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Trevor Lawrence: Franchise QB (TL Discussion, Merged Threads)


Happy Birthday QB1 and man what a game. Lawrence was great and even when the D [BLEEP] the bed and let the clots back in he took us back down the field

Happy for Trevor. He's had a rough few weeks
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Lawrence’s best game as a pro. He found something today
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Trevor had 1 bad throw today. Had a great game. Let's see it again next week against the Bears.
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(This post was last modified: 10-06-2024, 06:25 PM by carp8dm. Edited 1 time in total.)

(10-06-2024, 06:14 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Trevor had 1 bad throw today.  Had a great game.  Let's see it again next week against the Bears.

I assume you're referring to the INT into triple coverage in the 3rd Quarter, right?

I'd love to see an All 22 or even a replay of that play.  I don't have DVR, so I'm just going by what I saw.  But it looked to me that besides BTJ running the crossing corner route towards the EZ, the other WRs all seemed to converge into the same area, making it impossible for Lawrence to throw it anywhere other than to BTJ.  

The throw was still bad.  I'm not saying it wasn't.  He probably should have thrown it much further towards the sideline where nobody but BTJ could catch it.  Instead, he tried to thread the needle.  So there is blame on Trevor.

But the play design was one in which there was only one receiver he could throw to.  The other WR routes looked like they all converged into the same place.  Maybe Lawrence should have looked off BTJ sooner?  I guess that could be as well.  But, like I said, from the one replay I saw for half a second, it looked poorly designed. 

I'm sure someone will analyze the play.  I look forward to being pointed out to being wrong.  But that's just my opinion from the first look I got today.
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(10-06-2024, 06:24 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(10-06-2024, 06:14 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Trevor had 1 bad throw today.  Had a great game.  Let's see it again next week against the Bears.

I assume you're referring to the INT into triple coverage in the 3rd Quarter, right?

I'd love to see an All 22 or even a replay of that play.  I don't have DVR, so I could just go by what I saw.  But it looked to me that besides BTJ running the crossing corner route towards the EZ, the other WRs all seemed to converge into the same area, making it impossible for Lawrence to throw it anywhere other than to BTJ.  

The throw was still bad.  I'm not saying it wasn't.  He probably should have thrown it much further towards the sideline where nobody but BTJ could catch it.  Instead, he tried to thread the needle.  So there is blame on Trevor.

But the play design was one in which there was only one receiver he could throw to.  The other WR routes looked like they all converged into the same place.  Maybe Lawrence should have looked off BTJ sooner?  I guess that could be as well.  But, like I said, from the one replay I saw for half a second, it looked poorly designed. 

I'm sure someone will analyze the play.  I look forward to being pointed out to being wrong.  But that's just my opinion from the first look I got today.
Ya think? Lol
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confidence builder, need it to keep going, totally ok with the BTJ interception... let TLAW gunsling. [BLEEP] them interceptions.
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(10-06-2024, 06:24 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(10-06-2024, 06:14 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Trevor had 1 bad throw today.  Had a great game.  Let's see it again next week against the Bears.

I assume you're referring to the INT into triple coverage in the 3rd Quarter, right?

I'd love to see an All 22 or even a replay of that play.  I don't have DVR, so I'm just going by what I saw.  But it looked to me that besides BTJ running the crossing corner route towards the EZ, the other WRs all seemed to converge into the same area, making it impossible for Lawrence to throw it anywhere other than to BTJ.  

The throw was still bad.  I'm not saying it wasn't.  He probably should have thrown it much further towards the sideline where nobody but BTJ could catch it.  Instead, he tried to thread the needle.  So there is blame on Trevor.

But the play design was one in which there was only one receiver he could throw to.  The other WR routes looked like they all converged into the same place.  Maybe Lawrence should have looked off BTJ sooner?  I guess that could be as well.  But, like I said, from the one replay I saw for half a second, it looked poorly designed. 

I'm sure someone will analyze the play.  I look forward to being pointed out to being wrong.  But that's just my opinion from the first look I got today.

28/34 for 371yds, 2 TD's and 1 INT and we're going to focus on the INT?

Cmon man.
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Where are all the Minshew fans?
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(10-06-2024, 06:29 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(10-06-2024, 06:24 PM)carp8dm Wrote: I assume you're referring to the INT into triple coverage in the 3rd Quarter, right?

I'd love to see an All 22 or even a replay of that play.  I don't have DVR, so I'm just going by what I saw.  But it looked to me that besides BTJ running the crossing corner route towards the EZ, the other WRs all seemed to converge into the same area, making it impossible for Lawrence to throw it anywhere other than to BTJ.  

The throw was still bad.  I'm not saying it wasn't.  He probably should have thrown it much further towards the sideline where nobody but BTJ could catch it.  Instead, he tried to thread the needle.  So there is blame on Trevor.

But the play design was one in which there was only one receiver he could throw to.  The other WR routes looked like they all converged into the same place.  Maybe Lawrence should have looked off BTJ sooner?  I guess that could be as well.  But, like I said, from the one replay I saw for half a second, it looked poorly designed. 

I'm sure someone will analyze the play.  I look forward to being pointed out to being wrong.  But that's just my opinion from the first look I got today.

28/34 for 371yds, 2 TD's and 1 INT and we're going to focus on the INT?

Cmon man.

Especially when he was doing exactly what we've all been pounding the table for... "Keep feeding BTJ!!!". That's exactly what he was trying to do on that INT.
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(This post was last modified: 10-06-2024, 06:37 PM by carp8dm.)

(10-06-2024, 06:29 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(10-06-2024, 06:24 PM)carp8dm Wrote: I assume you're referring to the INT into triple coverage in the 3rd Quarter, right?

I'd love to see an All 22 or even a replay of that play.  I don't have DVR, so I'm just going by what I saw.  But it looked to me that besides BTJ running the crossing corner route towards the EZ, the other WRs all seemed to converge into the same area, making it impossible for Lawrence to throw it anywhere other than to BTJ.  

The throw was still bad.  I'm not saying it wasn't.  He probably should have thrown it much further towards the sideline where nobody but BTJ could catch it.  Instead, he tried to thread the needle.  So there is blame on Trevor.

But the play design was one in which there was only one receiver he could throw to.  The other WR routes looked like they all converged into the same place.  Maybe Lawrence should have looked off BTJ sooner?  I guess that could be as well.  But, like I said, from the one replay I saw for half a second, it looked poorly designed. 

I'm sure someone will analyze the play.  I look forward to being pointed out to being wrong.  But that's just my opinion from the first look I got today.

28/34 for 371yds, 2 TD's and 1 INT and we're going to focus on the INT?

Cmon man.

Woah, woah, woah...

I'm not focusing on the INT.  I was responding to the guy that was.

(10-06-2024, 06:33 PM)Eric1 Wrote:
(10-06-2024, 06:29 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: 28/34 for 371yds, 2 TD's and 1 INT and we're going to focus on the INT?

Cmon man.

Especially when he was doing exactly what we've all been pounding the table for... "Keep feeding BTJ!!!". That's exactly what he was trying to do on that INT.

I totally agree.  Keep feeding BTJ! 

I'm just pointing out that the INT was the only play that would have worked.  In no way was I trying to throw shade on the play of our QB today.  I apologize if that's how it came off.  I was responding to the poster that was pointing out the INT.

(10-06-2024, 06:29 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Where are all the Minshew fans?

Bankrupt or pregnant with their 3rd kid in Las Vegas.
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(This post was last modified: 10-06-2024, 06:38 PM by Caldrac.)

He redeemed himself. Had two big misses in Houston last Sunday. Completely hit them today as a response.

We're onto London. These next two games are tough man. Don't sleep on the Bears. Don't sleep on the Patriots. Defensively they'll mix it up and get after our offense.

Need more of this Lawrence moving forward though.

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Literally showed maturity today on his 25th birthday.

Good stuff.

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(10-06-2024, 06:35 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(10-06-2024, 06:29 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: 28/34 for 371yds, 2 TD's and 1 INT and we're going to focus on the INT?

Cmon man.

Woah, woah, woah...

I'm not focusing on the INT.  I was responding to the guy that was.

(10-06-2024, 06:33 PM)Eric1 Wrote: Especially when he was doing exactly what we've all been pounding the table for... "Keep feeding BTJ!!!". That's exactly what he was trying to do on that INT.

I totally agree.  Keep feeding BTJ! 

I'm just pointing out that the INT was the only play that would have worked.  In no way was I trying to throw shade on the play of our QB today.  I apologize if that's how it came off.  I was responding to the poster that was pointing out the INT.

(10-06-2024, 06:29 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Where are all the Minshew fans?

Bankrupt or pregnant with their 3rd kid in Las Vegas.

Cool. No problem man

(10-06-2024, 06:33 PM)Eric1 Wrote:
(10-06-2024, 06:29 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: 28/34 for 371yds, 2 TD's and 1 INT and we're going to focus on the INT?

Cmon man.

Especially when he was doing exactly what we've all been pounding the table for... "Keep feeding BTJ!!!". That's exactly what he was trying to do on that INT.

Today felt like Trevor is fed up of the noise, the negative comments, just everything and just unleashed himself. He was fantastic. That's the Trevor we know he can be and has the talent to be. That's what we've been saying all this time. 

BTJ was a beast today. These 2 are going to be a problem for teams.

(10-06-2024, 06:29 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Where are all the Minshew fans?

Looooooool. Where indeed?
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(10-06-2024, 06:24 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(10-06-2024, 06:14 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Trevor had 1 bad throw today.  Had a great game.  Let's see it again next week against the Bears.

I assume you're referring to the INT into triple coverage in the 3rd Quarter, right?

I'd love to see an All 22 or even a replay of that play.  I don't have DVR, so I'm just going by what I saw.  But it looked to me that besides BTJ running the crossing corner route towards the EZ, the other WRs all seemed to converge into the same area, making it impossible for Lawrence to throw it anywhere other than to BTJ.  

The throw was still bad.  I'm not saying it wasn't.  He probably should have thrown it much further towards the sideline where nobody but BTJ could catch it.  Instead, he tried to thread the needle.  So there is blame on Trevor.

But the play design was one in which there was only one receiver he could throw to.  The other WR routes looked like they all converged into the same place.  Maybe Lawrence should have looked off BTJ sooner?  I guess that could be as well.  But, like I said, from the one replay I saw for half a second, it looked poorly designed. 

I'm sure someone will analyze the play.  I look forward to being pointed out to being wrong.  But that's just my opinion from the first look I got today.

IIRC, he had an open tight end underneath who even raised his shoulders wondering what happened. He’ll see it on film and hopefully get it corrected
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(10-06-2024, 06:40 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(10-06-2024, 06:35 PM)carp8dm Wrote: Woah, woah, woah...

I'm not focusing on the INT.  I was responding to the guy that was.


I totally agree.  Keep feeding BTJ! 

I'm just pointing out that the INT was the only play that would have worked.  In no way was I trying to throw shade on the play of our QB today.  I apologize if that's how it came off.  I was responding to the poster that was pointing out the INT.


Bankrupt or pregnant with their 3rd kid in Las Vegas.

Cool. No problem man

He wasn't fixating on the INT, he was fixating on the play design (just like always).
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(10-06-2024, 06:29 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Where are all the Minshew fans?

Silent today but I’m avoiding week to week swings here because that’s what the trolls do. 

It’s gonna be an up and down year only because in my opinion Doug and Taylor aren’t adapting quick enough. We own the colts, and I’d like to see a good game against a great defense in the bears to see if Trevor is truly out of his funk.
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(10-06-2024, 07:38 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(10-06-2024, 06:40 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: Cool. No problem man

He wasn't fixating on the INT, he was fixating on the play design (just like always).

Yeah it was my bad. I'd missed the post he was replying to.

Trevor balled out today.
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(10-06-2024, 07:38 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(10-06-2024, 06:40 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: Cool. No problem man

He wasn't fixating on the INT, he was fixating on the play design (just like always).

LOL.  Like I said, I saw the replay, and it looked like there was only 1 option to throw to.  The other recievers were converging onto the same area.

This is the only post all day I've mentioned play design or play calling.  But I just have to call it as I see it.  Just like how you harp on Baalke at any chance you get.
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(10-06-2024, 07:37 PM)SamusAranX Wrote:
(10-06-2024, 06:24 PM)carp8dm Wrote: I assume you're referring to the INT into triple coverage in the 3rd Quarter, right?

I'd love to see an All 22 or even a replay of that play.  I don't have DVR, so I'm just going by what I saw.  But it looked to me that besides BTJ running the crossing corner route towards the EZ, the other WRs all seemed to converge into the same area, making it impossible for Lawrence to throw it anywhere other than to BTJ.  

The throw was still bad.  I'm not saying it wasn't.  He probably should have thrown it much further towards the sideline where nobody but BTJ could catch it.  Instead, he tried to thread the needle.  So there is blame on Trevor.

But the play design was one in which there was only one receiver he could throw to.  The other WR routes looked like they all converged into the same place.  Maybe Lawrence should have looked off BTJ sooner?  I guess that could be as well.  But, like I said, from the one replay I saw for half a second, it looked poorly designed. 

I'm sure someone will analyze the play.  I look forward to being pointed out to being wrong.  But that's just my opinion from the first look I got today.

IIRC, he had an open tight end underneath who even raised his shoulders wondering what happened. He’ll see it on film and hopefully get it corrected
I forgot about that.  I think it was Davis he missed on 3rd down. Not a bad throw just bad vision
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Probably a top 5 game as a pro. Statistically may be his best but didnt have the same kind of pressure as other games where he came up big.

Now just need to see the consistency


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(10-06-2024, 08:02 PM)rfc17 Wrote: Probably a top 5 game as a pro. Statistically may be his best but didnt have the same kind of pressure as other games where he came up big.

Now just need to see the consistency

The O-Line looked great on pass protection all day.

I want to give credit to the offensive game plan/play calling early in the game.  They gave Lawrence easy first read throws on 1st and 2nd down all throughout the 1st half.  They got Trevor hot.  Instead of hiding Trevor, the game plan was to feature Trevor.  

The game plan today was really good.  They gotta do that moving forward.  Trevor is the franchise.  Give him the opportunity to be successful.
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