You don't get to just say they lied about 2022 and carry on with your little whine-fest. It's "common knowledge" as you say that Press called lots of winning second halves in 2022. Trevor is on the Mic at the 2022 post game pressers saying "Press called this, Press called that..."  

Stop lying to yourself, you have an unhealthy obsession going on here.

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https://twitter.com/HashTaguars/status/1...1007222043

Been saying it for over a year. This is just a snippet from the article but I can't read the full one on ESPN which is linked below:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_...fs-trouble

They mixed in a bit of quick stuff last week compared to weeks 1-3.

I'd wager that trend continues, but the league mostly figure out Pederson's scheme. It's tired at this point.

Kirk still gets open on the deep cross and BTJ is special enough to beat the guy covering him frequently, so until they get Engram back, that's all they've got in the passing game. They need to get the run cooking and stick with it + utilize the screens and quick hitters about 20% more than they are now. 

The run game is tricky to figure out though because some of the successful runs are not by design and the more crucial drives are being often hindered by unsuccessful first down runs. Navigating how to utilize the good YPC is going to require some smart adjustments in the run calls IMO. Fingers crossed they are seeing that tape the same way I/we are.

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https://twitter.com/HashTaguars/status/1...1007222043

Been saying it for over a year. This is just a snippet from the article but I can't read the full one on ESPN which is linked below:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_...fs-trouble

They mixed in a bit of quick stuff last week compared to weeks 1-3.

I'd wager that trend continues, but the league mostly figure out Pederson's scheme. It's tired at this point.

Kirk still gets open on the deep cross and BTJ is special enough to beat the guy covering him frequently, so until they get Engram back, that's all they've got in the passing game. They need to get the run cooking and stick with it  + utilize the screens and quick hitters about 20% more than they are now. 

The run game is tricky to figure out though because some of the successful runs are not by design and the more crucial drives are being often hindered by unsuccessful first down runs. Navigating how to utilize the good YPC is going to require some smart adjustments in the run calls IMO. Fingers crossed they are seeing that tape the same way I/we are.

Lawrence is usually very good on those deep balls so the miss to Kirk stinks but it is what it is.

The offense definitely seemed better last Sunday and Lawrence typically does well against the clots so I hope it continues this Sunday.

My main issue here is the long term and I don't think Doug is that guy. I don't think he has what it takes with this team to lead them to the SB or maximize Lawrence.

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Is it oversimplifying it to say that Doug has a system that has been affirmed by a Super Bowl win and now he's gotten lazy with it thinking he doesn't need to scheme up too much for specific opponents or even keep opponents on their toes by regularly adding wrinkles? That he just needs guys to come in and run the "Super Bowl winning" scheme and it's completely on them to do so? I hate putting it in these terms not being in the building privy to anything. It's hardly ever one thing or one reason, but when searching for who to blame, the human psyche still needs to find that one person or reason.

Yeah and the twitter/x reaction to Trevor's deep misses this past week and some being "done with him". Cleatwood makes a very good point. Trevor has historically had VERY GOOD deep accuracy. This past Sunday wasn't a trend in that regard. September football can have weird outcomes, especially with a lot of new faces on both sides of the ball as we have. Hopefully they'll get their [BLEEP] together before the wheels come off if they haven't already.

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https://twitter.com/HashTaguars/status/1...1007222043

Been saying it for over a year. This is just a snippet from the article but I can't read the full one on ESPN which is linked below:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_...fs-trouble

They mixed in a bit of quick stuff last week compared to weeks 1-3.

I'd wager that trend continues, but the league mostly figure out Pederson's scheme. It's tired at this point.

Kirk still gets open on the deep cross and BTJ is special enough to beat the guy covering him frequently, so until they get Engram back, that's all they've got in the passing game. They need to get the run cooking and stick with it  + utilize the screens and quick hitters about 20% more than they are now. 

The run game is tricky to figure out though because some of the successful runs are not by design and the more crucial drives are being often hindered by unsuccessful first down runs. Navigating how to utilize the good YPC is going to require some smart adjustments in the run calls IMO. Fingers crossed they are seeing that tape the same way I/we are.

Yes. This is true. I was saying it after week one and week two. They were going to have to figure out a way to incorporate what worked in 22' and 23' and meld it into their new concepts in 24'.

The running game is spotty, but, it's been better than I expected. They called a good screen play to Etienne in Houston. I want to see a little bit more of that, but mixed up a bit personnel wise. 

Would like to see Strange in on one at home this Sunday. Especially with how quick the clots LB's play downfield. There's a big money play there to be had in my opinion if they can time it and see it coming on film. 

The short yardage running game was better on the road in BUF, despite the limited plays we saw, I felt earlier on they were doing good with the bigger formations and they were using the TE position more to help run WAM plays in the middle or at least seal the edges so backside pursuits could leak through.

It's a process. They were 2 or 3 big opportunities away in Houston from having everybody singing everybody's praises from the coaching staff down to the play caller. We're almost there I think.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Is it oversimplifying it to say that Doug has a system that has been affirmed by a Super Bowl win and now he's gotten lazy with it thinking he doesn't need to scheme up too much for specific opponents or even keep opponents on their toes by regularly adding wrinkles?  That he just needs guys to come in and run the "Super Bowl winning" scheme and it's completely on them to do so?  I hate putting it in these terms not being in the building privy to anything.  It's hardly ever one thing or one reason, but when searching for who to blame, the human psyche still needs to find that one person or reason.

Yeah and the twitter/x reaction to Trevor's deep misses this past week and some being "done with him".  Cleatwood makes a very good point.  Trevor has historically had VERY GOOD deep accuracy.  This past Sunday wasn't a trend in that regard.  September football can have weird outcomes, especially with a lot of new faces on both sides of the ball as we have.  Hopefully they'll get their [BLEEP] together before the wheels come off if they haven't already.

I don't necessarily think Doug has gotten lazy.

I think they had a great idea to enter this season with a revamped interior line that should have (on paper) allowed them to put TL under center more and run more play action. 

They did implement the increase in UC and PA plays, but... 

It has not had the effect hoped largely because the tackles gave ups tons of pressure in weeks one thru three and no one saw that wrinkle coming. Then of course, there were other aspects of poor offensive execution that had negative impact as well.

I do think the league has gotten more dialed in on Doug's playbook + Trevor's tendencies and that's hindering the passing game to an extent as well. 

The big question I have is how did they come into the September slate looking so woefully unprepared to execute the playbook offensively? 
And most importantly now, what are the staff doing to fix that and prepare a more diverse gameplan to adjust moving forward?

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https://twitter.com/HashTaguars/status/1...1007222043

Been saying it for over a year. This is just a snippet from the article but I can't read the full one on ESPN which is linked below:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_...fs-trouble

They still call some of those layup type plays but they miss a lot of them! 
Back when we had Bortles, it was understood that he had a lot of problems with timing and couldn't execute these "easy" play calls well.
But today we know that numbers 1, 13, and 16 at a minimum have done lots of timing, layup type plays, and they used to do them well. They're just not practicing them anymore, it seems.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

"Let’s get one thing straight about the news that came down a few hours before the Jacksonville Jaguars’ season opener Sunday about offensive coordinator Press Taylor taking over play-calling duties on a full-time basis: this offense will still have coach Doug Pederson’s fingerprints all over it.

A new play-caller doesn’t necessarily mean a radical change in how the Jaguars will attack opponents, or that Pederson will take a hands-off approach in game-planning.

What’s happening here is Pederson hasn’t grown weary of play-calling. It’s more about having built this symbiotic relationship with Taylor — as Pederson sort of had with Reid while being on a much bigger leash — and now the teacher feels comfortable enough to give his protégé more responsibility without diminishing the Jaguars’ chances of winning games."

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/sport...841724007/

I'm sick of this conversation.  It was common knowledge that Doug was the main play caller and mastermind of the offense in 2022.  In 2023, Doug gave over the play calling in total to Press.  Why Boselli is saying otherwise is him not remembering 2022 correctly.  I'm so over this whole discussion.  I'm honestly going to try and stop bringing this up.  At the end of the day, this offense has been regressing since 2022.  Nothing is getting better, and it's time for the entire coaching staff to go.  I just find it weird that this whole thing is still a discussion.

Lol, you won't be posting much then.

I'll figure something out...  Besides, of all people, I thought you'd be excited for my revelation.

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Lol, you won't be posting much then.

I'll figure something out...  Besides, of all people, I thought you'd be excited for my revelation.

I'm an evidence-based guy, so I'll believe it when I see it! 

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They mixed in a bit of quick stuff last week compared to weeks 1-3.

I'd wager that trend continues, but the league mostly figure out Pederson's scheme. It's tired at this point.

Kirk still gets open on the deep cross and BTJ is special enough to beat the guy covering him frequently, so until they get Engram back, that's all they've got in the passing game. They need to get the run cooking and stick with it  + utilize the screens and quick hitters about 20% more than they are now. 

The run game is tricky to figure out though because some of the successful runs are not by design and the more crucial drives are being often hindered by unsuccessful first down runs. Navigating how to utilize the good YPC is going to require some smart adjustments in the run calls IMO. Fingers crossed they are seeing that tape the same way I/we are.

Lawrence is usually very good on those deep balls so the miss to Kirk stinks but it is what it is.

The offense definitely seemed better last Sunday and Lawrence typically does well against the clots so I hope it continues this Sunday.

My main issue here is the long term and I don't think Doug is that guy. I don't think he has what it takes with this team to lead them to the SB or maximize Lawrence.

The flip side of that thought is that about 6 to 8 plays in 3 games are executed correctly and we're 3-1 thinking that the bills game was a fluke.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I'll figure something out...  Besides, of all people, I thought you'd be excited for my revelation.

I'm an evidence-based guy, so I'll believe it when I see it! 

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Lawrence is usually very good on those deep balls so the miss to Kirk stinks but it is what it is.

The offense definitely seemed better last Sunday and Lawrence typically does well against the clots so I hope it continues this Sunday.

My main issue here is the long term and I don't think Doug is that guy. I don't think he has what it takes with this team to lead them to the SB or maximize Lawrence.

The flip side of that thought is that about 6 to 8 plays in 3 games are executed correctly and we're 3-1 thinking that the bills game was a fluke.

This is something I've been thinking about. We've had all those breaks go against us so far this year (Etienne fumble, Safety against Cleveland) and they've hurt us enough and motivated the opposition and the games slipped away. Look at someone like the Chiefs. They've been pretty poor so far but with a few favourable calls they are 4-0. The league is so close standard wise, there aren't any real super teams and there aren't any awful 0-16 teams (no, we aren't THAT bad), it really feels an any given Sunday league right now.

I think of that Brady quote that games come down to 4-5 plays and the team that executes them usually gets the W and that's been our biggest achilies heel so far. We've not made those plays and we've let other teams make theirs.

The margin between a W and an L is so small now and we had found a way to get on the right side of those games but it's like we've forgotten again.

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I'm an evidence-based guy, so I'll believe it when I see it! 

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The flip side of that thought is that about 6 to 8 plays in 3 games are executed correctly and we're 3-1 thinking that the bills game was a fluke.

This is something I've been thinking about. We've had all those breaks go against us so far this year (Etienne fumble, Safety against Cleveland) and they've hurt us enough and motivated the opposition and the games slipped away. Look at someone like the Chiefs. They've been pretty poor so far but with a few favourable calls they are 4-0. The league is so close standard wise, there aren't any real super teams and there aren't any awful 0-16 teams (no, we aren't THAT bad), it really feels an any given Sunday league right now.

I think of that Brady quote that games come down to 4-5 plays and the team that executes them usually gets the W and that's been our biggest achilies heel so far. We've not made those plays and we've let other teams make theirs.

The margin between a W and an L is so small now and we had found a way to get on the right side of those games but it's like we've forgotten again.

Just trying to keep everyone honest here, but going back in a game and picking out certain plays that were negative and turning them positive is a useless exercise.  Look at the Texans game, if the Houston punt returner hadn't muffed that punt to begin the game you'd have to take 7 points off the board and give the Texans offense another drive to start the game.  According to your logic, the Jaguars would have been less "motivated" to win.

Overcoming adversity is a huge piece of the puzzle when constructing a winning NFL team.

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NYC4jags Wrote:
Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

This is something I've been thinking about. We've had all those breaks go against us so far this year (Etienne fumble, Safety against Cleveland) and they've hurt us enough and motivated the opposition and the games slipped away. Look at someone like the Chiefs. They've been pretty poor so far but with a few favourable calls they are 4-0. The league is so close standard wise, there aren't any real super teams and there aren't any awful 0-16 teams (no, we aren't THAT bad), it really feels an any given Sunday league right now.

I think of that Brady quote that games come down to 4-5 plays and the team that executes them usually gets the W and that's been our biggest achilies heel so far. We've not made those plays and we've let other teams make theirs.

The margin between a W and an L is so small now and we had found a way to get on the right side of those games but it's like we've forgotten again.

Just trying to keep everyone honest here, but going back in a game and picking out certain plays that were negative and turning them positive is a useless exercise.  Look at the Texans game, if the Houston punt returner hadn't muffed that punt to begin the game you'd have to take 7 points off the board and give the Texans offense another drive to start the game.  According to your logic, the Jaguars would have been less "motivated" to win.

Overcoming adversity is a huge piece of the puzzle when constructing a winning NFL team.

I've read your post 5 times now and genuinely don't understand what your point is. Are you saying the Miami game wouldn't have been different if Etienne scores a TD rather than fumble at the 1?

When I talk of motivation, I'm talking about the swings in momentum of a game that gives one team that belief, or motivation to go on and win it.

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https://twitter.com/jstcyrtv/status/1841...Ie5OPeqkhg

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Just trying to keep everyone honest here, but going back in a game and picking out certain plays that were negative and turning them positive is a useless exercise.  Look at the Texans game, if the Houston punt returner hadn't muffed that punt to begin the game you'd have to take 7 points off the board and give the Texans offense another drive to start the game.  According to your logic, the Jaguars would have been less "motivated" to win.

Overcoming adversity is a huge piece of the puzzle when constructing a winning NFL team.

I've read your post 5 times now and genuinely don't understand what your point is. Are you saying the Miami game wouldn't have been different if Etienne scores a TD rather than fumble at the 1?

When I talk of motivation, I'm talking about the swings in momentum of a game that gives one team that belief, or motivation to go on and win it.

If every Bills passing TD was instead a pick-six for the Jags you would have dominated them...  I'm pointing out that changing plays post-hoc is nonsense.

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NYC4jags Wrote:
Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

This is something I've been thinking about. We've had all those breaks go against us so far this year (Etienne fumble, Safety against Cleveland) and they've hurt us enough and motivated the opposition and the games slipped away. Look at someone like the Chiefs. They've been pretty poor so far but with a few favourable calls they are 4-0. The league is so close standard wise, there aren't any real super teams and there aren't any awful 0-16 teams (no, we aren't THAT bad), it really feels an any given Sunday league right now.

I think of that Brady quote that games come down to 4-5 plays and the team that executes them usually gets the W and that's been our biggest achilies heel so far. We've not made those plays and we've let other teams make theirs.

The margin between a W and an L is so small now and we had found a way to get on the right side of those games but it's like we've forgotten again.

Just trying to keep everyone honest here, but going back in a game and picking out certain plays that were negative and turning them positive is a useless exercise.  Look at the Texans game, if the Houston punt returner hadn't muffed that punt to begin the game you'd have to take 7 points off the board and give the Texans offense another drive to start the game.  According to your logic, the Jaguars would have been less "motivated" to win.

Overcoming adversity is a huge piece of the puzzle when constructing a winning NFL team.

Good coaching helps player become mentally tough.  No matter what anyone says, this is a 53 man roster.  Every team has high level players.  The teams that are consistently good are the ones with a coaching staff that knows how to get the best out of players and how to put the players they have in situations that give them the best chance to do what they do best.

It's a coaching league.  This isn't the NBA where just having good players run the court wins games.  You need coaches that can develop players and coaches that can use the players they have in the best way possible.

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