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***Official Gameday Jags vs Packers Thread***


(10-27-2024, 04:30 PM)Jag88 Wrote: As well as Lawrence played, that fumble he had was huge this game. No room for error

He put us in a bad position but we also wouldn't have had a chance without him. He was a double edged sword today.

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(10-27-2024, 04:30 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(10-27-2024, 04:23 PM)enigma Wrote: I mean the defense repeatedly stopped the Packers from scoring 7 on NUMEROUS drives while we couldn't muster a 1st down.

Let alone, the Jarrian Jones interception - just for Trev to gift it right back for the Packers inside our 20...

We give the D a pass for them not doing their job. They are supposed to stop teams scoring and we let it go when they make a mistake.

But the O is expected to be perfect and gets blamed when it makes mistakes.

D's shouldn't be giving up 30+ every game.

Nobody (at least me) is giving the D a pass. They gave it up at the very end.

But it's asinine to think that directly gifting the Packers PHENOMENAL field position and 14 straight points in 1 minute and 15 seconds is completely okay. That's not on the defense, lets be real.

Trev got paid the big bucks, so criticism will duly be placed on him when it is absolutely deserved.



(10-27-2024, 04:37 PM)enigma Wrote:
(10-27-2024, 04:30 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: We give the D a pass for them not doing their job. They are supposed to stop teams scoring and we let it go when they make a mistake.

But the O is expected to be perfect and gets blamed when it makes mistakes.

D's shouldn't be giving up 30+ every game.

Nobody (at least me) is giving the D a pass. They gave it up at the very end.

But it's asinine to think that directly gifting the Packers PHENOMENAL field position and 14 straight points in 1 minute and 15 seconds is completely okay. That's not on the defense, lets be real.

Trev got paid the big bucks, so criticism will duly be placed on him when it is absolutely deserved.

He could have dropped down and lived to see another down. He gets caught trying to do too much sometimes on the sack fumbles


Doug sounds utterly defeated.


(10-27-2024, 04:35 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(10-27-2024, 04:33 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: Did you expect any different bud?

We lost so you know who'll get the blame
He had some bad turnovers. No one is denying that.

But he put the Jags up 17-13 and then the defense proceeded to let Malik Willis march right down the field. 

Like what are we doing here? Davis Kirk and BTJ all go down and he still drives down the field for a TD. Then what does the D do? Let Jayden Reed free on a play LaFleur and the Kubiak system are known for. 

This loss is on the defense.

Couldn't agree more. The O started really bad but they dragged us back into this twice. We just needed the D to do it's job on that last drive. Make them earn it but we leave one of their best WR's open by 10 yards. Even Willis can make that throw and that's game.

You can point out mistakes the O made but they also had plays that pulled us out of holes. We just needed one stand.

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(10-27-2024, 04:37 PM)Jag88 Wrote:
(10-27-2024, 04:35 PM)carp8dm Wrote: It's just piss poor coaching.  This team proves that they have talent all over the field.  But they just aren't put in the best positions, they are not prepped to start games strong.  They are not taught discipline to not false start.  They have no passion because the coaches have no consistent message.

We are wasting Trevor Lawrence is a inept, lazy, good for nothing HC that isn't good enough to actually lead an NFL team for more than 1 or 2 years. 

Great game by all the players.  They played their hearts out and did everything they could do based on how the coaches are coaching them.  I didn't think we'd win this game.  But it was good to see how much potential this team has.

Does Nielsen not have any assistant coaches who could help him right the ship on defense?

I have no idea what's the deal with the Defense.  Their Jekyll and Hyde.  But let's face it, the whole defense is discombobulated.  They don't work together as one unit.  The D Line isn't aware of what the Linemen are doing.  The Linemen don't seem to know what the secondary is doing.  

And the DC is putting them all in the wrong places way more than he's figuring out how to make the entire unit successful.  It's just a mess all around.

The positive is that we have so much talent on the D-Line and Linebackers, and we get spotty help in the secondary that the Defensive players are performing IN SPITE of the coaches.

The players are out performing the game plan.  We got players on D.  

I still have hope for this team.  We don't have to blow it all up.  We just need the correct HC that is willing to take the time and energy to pull this entire group of players together to play like a team.


(10-27-2024, 04:37 PM)enigma Wrote:
(10-27-2024, 04:30 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: We give the D a pass for them not doing their job. They are supposed to stop teams scoring and we let it go when they make a mistake.

But the O is expected to be perfect and gets blamed when it makes mistakes.

D's shouldn't be giving up 30+ every game.

Nobody (at least me) is giving the D a pass. They gave it up at the very end.

But it's asinine to think that directly gifting the Packers PHENOMENAL field position and 14 straight points in 1 minute and 15 seconds is completely okay. That's not on the defense, lets be real.

Trev got paid the big bucks, so criticism will duly be placed on him when it is absolutely deserved.

Yes he made 2 mistakes, every QB does. He did more than enough to make up for them.

This ones on the Defense man. They blew it badly.


I can't wait for the special teams delay of game rule on defence to be enforced league wide












Anyways next joke


The entire NFL average scoring per week up to Thursday's game is 22.4 points per game.

The Jags have allowed 30+ points 4 times. Even if you want to say the fumble was on Trevor that is still 23 points and below average. Only the Panthers have more games allowing 30 or more.

Even the Dolphins and the Browns netted their high points mark this season up to week 7 versus the Jags.

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(This post was last modified: 10-27-2024, 04:45 PM by Jaguar Warrior. Edited 2 times in total.)

Defense gave up 30 to a hobbled Love and Malik [BLEEP] Willis. To even think this is on Trevor is laughable.

They let Malik Willis get a 4th quarter winning drive. MALIK WILLIS. YIKES!


(10-27-2024, 04:37 PM)enigma Wrote:
(10-27-2024, 04:30 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: We give the D a pass for them not doing their job. They are supposed to stop teams scoring and we let it go when they make a mistake.

But the O is expected to be perfect and gets blamed when it makes mistakes.

D's shouldn't be giving up 30+ every game.

Nobody (at least me) is giving the D a pass. They gave it up at the very end.

But it's asinine to think that directly gifting the Packers PHENOMENAL field position and 14 straight points in 1 minute and 15 seconds is completely okay. That's not on the defense, lets be real.

Trev got paid the big bucks, so criticism will duly be placed on him when it is absolutely deserved.

I get you. I'm not saying the turnovers didn't hurt but the O also made plays that bought us back into the game.

The D so rarely does. The best we hope for is a stop. Turnovers are so rare, but the amount of blown coverages, missed tackles, penalties, horrible calls are hurting us way more than the 2 turnovers did.


(10-27-2024, 04:43 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: The entire NFL average scoring per week up to Thursday's game is 22.4 points per game.

The Jags have allowed 30+ points 4 times. Even if you want to say the fumble was on Trevor that is still 23 points and below average. Only the Panthers have more games allowing 30 or more.

Even the Dolphins and the Browns netted their high points mark this season up to week 7 versus the Jags.

And that stat doesn't tell the whole story of how those games transpired.

I distinctly remember the offense sputtering in at least 3 of those games where our defense had multiple stops and finally "gave in".



(10-27-2024, 04:41 PM)Jaguar Warrior Wrote: Doug sounds utterly defeated.

I'd be too if BTJ got hurt. What the heck we going to watch when he out? Tim Jones ? Who? TIM JONES? WHOOOO ?? TIMMMM JONNNNNES! 

281 330 8004 style!

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Sucks. This sucks . That sucks


(10-27-2024, 04:45 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote:
(10-27-2024, 04:41 PM)Jaguar Warrior Wrote: Doug sounds utterly defeated.

I'd be too if BTJ got hurt. What the heck we going to watch when he out? Tim Jones ? Who? TIM JONES? WHOOOO ?? TIMMMM JONNNNNES! 

281 330 8004 style!

I feel like BTJ will be back next week. Most likely a brused rib. Kirk on the other hand may be out for a bit.


(10-27-2024, 04:41 PM)Jaguar Warrior Wrote: Doug sounds utterly defeated.

That's cuz he was


(10-27-2024, 04:45 PM)enigma Wrote:
(10-27-2024, 04:43 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: The entire NFL average scoring per week up to Thursday's game is 22.4 points per game.

The Jags have allowed 30+ points 4 times. Even if you want to say the fumble was on Trevor that is still 23 points and below average. Only the Panthers have more games allowing 30 or more.

Even the Dolphins and the Browns netted their high points mark this season up to week 7 versus the Jags.

And that stat doesn't tell the whole story of how those games transpired.

I distinctly remember the offense sputtering in at least 3 of those games where our defense had multiple stops and finally "gave in".
You remember incorrectly.

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(10-27-2024, 04:53 PM)PV=nRT Wrote:
(10-27-2024, 04:45 PM)enigma Wrote: And that stat doesn't tell the whole story of how those games transpired.

I distinctly remember the offense sputtering in at least 3 of those games where our defense had multiple stops and finally "gave in".
You remember incorrectly.

Must be the ideal gas law getting to you.



(10-27-2024, 04:51 PM)Thewitnessofsolinvictus Wrote:
(10-27-2024, 04:41 PM)Jaguar Warrior Wrote: Doug sounds utterly defeated.

That's cuz he was

We have been out coached every week.  

Even the Patriots game, it wasn't coaching that won that game.  It was the talent on the field.  The patriots came out and got 10 on us before we woke up. 

It's been the same thing since Doug became coach.  Just poorly prepared.  But in 2022, at least we made adjustments in the 2nd half.  For the last 2 seasons, we are just incompetent in our coaching.  It's so obvious.

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(10-27-2024, 04:41 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(10-27-2024, 04:35 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: He had some bad turnovers. No one is denying that.

But he put the Jags up 17-13 and then the defense proceeded to let Malik Willis march right down the field. 

Like what are we doing here? Davis Kirk and BTJ all go down and he still drives down the field for a TD. Then what does the D do? Let Jayden Reed free on a play LaFleur and the Kubiak system are known for. 

This loss is on the defense.

Couldn't agree more. The O started really bad but they dragged us back into this twice. We just needed the D to do it's job on that last drive. Make them earn it but we leave one of their best WR's open by 10 yards. Even Willis can make that throw and that's game.

You can point out mistakes the O made but they also had plays that pulled us out of holes. We just needed one stand.
They got 3 stands consecutively. What happened?

(10-27-2024, 04:56 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(10-27-2024, 04:51 PM)Thewitnessofsolinvictus Wrote: That's cuz he was

We have been out coached every week.  

Even the Patriots game, it wasn't coaching that won that game.  It was the talent on the field.  The patriots came out and got 10 on us before we woke up. 

It's been the same thing since Doug became coach.  Just poorly prepared.  But in 2022, at least we made adjustments in the 2nd half.  For the last 2 seasons, we are just incompetent in our coaching.  It's so obvious.

Ooh, that's a bingo




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