The mods just love to try and discredit me.  It's all good.  Johnson is clearly struggling this season.  Hopefully he improves. He's still young, and I shouldn't be so pessimistic about him.  And of course their hatred is off topic.

Getting back on Topic...

Ventrel Miller was drafted by Baalke...  Just like Johnson. There are dudes that think Baalke is trash.  I wonder if we should look at their prior blunders?  I always favor the players.  I'm happy Ventrel is getting his chance to shine.  Hopefully we can continue to develop the players we draft.

flsprtsgod pointed out how Johnson is still young and can develop.  I conceded that point.  I'm sure that flsprtsod trust that Baalke made the right pick.  Especially since it's clear that Miller was a great pick up.  Dude is balling!!!

Baalke makes some good picks, I've never denied that, and I also regularly tell you goofs to give these kids time to develop before you trash them (see Strange and Tank discussion from the last 12 months as an example). I also disagree with Baalke's fundamental process for building a team because he spends valuable capital on less valuable pieces. He's the guy who puts a fart can on his '02 Civic to make the 87hp hamster mobile sound like a muscle car when he had the money to buy a V8 Charger instead. When they took Bigsby that was the investment of a 1st, 3rd, 5th, and two 6th round picks into the running back position over three seasons while stuck with a line that's ineffective at run blocking. Does that make Bigsby a good or bad player? No, but he's a costly one; the value and opportunity cost are the issues. In the case of Miller I think the guy was taken to fit the old scheme and he'll have a low ceiling in the new one, that doesn't stop me from cheering for him when he's playing. 

Carp, you get way too emotional and hyperbolic over these players. You go so high and so low on them that you're constantly at war with yourself when they don't meet your expectations or when they outperform them. That's why you say stuff like "the O-line has played good all year" that's demonstrably untrue or when you continually harp on the play calling, you have to distort the past to buttress your current opinion. No one is trying to discredit you, they're trying to get you to see reality. It's not yet clear that Miller was a great pick, the guy's played like 5 games and only played really good in the tinhorns game. He's also injury prone and at 6 foot 220# just the size of a strong safety. He's definitely taking his opportunity and running with it, and I hope he keeps playing at this level, but if (when) he reverts to the mean you'll be going ape [BLEEP] about how he's not playing up to your standards.

Edit: just reflecting on this, Miller is also 25 years old. It's crazy to think that he's older than Trevor Lawrence but TLaw's been in the League 2 full seasons more than Miller. We really took a baby right out of the bassinet and threw him in the deep end of the pool,

Thank you. The bolded is real talk. 

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I'm excited about Miller's future. 

He's young enough to grow into a role in this scheme. Right now we just need to hope the better coordinators don't find a way to exploit him in coverage and/or that he develops quickly in that area. 

The same could be said for a number of  less experienced linebackers in the league, so it's not some heavy slight.
Just is what it is.

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1010XL gave Miller defensive player of the game yesterday. Another good good game for Miller

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1010XL gave Miller defensive player of the game yesterday.  Another good good game for Miller

I'm glad he's playing well, but he's really got no competition for that award.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

1010XL gave Miller defensive player of the game yesterday.  Another good good game for Miller

I'm glad he's playing well, but he's really got no competition for that award.

Josh Allen and Travon Walker are no competition for him?  Crazy you feel the first overall pick and a 30 mil a year DE is no competition for the 4th round pick making his 3rd start for defensive player of the week award lol.  With that said Walker won it last week.

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I'm glad he's playing well, but he's really got no competition for that award.

Josh Allen and Travon Walker are no competition for him?  Crazy you feel the first overall pick and a 30 mil a year DE is no competition for the 4th round pick making his 3rd start for defensive player of the week award lol.  With that said Walker won it last week.

Geez dude, take a reading comprehension class or something.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Josh Allen and Travon Walker are no competition for him?  Crazy you feel the first overall pick and a 30 mil a year DE is no competition for the 4th round pick making his 3rd start for defensive player of the week award lol.  With that said Walker won it last week.

Geez dude, take a reading comprehension class or something.

You said he has no competition for the award, it wasn't hard to understand.  That's saying something when you have a 1st overall pick and a 30 mil a year DE

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Geez dude, take a reading comprehension class or something.

You said he has no competition for the award, it wasn't hard to understand.  That's saying something when you have a 1st overall pick and a 30 mil a year DE

How did they do yesterday?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

You said he has no competition for the award, it wasn't hard to understand.  That's saying something when you have a 1st overall pick and a 30 mil a year DE

How did they do yesterday?

That's my point, no competition for that award from a guy you call a back up role player is sad when you have those guys on your roster.

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How did they do yesterday?

That's my point, no competition for that award from a guy you call a back up role player is sad when you have those guys on your roster.

Gee, it would've been nice if he DID have competition for that award yesterday, hmmm?

Or are you gonna keep digging?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I'm glad he's playing well, but he's really got no competition for that award.

Josh Allen and Travon Walker are no competition for him?  Crazy you feel the first overall pick and a 30 mil a year DE is no competition for the 4th round pick making his 3rd start for defensive player of the week award lol.  With that said Walker won it last week.

So I take it you don't have NFLN, cuz you certainly didn't watch the game if you thought they were in the running after Sunday.

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Josh Allen and Travon Walker are no competition for him?  Crazy you feel the first overall pick and a 30 mil a year DE is no competition for the 4th round pick making his 3rd start for defensive player of the week award lol.  With that said Walker won it last week.

So I take it you don't have NFLN, cuz you certainly didn't watch the game if you thought they were in the running after Sunday.

He did but he didn't. Well, until he didn't but he did.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Josh Allen and Travon Walker are no competition for him?  Crazy you feel the first overall pick and a 30 mil a year DE is no competition for the 4th round pick making his 3rd start for defensive player of the week award lol.  With that said Walker won it last week.

So I take it you don't have NFLN, cuz you certainly didn't watch the game if you thought they were in the running after Sunday.

Huh?  I agree with Miller winning the award.  He's been one of the few bright spots over the last 3 games.

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So I take it you don't have NFLN, cuz you certainly didn't watch the game if you thought they were in the running after Sunday.

Huh?  I agree with Miller winning the award.  He's been one of the few bright spots over the last 3 games.

Lol. Bruh, we agree too! Because no one else was worthy of it yesterday he ran unopposed.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

He has an international drive to make plays which is the biggest thing that is lacking on this team.

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Respect the game.  Play with a sense of urgency. 


1.)  Take care of the ball.  Win the turnover battle.

2.)  It's all about 3rd down.  Win on 3rd down to win the game.

3.) Playmakers make plays.  The only reason that you put your uniform on is to make plays. In order to EARN your paycheck, you must make plays.  

Learn from the great collapse of 2023.  

He has an international drive to make plays which is the biggest thing that is lacking on this team.

Well yeah, they're in London right now.

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He has an international drive to make plays which is the biggest thing that is lacking on this team.

Well yeah, they're in London right now.

He does enjoy a good cuppa tea

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https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/1848819203102412876

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https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...7722032636

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https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...7722032636

These 2 guys flying around would be an excellent combination together for the jags defense. .

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I think we all agree that Devon Lloyd is a drag on this team and needs to be rushing the passer or sitting out.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato