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Why did ammendment 3 and 4 need 60%

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Both had a majority vote of more than 55% as of me writing this.  Its a bit annoying these hoth had to have 60% or more to pass.  Why?

As of now I am of the understanding that neither will pass.
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State constitution requires 60% to pass any new amendment
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#3

Glad to see 4 didn't pass..

3 didn't bother me at all. I have my medical card.
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I voted yes on 3 but I’m not surprised it didn’t pass lots of my family voted no they don’t want recreational marijuana in our state.

I don’t use it so I’ve got no skin in the game but the libertarian in me wants to decriminalize everything
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(11-06-2024, 12:58 AM)EricC85 Wrote: I voted yes on 3 but I’m not surprised it didn’t pass lots of my family voted no they don’t want recreational marijuana in our state.

I don’t use it so I’ve got no skin in the game but the libertarian in me wants to decriminalize everything

3 was a decent idea, but very poorly written..
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3 was written by the big marijuana corporations to ensure themselves a monopoly.
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I voted against it for that reason alone.
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(11-06-2024, 01:43 AM)copycat Wrote: 3 was written by the big marijuana corporations to ensure themselves a monopoly.

Bingo
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(11-06-2024, 12:40 AM)surfon Wrote: Both had a majority vote of more than 55% as of me writing this.  Its a bit annoying these hoth had to have 60% or more to pass.  Why?

As of now I am of the understanding that neither will pass.
(11-06-2024, 12:42 AM)EricC85 Wrote: State constitution requires 60% to pass any new amendment
As EricC85 said, the rule exists to make it hard to change the state constitution. Similar rules exist at the federal level and other states. It keeps a small majority from being able to change it and also keeps it from adding/removing things all the time.

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Similar to the filibuster in congress
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#11

I voted against 3 for two reasons. The main one being this would open up the door for people to be smoking it everywhere, not to mention the raft of new laws that would have to be enacted to control that.

The second was a lesson learned from Colorado which had to deal with a myriad of problems resulting from legalization.

If someone wants to ingest marijuana, smoking or otherwise, there’s plenty of legal avenues to acquire it.
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(11-06-2024, 01:43 AM)copycat Wrote: 3 was written by the big marijuana corporations to ensure themselves a monopoly.

That's not true but whatever.
You were hunting for a reason to say no and they gave you one...
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(This post was last modified: 11-06-2024, 09:24 AM by Jag88. Edited 2 times in total.)

So it’s all about the medical marijuana.

(11-06-2024, 07:51 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-06-2024, 01:43 AM)copycat Wrote: 3 was written by the big marijuana corporations to ensure themselves a monopoly.

That's not true but whatever.
You were hunting for a reason to say no and they gave you one...

Trump was for it from what I read, but I think desantis helped defeat 3. I think it’s trending toward legalization in Florida eventually but not this time.
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Both were poorly written laws with major loop holes. Whether they were written that way on purpose really doesn't matter at this time. Poorly written amendments should be voted down.
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(11-06-2024, 07:51 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-06-2024, 01:43 AM)copycat Wrote: 3 was written by the big marijuana corporations to ensure themselves a monopoly.

That's not true but whatever.
You were hunting for a reason to say no and they gave you one...

It’s 100% true.  Under that bill could you grow a plant for personal use?  Would you be able to apply for permits, grow, harvest and sell your product?
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(11-06-2024, 11:34 AM)copycat Wrote:
(11-06-2024, 07:51 AM)mikesez Wrote: That's not true but whatever.
You were hunting for a reason to say no and they gave you one...

It’s 100% true.  Under that bill could you grow a plant for personal use?  Would you be able to apply for permits, grow, harvest and sell your product?

Those questions were deferred to the legislature.
Civics!
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#17

The medical card quack doctors are celebrating big time today. Their cash cow remains. So if you want to partake and not be a criminal you have to go lie to a thieving quack doctor about a non existent illness and then pay the thief. Then pay the state an application fee which is a illegal tax in essence. Complete and total bull [BLEEP].
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(11-06-2024, 02:45 PM)Jagwired Wrote: The medical card quack doctors are celebrating big time today. Their cash cow remains. So if you want to partake and not be a criminal you have to go lie to a thieving quack doctor about a non existent illness and then pay the thief. Then pay the state an application fee which is a illegal tax in essence. Complete and total bull [BLEEP].

I cant agree more..
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(11-06-2024, 11:34 AM)copycat Wrote:
(11-06-2024, 07:51 AM)mikesez Wrote: That's not true but whatever.
You were hunting for a reason to say no and they gave you one...

It’s 100% true.  Under that bill could you grow a plant for personal use?  Would you be able to apply for permits, grow, harvest and sell your product?

Mikesez logic: As long as you paid all the fees to open your own business, testing, etc. Sure you could technically grow it for your own personal use.

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(11-06-2024, 05:20 PM)p_rushing Wrote:
(11-06-2024, 11:34 AM)copycat Wrote: It’s 100% true.  Under that bill could you grow a plant for personal use?  Would you be able to apply for permits, grow, harvest and sell your product?

Mikesez logic: As long as you paid all the fees to open your own business, testing, etc. Sure you could technically grow it for your own personal use.

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Every retail business has a business license they pay the state for, and a city or county license for each location that they pay the locality for.  Whatever fees or licenses they were going to make specific to recreational pot, would be up to the Legislature.  No amendment can save you from having to vote for the right people to uphold it. That is true generally.
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